This Just Cannot Be Real...

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
dragonmamma wrote:
I think it’s real. My mentor at the gym, a Coast Guard instructor, weighs about 140-lbs (but is shorter at about 5’6") and I’ve seen him press 100-lb DBs and drop them to the ground with good form, making it look fairly effortless.

Of course, I think he might be an android; the guy never breaks a sweat even after several rounds of suicide sprints.

Yes, but even he dropped them to the ground first.[/quote]

yeah, cause anything over 100 lbs has to be dropped LOL j/k Prof X :wink:

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Professor X wrote:
dragonmamma wrote:
I think it’s real. My mentor at the gym, a Coast Guard instructor, weighs about 140-lbs (but is shorter at about 5’6") and I’ve seen him press 100-lb DBs and drop them to the ground with good form, making it look fairly effortless.

Of course, I think he might be an android; the guy never breaks a sweat even after several rounds of suicide sprints.

Yes, but even he dropped them to the ground first.

yeah, cause anything over 100 lbs has to be dropped LOL j/k Prof X ;)[/quote]

We only drop the weights when you’re around.

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btw- that looks real to me, he struggled a little which didn’t look fake.

plus, the way he put them on his chest and rolled up is possible, doesn’t take that much effort as many believe. it’s close, but i say it’s real, what do I know though, I’m not big :stuck_out_tongue:

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if it is fake, it’s sad he had to lift his head on every rep like that, just another reason me thinks it’s real. but again, there is a chance it’s fake.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

I think the point is, if you can hop up with that much weight after a set without even being winded, then his max should be MUCH heavier. Why would he only go up to 110lbs? If 100lbs is damn near effortless, where is the video with him actually straining to get 140lbs in the air?[/quote]

Well…my mentor purposely holds back on muscle building because he doesn’t WANT to be any bigger. Did you ever see The Guardian? Well, he does the same kind of stuff the Keven Costner character did in the film. Being light, small and agile is a major plus in water rescue work.

As for the guy in the video…he may have wanted it to look effortless.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
if it is fake, it’s sad he had to lift his head on every rep like that, just another reason me thinks it’s real. but again, there is a chance it’s fake.[/quote]

No one is arguing that he lifted those DBs with some effort. The debate is over whether it’s likely that they could actually weigh 100 lbs. each.

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[quote]TShaw wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
if it is fake, it’s sad he had to lift his head on every rep like that, just another reason me thinks it’s real. but again, there is a chance it’s fake.

No one is arguing that he lifted those DBs with some effort. The debate is over whether it’s likely that they could actually weigh 100 lbs. each.[/quote]

Yes, I know. My point still stands. If there were fake, I wouldn’t think he would show any effort, I think he did show effort. maybe not so much putting them back, but in lifting them he did.

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Another impressive video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch=1mgabe2zGkI&feature=related

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Whoever believes that shit has yet to use DB’s 80lbs and above.

Edit: /Thread

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That looks fake to me. If he said it was 250lb dumbells or something crazy everyone would say fake, but instead he has people doubting his fakeness. They are probably 50’s or something kind of heavy for him made up to look like 100’s.

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Is everyone’s ego just so huge that they can’t imagine some skinny kid accomplished a feat of strength it’s taken us years of benching to accomplish?

Now THIS is fake. Check this video out.
You won’t be disappointed by this dude doing 585 for 23 reps, one of them with a good
pause at the chest.

The amount of effort it would take to perfectly craft 50 lb dumbbells to look like 100lb dumbbells is just crazy. He taps them together a few times, so it’s not like he put paper mache on the ends of the bells.

If you’re so positive that this kid can’t bench 200lbs, are you really entertaining the idea that this guy spent hours of labor making prop dumbbells so he could fake a feat of strength that was impressive for his bodyweight yet slightly believable and not totally mind-blowing? If you believe that, then you must think that this kid not only craves attention but that he’s so obsessive compulsive he made the numbers on the dumbbells barely believable so he could convince strangers on the internet that he’s strong. And apparently, to many of you, he’s not only failed at weightlifting because he needs to resort to lifting fake implements, but he’s failed at film-making and respecting suspension of disbelief.

