I watched a rather large guy at my gym press 150’s 27 times and if you think he could even breathe easily afterwards your nuts. theres no way this is actual.
Please allow me to tell you why this isnt real:
Im sure most of you have seen the youtube video of Ronnie benching 200 lb DB’s for like 10 reps right? Btw Even he throws the DB’s down
So here it is. This kid weighs 141 lbs and is using 100 lb DB’s and is able to sit up with them. Now ronnie ways around 300lbs so lets take 40 lbs off his bodyweight and make that the amount of weight he is repping for DB chest press. So with 200 he can do like 10, how bout with 260? to make the bodyweight/DB weight equivalent to this kid. maybe 5 reps? 6? and you want me to believe that this kid who has been doing “2 fullbody workouts a week for 2 years”(Wtf kind of workout is that?) is as strong or stronger pound for pound than a pro bodybuilder who has been lifting for 20+ years with probably atleast half of those on AAS and GH?
Not possible.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
rsg wrote:
but it does look suspicious how easily he handles the weights afterwards.
That’s what stands out more than anything. If he even showed some level of fatigue after the set when carrying them, I would believe it more. Most lifters moving that much and more would set the weights down, rest and THEN put them up. He jumps up with them after the set as if he isn’t even winded. [/quote]
I watched a vid of ronnie colman doing a set of I beleive 160 and he couldnt move after
he just threw the weights down
not to mention he also had to have someone hand him the bells after he was laying down
Maybe the weight is like this
Exactly. For some reason, the skinny (sorry…RELATIVE STRENGTH dudes on this forum probably think they have found their messiah).
Firstly getting 100 pound DBs in position and pressing them up from a lying position without assistance and then getting up without dropping them required a certain level of all-round muscular development and strength, even the lighter class powerlifters would have that look of bulging triceps, deltoids and vascular forearms - which this kid just doesn;t have. Look at the physique of the chinese olympic lifters and gymnasts and then look at this kid’s physique. OF course this kid could have been bitten by a radio active spider…
I’ll show that video to my buddy Pavel and see what he thinks of a 141 pound guy doing a perfectly balanced situp with 200 pounds on his chest and his feet not tethered (closer to a serratus sit-up if there exists such an exercise).
I;m willing to give that kid the benefit of doubt till we get further evidence but in the manner of Hercule Poirot …something isn’t right there.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Please allow me to tell you why this isnt real:
Im sure most of you have seen the youtube video of Ronnie benching 200 lb DB’s for like 10 reps right? Btw Even he throws the DB’s down
So here it is. This kid weighs 141 lbs and is using 100 lb DB’s and is able to sit up with them. Now ronnie ways around 300lbs so lets take 40 lbs off his bodyweight and make that the amount of weight he is repping for DB chest press. So with 200 he can do like 10, how bout with 260? to make the bodyweight/DB weight equivalent to this kid. maybe 5 reps? 6? and you want me to believe that this kid who has been doing “2 fullbody workouts a week for 2 years”(Wtf kind of workout is that?) is as strong or stronger pound for pound than a pro bodybuilder who has been lifting for 20+ years with probably atleast half of those on AAS and GH?
Not possible.[/quote]
fake imo. watch the vid closely and his shit eating grin right at the end screams, “I r bag of douche”. plus he is wearing gloves.
Definitely fake. Doesn’t even look real at all. I’m not hating, just realistic.
I remember seeing this video about a year ago. I thought it was fake then, I think it’s fake now.
[quote]GrabAKimber wrote:
Anyone else find it ironic that Fighting Scotty’s avi is Arnolds famous cheat curls with fake magazine weights?
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Uhh… Look up above 13 posts…^^. I already addressed that.
[quote]Fulmen wrote:
Whoever believes that shit has yet to use DB’s 80lbs and above.
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I’m surprised it took this many posts to say this because that is exactly what I thought when I was watching the video. I’ve never ever ever ever tried to lay 100 lb dumbbells on my chest and then sit up.
