i just want to know what is in that kids fucking arizona ice tea.
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
Majin wrote:
The thing this video is good for is to show people how NOT to train for bodybuilding. That kid is lifting with his ‘nerves’ instead of his muscles.
Shit like this needs to stop. What the fuck is wrong with training the CNS anyway? So you don’t get as much hypertrophy? Bodybuilding is not the only reason people lift weights. There is a sport called weightlifting and a sport called powerlifting where athletes compete against athletes in the same weight class (their competitors bodyweight is roughly the same as theirs). You know what the kicker is? The only thing that matters in these competitions is that the athlete execute a legal lift. There’s no physique judging portion of the meet! I know, right? WTF? It’s hardly a real sport![/quote]
It’s a bodybuilding site, he was performing a bodybuilding exercise and doing 10 reps. I never said anything about it being wrong to train the CNS but that it’s a good example of how NOT to train for bodybuilding. That’s all.
100sX16 at 151lbs, this looks real, that other kid, totaly fake.
[quote]Scrotus wrote:
100sX16 at 151lbs, this looks real, that other kid, totaly fake.[/quote]
It does look more real (though he does pick them up pretty easily, maybe I am just nitpicking), but don’t most gyms have plate loaded dumbells that got that high? It would be near impossible to fake it then.
yea when you look at other ones that kids lift looks fake as hell
remember that this kid had to work his way up to 100lb dumbbells. it does not make any sense that you can agree he can bench the 100lb fairly easily but then discredit it because he can also put them away very easily. if this kid has the neural strength to bench them you must assume he also has the neural strength to put them away. so far any argument to legitmately disprove this kid isnt cutting it. there is nothing that screams fake so why is it so hard to believe? theres lots of crazier things out there. i cant believe how obessive some of you have gotten over this either. …yea the gym purposely mislabels their dumbbells so that the customer feels stronger…wow.
Why 100 lbs for higher reps? It would be more impressive to see them lifting 120s, which nearly every gym I have been to has.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
remember that this kid had to work his way up to 100lb dumbbells. it does not make any sense that you can agree he can bench the 100lb fairly easily but then discredit it because he can also put them away very easily. if this kid has the neural strength to bench them you must assume he also has the neural strength to put them away. so far any argument to legitmately disprove this kid isnt cutting it. there is nothing that screams fake so why is it so hard to believe? theres lots of crazier things out there. i cant believe how obessive some of you have gotten over this either. …yea the gym purposely mislabels their dumbbells so that the customer feels stronger…wow.
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your post makes no sense and that’s not an attack. if you’re pressed with bells x and over, you’d understand the arguments. if not, you will say something like you’ve posted above. if its legit, of course he has neural efficiencies; however, that has nothing to do with the physics of the video that just aren’t right. go home tonite, lay two 100 lb bells on your chest and sit up. better yet, max out more than your bwt. and then casually rerack them. you’re missing the salient points.
Not sure if this one’s real or not…but who fucking cares?
Sorry if you feel that I come off as cocky, I’m just amazed at some of the statements in this thread.
The people here saying that it isn’t physically possible for him to get up with the dumbells after those sets are exactly the ones that need some education in physics.
In short, he’s mastered a technique to let the momentum of the dumbells help him get up. If you can’t see that from watching the videos then you don’t understand, nor can envision, the physics involved.
I bet you are probably not using the same technique as him in returning the weights because of one or more of these reasons:
you’ve never had to because the dumbells you use are not that heawy compared to your bodyweight
you go to failure and are not able to get the dumbbells into a position so that you can use their momentum to get up
you simply decide to drop the dumbells on the floor
[quote]Egilll wrote:
Sorry if you feel that I come off as cocky, I’m just amazed at some of the statements in this thread.
The people here saying that it isn’t physically possible for him to get up with the dumbells after those sets are exactly the ones that need some education in physics.
In short, he’s mastered a technique to let the momentum of the dumbells help him get up. If you can’t see that from watching the videos then you don’t understand, nor can envision, the physics involved.
I bet you are probably not using the same technique as him in returning the weights because of one or more of these reasons:
you’ve never had to because the dumbells you use are not that heawy compared to your bodyweight
you go to failure and are not able to get the dumbbells into a position so that you can use their momentum to get up
you simply decide to drop the dumbells on the floor[/quote]
LOL. Putting them on your knees from the laying position is allowing momentum to help you up by allowing you to put force forward (towards your knees). Putting them on your chest is not. That is WHY most of us put them on our knees to both kick them into position and to let them down assuming failure has been reached.
I’ve seen these done with people about his size at my gym.
It’s real.
I don’t see what is so incredible about this.
Alot of my friends don’t even lift regularly and they could do that.