And who cares if he’s skinny as all hell. Once you admit that he’s really pressing those dumbbells, you must also admit that he has great genetics for weightlifting or powerlifting in light weight classes. There are other sports in the world where the winner isn’t determined by a panel of judges who grade athletes on the quality of their tan and the symmetry between their traps and delts.

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I don’t know whether real or fake. But there was a whole rack of dbs like these and they seemed appropriately marked. So let’s assume it’s real. Also I’ve seen similar shit happen in my gym but never understood the point.

The thing this video is good for is to show people how NOT to train for bodybuilding. That kid is lifting with his ‘nerves’ instead of his muscles. He doesn’t eat worth shit and is doing nothing but straining his CNS and chasing after weight. That kind of show-off idiocy will typically not lead to any decent development. It’s also a perfect example of how some people bench a Buick but have no chest development because all they did was look at the numbers and never bothered listening to their body.

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[quote]Scrotus wrote:
That looks fake to me. If he said it was 250lb dumbells or something crazy everyone would say fake, but instead he has people doubting his fakeness. They are probably 50’s or something kind of heavy for him made up to look like 100’s.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly.

According to the cable stack at my gym, I can one-arm row the entire stack of “250 pounds”.

I don’t even weigh 250 pounds, yet standing and pulling a horizontal cable, I can apparently row more than my bodyweight without falling over.

It’s physically impossible for my feet to exert -250 pounds of friction against the ground, so I’m pretty sure that the weight is mislabeled.

So fake dumbbells I think are a realistic explanation.

ElbowStrike

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I don’t believe the video b/c of physics as someone else has pointed out.

I’m about 190 and moving 100s to my chest like that, then sitting up is impossible. If you weigh less than the total amount of the DBs, you cannot move up. It has nothing to do w/ strength, more so mass. a 300 lbs guy could sit up due to weight distribution.

I’m waiting for the vid of him squatting 600 - 700 lbs raw as well.

If you look at guys his weight benching that kinda weight, they are short, thick and look strong. He looks 12. My forarms look bigger than his quads and thats not saying much for me.

I’d like to see him weigh himself, then stand on a scale w/ those weights and show the added weight.

I don’t believe this for a second.

I bet he pasted 100 lbs on the side of it. I’m not hating, just not seeing the physics here…

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[quote]Majin wrote:

The thing this video is good for is to show people how NOT to train for bodybuilding. That kid is lifting with his ‘nerves’ instead of his muscles. [/quote]

Shit like this needs to stop. What the fuck is wrong with training the CNS anyway? So you don’t get as much hypertrophy? Bodybuilding is not the only reason people lift weights. There is a sport called weightlifting and a sport called powerlifting where athletes compete against athletes in the same weight class (their competitors bodyweight is roughly the same as theirs). You know what the kicker is? The only thing that matters in these competitions is that the athlete execute a legal lift. There’s no physique judging portion of the meet! I know, right? WTF? It’s hardly a real sport!

And Dante Trudell would probably disagree with your claim that chasing after weights like this is the wrong way to train as a bodybuilder. You know what the Doggcrapp template calls for on Chest Day? Trick question: there is no chest day. The day you happen to train chest is 1 Chest Exercise, 1 Shoulder Exercise, 1 Triceps, 1 Back Width and 1 Back Thickness exercise. You just do 1 work set of one exercise for each of these body-parts and you go balls out with the heaviest weight you can use for a decent amount of reps. Please don’t try to dispute that Doggcrapp training isn’t an effective method of training.

If you’re going to pick on this kid, then you can at least say this: his genetics suck for bodybuilding. You know who has great genetics for bodybuilding? Flex Wheeler. Flex was half as strong as many of his peers but was just as, if not more successful than most of them. But since this kid is using the powerlifting technique of raising is head and upper back on the bench during the eccentric, he’s probably more concerned with moving heavy weight than with pumping up his chesticles.

What I’m trying to say is that calling this kid out for bad bodybuilding training is just as, if not more stupid than calling out gustavo badell for being a bad powerlifter since he trains with light weights but is as big as a truck.

