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I knew he was strong, but at his size with his wingspan this is really impressive.
I’d be willing to bet a lot of professional athletes can bench 380-400.
That type of lift with that wingspan is big!
I wonder if he always works out in his uniform!
Also - I heard Tiger Woods can get up 315 - not bad for a golfer!
[quote]ungs9 wrote:
I’d be willing to bet a lot of professional athletes can bench 380-400. [/quote]
Alot of pros who are 7ft tall with a 7&1/2 foot wingspan? I’d be willing to bet you’re wrong.
The NBA pre-draft combine results are out:
They use 185 pounds for the bench press. A couple of the guys only did 2 reps. The highest was 26.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
ungs9 wrote:
I’d be willing to bet a lot of professional athletes can bench 380-400.
Alot of pros who are 7ft tall with a 7&1/2 foot wingspan? I’d be willing to bet you’re wrong.[/quote]
I agree. This isn’t very common among basketball players. The only other guy I heard about in the NBA was Kevin Willis. They said he could bench 400, but he was also known for having shorter arms for his height.
[quote]kcushijima wrote:
The NBA pre-draft combine results are out:
They use 185 pounds for the bench press. A couple of the guys only did 2 reps. The highest was 26.
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Did anyone see the bodyfat measurements? I saw a whole lot of 4s and 3s in there. Something isn’t right. 3.0% BF?
[quote]doubleh wrote:
kcushijima wrote:
The NBA pre-draft combine results are out:
They use 185 pounds for the bench press. A couple of the guys only did 2 reps. The highest was 26.
Did anyone see the bodyfat measurements? I saw a whole lot of 4s and 3s in there. Something isn’t right. 3.0% BF?[/quote]
I don’t find that hard to believe. These are young atheletes with high activity levels. Many of them are rail thin to begin with and are probably undereating as well.
In that video the trainer was talking about the importance of not hyperextending your lower back when bench pressing. Is this just because for their training purposes, basketball players don’t need to or is there some harm that can come to someone by having a large back arch? It seems that power lifters have some pretty crazy back archs when the bench press so i was just wondering what was up with this.
[quote]OlympicLifter wrote:
In that video the trainer was talking about the importance of not hyperextending your lower back when bench pressing. Is this just because for their training purposes, basketball players don’t need to or is there some harm that can come to someone by having a large back arch? It seems that power lifters have some pretty crazy back archs when the bench press so i was just wondering what was up with this.[/quote]
A good arch comes as much from your upper back as lower back.
[quote]kcushijima wrote:
The NBA pre-draft combine results are out:
They use 185 pounds for the bench press. A couple of the guys only did 2 reps. The highest was 26.
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Trust me, I read them when they posted them 3 days ago. Some of the results are pretty interesting, and I can’t help but wonder how many of those #'s are inflated [if any]. I think they do bf% testing with calipers, which usually read low.
DeAndre Jordan at 12’, Brook Lopez at 11’11.5", Othello Hunter at 12’, Gist at 11’11.5", Elegar at 11’11.5". White boy Joe Alexander at 12’ .5"
How bout Javelle McGee at 12’3"!
Interesting to see Kevin Love, widely criticized for his lack of athleticism running the sprint faster than Beasley and vert is within a half an inch.
Somebody explain to me how Patrick Ewing is 6’6" with a 7’ wingspan yet has a standing reach of only 8’1.5"? That might explain his alleged 35" vert. I get up just as high as he does (from the stand, he’s probably got 2-3" off the approach) and yet he is 6’6" with a 7’ wingspan? That doesn’t add up.
I like seeing how I stack up against O.J. Mayo. We are the same height, have about the same reach at 8’3.5". His no-step vert is listed as 30.5" which would put his standing touch at 10’10". His running vert is listed at 41" though, which would put that at 11’8.5". So I’ve got him by 2-3" off the vert but he’s got me by 3-4 off the approach. That’s some freakish reactivity! Guess I gotta start hitting those one-legged depth jumps!
Wayne Ellington’s also about my height, has me by a couple inches on standing reach but only a 28" vert which means he’s touching 10’9.5" and 34" from the run which puts him at 11’3.5". So I’ve got him by both accounts there. He put up 7 reps at 185 which I also think I could beat on a day my shoulder was working right. It’s just a shame I don’t have that incredible shooting ability that he does haha.
If you wanna talk about long arms, look at Shan Voster from Vandy. 6’4" but reaches to 8’8.5"! Combine that with a respectable 30" vert and he’s sitting at 11’3" from the stand and 11’6.5" from the run without being incredibly athletic.
Joe Crawford from Kentucky looks like a pretty good comparison to me. About the same height, about the same standing reach, he goes 10’11.5" from the stand and 11’3.5" from the run so I’ve got him by a little bit on both.
Marcelus Kemp looks to be in the “long arms can go a long way” crew. At 6’3" his standing reach is 8’7.75" so despite only going 30" from the run he’s still up over 11’.
I’m suprised that Russell Westbrook only goes 36" from the run. Long arms though so he’s still at 11’4" but I pegged him as being 40"+ from the run.