Looks fake for many of the reasons listed but who the hell knows for sure but him. It is doable for a skinny guy but it just looks off.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
remember that this kid had to work his way up to 100lb dumbbells. it does not make any sense that you can agree he can bench the 100lb fairly easily but then discredit it because he can also put them away very easily. if this kid has the neural strength to bench them you must assume he also has the neural strength to put them away. so far any argument to legitmately disprove this kid isnt cutting it. there is nothing that screams fake so why is it so hard to believe? theres lots of crazier things out there. i cant believe how obessive some of you have gotten over this either. …yea the gym purposely mislabels their dumbbells so that the customer feels stronger…wow.
your post makes no sense and that’s not an attack. if you’re pressed with bells x and over, you’d understand the arguments. if not, you will say something like you’ve posted above. if its legit, of course he has neural efficiencies; however, that has nothing to do with the physics of the video that just aren’t right. go home tonite, lay two 100 lb bells on your chest and sit up. better yet, max out more than your bwt. and then casually rerack them. you’re missing the salient points.
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i cant use 100lb dumbbells, but thats also not my main focus in lifting, as it is his. when i use dumbbells i do the same thing as this kid,i lean back with the weights and when im done i move them over and slide them down simoteaneously as i sit up so that it will pull me forward, its pretty easy. i guess you arent aware of this thing called gravity and momentum.
im not missing anything, this doesnt look all that farfetched. what i see is a bunch of guys who cant comprehend that some people get strong really easily and remain light while doing so. i still think its hilarious the majority are going with the argument that either the gym purposely mislabels weights or that this kid goes to a gym with his own novelty DBs so that he can make a bunch of people on the internet think hes really strong. lol. you guys know how rediculous that sounds?
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
remember that this kid had to work his way up to 100lb dumbbells. it does not make any sense that you can agree he can bench the 100lb fairly easily but then discredit it because he can also put them away very easily. if this kid has the neural strength to bench them you must assume he also has the neural strength to put them away. so far any argument to legitmately disprove this kid isnt cutting it. there is nothing that screams fake so why is it so hard to believe? theres lots of crazier things out there. i cant believe how obessive some of you have gotten over this either. …yea the gym purposely mislabels their dumbbells so that the customer feels stronger…wow.
your post makes no sense and that’s not an attack. if you’re pressed with bells x and over, you’d understand the arguments. if not, you will say something like you’ve posted above. if its legit, of course he has neural efficiencies; however, that has nothing to do with the physics of the video that just aren’t right. go home tonite, lay two 100 lb bells on your chest and sit up. better yet, max out more than your bwt. and then casually rerack them. you’re missing the salient points.
i cant use 100lb dumbbells, but thats also not my main focus in lifting, as it is his. when i use dumbbells i do the same thing as this kid,i lean back with the weights and when im done i move them over and slide them down simoteaneously as i sit up so that it will pull me forward, its pretty easy. i guess you arent aware of this thing called gravity and momentum.
im not missing anything, this doesnt look all that farfetched. what i see is a bunch of guys who cant comprehend that some people get strong really easily and remain light while doing so. i still think its hilarious the majority are going with the argument that either the gym purposely mislabels weights or that this kid goes to a gym with his own novelty DBs so that he can make a bunch of people on the internet think hes really strong. lol. you guys know how rediculous that sounds?
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The “Q” gym in Houston, Tx (now bankrupt from what I understand and bought out by either 24 Hour Fitness or someone else) used weights that were mislabeled. They also had a rule that no one could wear tank tops because it offended people who were more out of shape.
I was only a teenager in high school at the time on my way to college and I figured it out. There might have only been a 10-20lbs difference in the weights past 50lbs but it was still noticeable. I could lift more at that gym than anywhere else I lifted…which is also why I quit training there.
They were like Planet Fitness long before that idea actually took off.
So I’ve been following this thread…
In my school gym there are 2 types of dumbbells-old school plate loaded ones and Iron Grips like in the video. Iron grips of the ‘same weight’ are CONSIDERABLY less challenging.
Very, very strange.
Anytime I use DB’s that are just blocks instead of the individual plates, it always seem easier.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
lol. you guys know how rediculous that sounds?
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Not nearly as ridiculous as you sound in 95% of your posts.
If you can’t do 100 lb dumbells, you need to get off the internet and spend that time, just practicing that technique.
The fact everyone is tripping over this video, is a pretty sad state of affairs of the lifts of posters on this board.
He could get a scale. Weigh himself, then hold the dumbells. If it’s all one continuous shot, and the weight reading goes up accordingly, this would have more validity. It’s not like it would be hard to do either. So if this is true, I’d like to see him do this.