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I love the irony of FightingScott’s defense of the kid’s “fake” video and his own ‘Arnold lifting fake weights’ avatar. lol

Seriously… I do agree with your above ^^ argument, though.

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[quote]CJK wrote:
I agree - he does not act like he is holding a total of 200 pounds in his hands. At all. ESPECIALLY for a 140 lber.

THIS is impressive and actually looks real -

Yeah! This guy’s completion and “dismount” are nicely done. Not unlike what that kid was doing.

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[quote]FightingScott wrote:
Is everyone’s ego just so huge that they can’t imagine some skinny kid accomplished a feat of strength it’s taken us years of benching to accomplish?

Now THIS is fake. Check this video out.
You won’t be disappointed by this dude doing 585 for 23 reps, one of them with a good
pause at the chest.

The amount of effort it would take to perfectly craft 50 lb dumbbells to look like 100lb dumbbells is just crazy. He taps them together a few times, so it’s not like he put paper mache on the ends of the bells.

If you’re so positive that this kid can’t bench 200lbs, are you really entertaining the idea that this guy spent hours of labor making prop dumbbells so he could fake a feat of strength that was impressive for his bodyweight yet slightly believable and not totally mind-blowing? If you believe that, then you must think that this kid not only craves attention but that he’s so obsessive compulsive he made the numbers on the dumbbells barely believable so he could convince strangers on the internet that he’s strong. And apparently, to many of you, he’s not only failed at weightlifting because he needs to resort to lifting fake implements, but he’s failed at film-making and respecting suspension of disbelief.

And who cares if he’s skinny as all hell. Once you admit that he’s really pressing those dumbbells, you must also admit that he has great genetics for weightlifting or powerlifting in light weight classes. There are other sports in the world where the winner isn’t determined by a panel of judges who grade athletes on the quality of their tan and the symmetry between their traps and delts. [/quote][/quote]

I wouldn’t be stunned if it was real, but there’s something about that video that just doesn’t look right.

Look how he kind of throws the dumbbells around when he sits down and stands up. Look how the db’s are wobbling all over the place for his last few reps. You just don’t do that with 100 lb bells. Wobbling 100 lb db’s are pretty darn difficult to control. Once they start wobbling that much, I usually just shut it down so they don’t fall on my head.

Look how he does however many reps, and then just pops up and walks over to the rack and sets them down. When I carry 200 lbs worth of db’s, I kind of waddle like a duck. He just strolls on over.

I can only do 5-6 reps w/ 100 lb db’s, but my face is red and I’m out of breath, and I have to set them down and rest for a minute before I go to re-rack them. I don’t just pop up, and walk on over to the rack.

There’s nothing on that video that just screams “Fake!”, but a bunch of little things just don’t look right when it’s a scrawny little 140 lb kid doing it. I find it hard to believe a kid his size can just manhandle db’s that heavy.

I wouldn’t be stunned if this were real, but it just doesn’t smell right.

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[quote]Synthetickiller wrote:

I bet he pasted 100 lbs on the side of it. I’m not hating, just not seeing the physics here…[/quote]

did you notice the thickness of the DBs? 50 lb DBs aren’t that thick for that brand.

I believe it was Eric Cressey who said that every square inch of muscle can generate (insert # here), which is a lot of force. This is how guys that are only 160 lbs can DL more than the majority of people here.

Maybe this is the case with this kid, maybe it’s not.

BTW- in HS/early college when I really trained chest more than I should have, I was 160 lbs pressing about 90 lb DBs at one point for about 5 reps, then again I dropped those suckers lol

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Anyone else find it ironic that Fighting Scotty’s avi is Arnolds famous cheat curls with fake magazine weights?

Just pointing out!

This just goes to prove that physique building has nothing to do with youtube videos and possibly fake dumbbells. Everyone has seen and possibly been “that guy” who power shrugs hundreds of pounds for weeks on end developing nothing but bent barbells, or the kid who cheat curls 90 pounds and yet hasn’t shown any growth in 4 weeks. I understand if you are using some intense method to bring up lagging body parts, but come on!