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
I’m gonna have to say that’s real. I’ve seen legit powerlifting videos of guys bench press 300lbs at 150lbs bodyweight. I’ll also argue that Dumbbell Benching 100lb dumbbells is much easier than benching 300lbs.
You can also see the Dumbbells say “Iron Grip.” I doubt Iron Grip also sells fake Dumbbells.
If they are fake dumbbells, the kid is pretty fucking good at doing fake reps. I also don’t think any label were switched out. The Same Iron Grip Dumbbells are at my gym and the 100s are that long. There are also no labels to switch since the weight numbers are etched in and painted on.
The kid is also using pretty good technique. If he was the kind of douche to use fake weights, why not grab the 150lb dumbbells and do 30 reps with sloppy, fast form? He’s keeping his back tight and the crunch he does on the eccentric is a legit technique that Mark “Jackass” Bell has used with great success. Apparently it works for this guy too.
Finally, I don’t think anyone makes fake 100lb dumbbells. If you’re gonna tell the lie, tell the big lie. I think most fake Dumbbells and Barbells have at least 12 plastic plates per side. Maybe this kid make these out of Styrofoam and covered the Styrofoam with sandwich rap and painted the sandwich rap to look like hard rubber. But again, why go through all the trouble if you’re not gonna make fake 500lb dumbbells?
Don’t hate on this kid. If you do, you’re the kind of fat-ass who calls skinny climbers out for using CGI when you see videos of them doing 1-Arm Chins. Just except that facts.
- Some people have awesome motor neuron efficiency
- Some people lift weights who ARE NOT BODYBUILDERS. Maybe this kid just wants to be strong. Maybe he’d rather have the body of Brian Shwab than Dexter Jackson.
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I can’t disagree with anything you said; however, #1 he just gets up too damn easy from a lying position with more than his bwt. and #2 he walks it over too easy again, with more than his bwt.
I don’t care “how” he did it, in terms of fakery, but if I had to wager, based on my points, I’d wager fake. No hate, but shit, I can do far more than that at a bwt of 260 or so and I have more trouble getting back up after a set to failure - that is if I don’t have to drop the weight to the side. FAKE.
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
Is everyone’s ego just so huge that they can’t imagine some skinny kid accomplished a feat of strength it’s taken us years of benching to accomplish?
Now THIS is fake. Check this video out.
You won’t be disappointed by this dude doing 585 for 23 reps, one of them with a good
pause at the chest.
The amount of effort it would take to perfectly craft 50 lb dumbbells to look like 100lb dumbbells is just crazy. He taps them together a few times, so it’s not like he put paper mache on the ends of the bells.
If you’re so positive that this kid can’t bench 200lbs, are you really entertaining the idea that this guy spent hours of labor making prop dumbbells so he could fake a feat of strength that was impressive for his bodyweight yet slightly believable and not totally mind-blowing? If you believe that, then you must think that this kid not only craves attention but that he’s so obsessive compulsive he made the numbers on the dumbbells barely believable so he could convince strangers on the internet that he’s strong. And apparently, to many of you, he’s not only failed at weightlifting because he needs to resort to lifting fake implements, but he’s failed at film-making and respecting suspension of disbelief.
And who cares if he’s skinny as all hell. Once you admit that he’s really pressing those dumbbells, you must also admit that he has great genetics for weightlifting or powerlifting in light weight classes. There are other sports in the world where the winner isn’t determined by a panel of judges who grade athletes on the quality of their tan and the symmetry between their traps and delts. [/quote]
Wow, you’re fighting pretty hard for him with no evidence other than video. I do understand though where you are coming from but as for me, I don’t suffer from any of this stuff you are eluding to in your post. I’m a competitive PL and my mindset has always been and always will be you either moved the weight or you didn’t. Most PL’s are rather well aquainted with the fact that there are others, sometimes much smaller, that will outlift you. There is not much shades of gray in PL (other than equipment and such) so, that said, I looked at the vid again and I still don’t buy it.