Eric Gordon is impressive 6’2", 225, meausred at 8% bf (which judging by this scale probably means something like 12%) but he repped 15 with 185lb and, with help from a decent standing reach, goes 11’7" from the run. His 3.01 3/4-court sprint is real fast too.
Bryce Taylor from Oregon might be a combine stud. Hit 16 reps on the bench and goes 11’8.5" from the run. Pretty impressive for a 6’3" guard!
Tyrone Brazelton makes the “probably can’t dunk” team. Standing reach of 7’10" plus a poor vertical equates to a running touch of 10’3.5".
Overall Joe Alexander might had the most impressive combine numbers. Huge reach plus a 38.5" running jump equals 12’+ from the run. Add 24 reps on the bench press to the second fastest sprint time and that’s a good looking big man. Plus in college he showed to have a great shooting touch from 3 and to be a good passer. He looks like he could be a Kevin Garnett type in the NBA: lanky and athletic deceptive strength inside plus the ability to step outside and hit jumpers.
[quote]ungs9 wrote:
I’d be willing to bet a lot of professional athletes can bench 380-400. [/quote]
I’d be willing to bet that there isn’t as many as you think. Other than football, what sport is about power and strength? Even in football, linemen, tight ends, some backs and linebackers are probably the only ones were it is common.
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
Somebody explain to me how Patrick Ewing is 6’6" with a 7’ wingspan yet has a standing reach of only 8’1.5"? That might explain his alleged 35" vert. I get up just as high as he does (from the stand, he’s probably got 2-3" off the approach) and yet he is 6’6" with a 7’ wingspan? That doesn’t add up.
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One thing i can think of is that wingspan also includes the chest. So someone with a wider build and shorter arms may have the same wingspan as someone with a thinner build and longer arms.
Maybe he has a large cranium and long neck, and so his shoulder is set lower than other people his height.
that looked like a triple to me
[quote]kcushijima wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Somebody explain to me how Patrick Ewing is 6’6" with a 7’ wingspan yet has a standing reach of only 8’1.5"? That might explain his alleged 35" vert. I get up just as high as he does (from the stand, he’s probably got 2-3" off the approach) and yet he is 6’6" with a 7’ wingspan? That doesn’t add up.
One thing i can think of is that wingspan also includes the chest. So someone with a wider build and shorter arms may have the same wingspan as someone with a thinner build and longer arms.
Maybe he has a large cranium and long neck, and so his shoulder is set lower than other people his height.
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I thought that too but I’m a shade over 6’3" with a 6’8" wingspan (just measured out of curiosity haha) and my standing touch is just over 8’3". So this guy is 3 inches taller than me with 4" of wingspan on me and yet has two inches less reach? He must have one helluva chest!
I looked at the 2004 stats on the site and Dwight Howard’s stats are:
Dwight Howard
Height: 6’ 10.25"
Weight: 240
Wingspan: 7’ 4.5"
Reach: 9’ 3.5"
Vertical: 35.5
Bench: 7
If those stats are an accurate read of Howard’s ability at the time, he’s come a long way. Orlando must have a really great strength coach.
Jtrinsey, I caught the Ewing jr thing too.His chest can’t be that big, he only did 185 twice. I think it’s a typo on his reach, but he can get up. I’ve seen a vid of him doing a legit 540. Another is OJ Mayo. He isn’t that explosive off the dribble or around the rim, and his standing 30" vert shows it. But, off the run he gets a 41"? I doubt it.
As an example, I was measured at a 35" from a standstill and a 41.5" off 3 steps, so I have 5" of standing vert on him but only 1/2 inch off the run? Joe Alexander “combined” himself into the lottery. And, he’s not a big man, he’s a 3. If he kicks ass in workouts [which it looks like he will] he’ll be the first true small forward drafted, even ahead of the Italian kid.
[quote]kcushijima wrote:
I looked at the 2004 stats on the site and Dwight Howard’s stats are:
Dwight Howard
Height: 6’ 10.25"
Weight: 240
Wingspan: 7’ 4.5"
Reach: 9’ 3.5"
Vertical: 35.5
Bench: 7
If those stats are an accurate read of Howard’s ability at the time, he’s come a long way. Orlando must have a really great strength coach.
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He’s an inch taller, over 30lbs heavier and now has a 38.5" vert off the run. He’s a god damned freakshow at that size.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Jtrinsey, I caught the Ewing jr thing too.His chest can’t be that big, he only did 185 twice. I think it’s a typo on his reach, but he can get up. I’ve seen a vid of him doing a legit 540.[/quote]
Oh yeah I’m not doubting his athletic ability, I just thought that was weird. I was wondering if maybe he’s being coached to keep his shoulders pulled down (like the guys at the NFL combine try to do) to make his vert look higher but that doesn’t make much sense because NBA guys put just as much, if not more, emphasis on a guy’s standing reach.
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Joe Alexander “combined” himself into the lottery. And, he’s not a big man, he’s a 3. If he kicks ass in workouts [which it looks like he will] he’ll be the first true small forward drafted, even ahead of the Italian kid.[/quote]
Yeah, I really liked the way he played in the tournament and when I saw WVU play in the regular season. He is not a true big man but Garnett was the first name that popped into my head. Probably a better comparison would be Lamar Odom; lanky small forward who can play down low when he has to, great passer and a great athlete.