If he legit did those lifts, my hats off to him and yes, he has fantastic genetics. One last observation and something I noticed after viewing again. Although the kid appears to be straining, and he is lean, I just don’t see the “muscle under tension” that you would expect to see while straining. I don’t know if I worded that right, but look at his shoulders and tri’s under tension - it doesn’t look like a strain to me.
[quote]Majin wrote:
I don’t know whether real or fake. But there was a whole rack of dbs like these and they seemed appropriately marked. So let’s assume it’s real. Also I’ve seen similar shit happen in my gym but never understood the point.
The thing this video is good for is to show people how NOT to train for bodybuilding. That kid is lifting with his ‘nerves’ instead of his muscles. He doesn’t eat worth shit and is doing nothing but straining his CNS and chasing after weight. That kind of show-off idiocy will typically not lead to any decent development. It’s also a perfect example of how some people bench a Buick but have no chest development because all they did was look at the numbers and never bothered listening to their body. [/quote]
hahaha, I love that this is referred to as “showing off,” whereas bodybuilding, a competition based ENTIRELY on your looks is - what? A puritanical display of modesty?
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I can’t disagree with anything you said; however, #1 he just gets up too damn easy from a lying position with more than his bwt. and #2 he walks it over too easy again, with more than his bwt.
I don’t care “how” he did it, in terms of fakery, but if I had to wager, based on my points, I’d wager fake. No hate, but shit, I can do far more than that at a bwt of 260 or so and I have more trouble getting back up after a set to failure - that is if I don’t have to drop the weight to the side. FAKE.
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Agreed. You don’t sit 200lbs on your chest and then sit up with it without your legs flailing wildly when you only weigh 140lbs. In fact, NO ONE finishes a set with that much weight and then rests the shit on their chest. If anything, the goal would be to put the weight on your knees and rock forward. Even that would require much more overall body weight to accomplish.
- YouTube check out this other ‘real’ video also of a 150lb women squatting 600lbs atg!
[quote]shizen wrote:
- YouTube check out this other ‘real’ video also of a 150lb women squatting 600lbs atg! [/quote]
Check this out… It’s Bono on roids.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
I can’t disagree with anything you said; however, #1 he just gets up too damn easy from a lying position with more than his bwt. and #2 he walks it over too easy again, with more than his bwt.
I don’t care “how” he did it, in terms of fakery, but if I had to wager, based on my points, I’d wager fake. No hate, but shit, I can do far more than that at a bwt of 260 or so and I have more trouble getting back up after a set to failure - that is if I don’t have to drop the weight to the side. FAKE.
Agreed. You don’t sit 200lbs on your chest and then sit up with it without your legs flailing wildly when you only weigh 140lbs. In fact, NO ONE finishes a set with that much weight and then rests the shit on their chest. If anything, the goal would be to put the weight on your knees and rock forward. Even that would require much more overall body weight to accomplish.[/quote]
Yup and pondering this further, thinking to weighted situps and its variation, and knowing without a doubt my core is stronger than this kid’s…I cannot do a weight sit up with 200lbs in the manner this kid did. FAKE. NOT HATE.
final point; in the first vid when he puts the weight back into the rack, it just sits “too light” in my opinion. doesn’t seem right…no effort, very little impact - not talking slamming it down or anything - it just doesn’t “sit down” like a 100lbs if you get my meaning. i know the kid says they are coated, but that wouldn’t account for what i perceived.
lol last comment i promise…he seems to get the db’s in position from sitting to pressing a bit easy in my opinion. anyone pressing over 100’s that just lays back with them? or are you like me with a knee kick on each side? hmm?
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
lol last comment i promise…he seems to get the db’s in position from sitting to pressing a bit easy in my opinion. anyone pressing over 100’s that just lays back with them? or are you like me with a knee kick on each side? hmm?[/quote]
Knee kick every single time. Those weights are fake or he was training in the Twilight Zone. Nice gym they have, by the way. Rod Serling would be proud.