[quote]shizen wrote:
Not that I don’t belive he CAN"T do this I mean he is similar to shaq when he was younger and shaq could bench over 400lbs. Yet these were bumpper plates that was obvious, so its impossible to tell what amount of weight that is.
I love Dwight Howard though he is going to have a great career.
But seriously thought most basketball players are not putting up amazing weight #'s-and will not because of leverages- in the gym, and well it doesn’t make that big of a difference for them in the game.
Edit: this is a pretty cool site has a lot of different athletes training.
not that strong of legs only about 6 reps with 315 on leg press-half reps also-, which is one of his “heavier exercises” so I doubt his bench is as high as your saying, which really with his height is hard to get large weightlifting #'s yet he is still ridiculously strong. [/quote]
Those aren’t bumper plates, they’re black rubber coated plates. My gym has them, and most 24hr fitness’ I go to have those or the plates with the grips. I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to believe this?
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
shizen wrote:
Not that I don’t belive he CAN"T do this I mean he is similar to shaq when he was younger and shaq could bench over 400lbs. Yet these were bumpper plates that was obvious, so its impossible to tell what amount of weight that is.
I love Dwight Howard though he is going to have a great career.
But seriously thought most basketball players are not putting up amazing weight #'s-and will not because of leverages- in the gym, and well it doesn’t make that big of a difference for them in the game.
Edit: this is a pretty cool site has a lot of different athletes training.
not that strong of legs only about 6 reps with 315 on leg press-half reps also-, which is one of his “heavier exercises” so I doubt his bench is as high as your saying, which really with his height is hard to get large weightlifting #'s yet he is still ridiculously strong.
Those aren’t bumper plates, they’re black rubber coated plates. My gym has them, and most 24hr fitness’ I go to have those or the plates with the grips. I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to believe this?[/quote]
Probably because his leg press is very low and thats considered his heaviest lifting by his trainer.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
As for the bench, is it just me or do those plates look to be different thickness? Colour me skeptical anyway.[/quote]
Definitely different thickness. It is perfectly plausible that they are all 45 lbs and different thicknesses, but with a pro bball team, you would definitely think they would all be the same. It certainly makes me wonder a bit.
He is definitely using bumper plates…They are usually measure in kilos,starting at 5 and up… Its impossible to tell how much weight he is benching…Most numbers by pro athletes are inflated unless done in a testing site like the NFL combine
according to this site says around 345, but look at all the exaggerated #'s, in the video he was not lifting even over 300lbs. [/quote]
That was posted a year ago. Why is it so hard for you to believe that he’s benching 365? Mybe they look like they’re a different thickness 'cause you’re gauging them next to a 7 foot 270lb monster?
The thing behind my arguement is that when anyone benches near max on any lifts is that the body positions under the bar to get in near maximal force.
Also the trainer should be shot if he lets him bench with that form going that heavy…
(shoulders over pressing)…talk about tight rotators or blown shoulder joints…
And why would’nt he he help in a commercial to help sell a product. Players endorse all sorts of crap that alot of people know they’re just doing for the money…
Puzzled: I’ve watched the vid multiple times and doubt that the weight was even close to 365 lbs. He makes it look way too easy, especially the drive from the bottom up, the weight just springs up without bouncing of his chest. He lifts it very fast yet controlled. His grip is very narrow, given DH12’s 6’11’ frame yet misteriously the bar doesn’t bend or shake. At 5’11’’ 200 lbs, I’ve pressed 365 raw only once and thought my wrists were gonna break. It took me forever to lift it too, good 2-3 seconds.
Pissed: I bought a Toronto Raptors Joey Graham jersey in 2006 because he bench pressed 405 lbs and played for my favourite team. Guess what, JG14 isn’t playing so good despite being phenomenally athletic.
Conclusion: Sometimes numbers in the gym don’t mean shit on the basketball floor. DH12 may be able to lift 365, but that mos def wasn’t the weight in the video. What does your face look like when you bench press your 1 or 2 rep max?
[quote]TKOWKD1 wrote:
I am puzzled and pissed at the same time.
Puzzled: I’ve watched the vid multiple times and doubt that the weight was even close to 365 lbs. He makes it look way too easy, especially the drive from the bottom up, the weight just springs up without bouncing of his chest. He lifts it very fast yet controlled. His grip is very narrow, given DH12’s 6’11’ frame yet misteriously the bar doesn’t bend or shake. At 5’11’’ 200 lbs, I’ve pressed 365 raw only once and thought my wrists were gonna break. It took me forever to lift it too, good 2-3 seconds.
Pissed: I bought a Toronto Raptors Joey Graham jersey in 2006 because he bench pressed 405 lbs and played for my favourite team. Guess what, JG14 isn’t playing so good despite being phenomenally athletic.
Conclusion: Sometimes numbers in the gym don’t mean shit on the basketball floor. DH12 may be able to lift 365, but that mos def wasn’t the weight in the video. What does your face look like when you bench press your 1 or 2 rep max?
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Joey Graham benched 185 26 times at the NBA combine, around the same time his 405lb max claim was made. 185x26 does not equal a 405 max. At my strongest I put Up 185x21 and could max 315.
JTrinsey, I think its the opposite of what your thinking. Ewing looks to have fairly narrow shoulders for his height and arm length, which means you don’t have as much to push up when you reach. Imagine if your shoulders were 2 or 3 inches more narrow and you tried to stretch them out to reach, you really wouldn’t get too high.
[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
the weight moves slow at max or near max weight.(not to mention when you take the lift off- your body sinks under the weight)
Take a good look next time @ anyone maxing out on any lift and see how their body changes and speed of bar…
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Yeah no shit. But just because that was a double doesn’t mean it was a MAX double. Why are people assuming this? I personally think the vid is BS and that there’s no way he’d do 365 x2 that easily because a hard double would have to be around 380 which would put him ball park 400lb.
But don’t use the excuse “it’s fake cos he’s not straining on a double”. How many times have any of you taken doubles and not strained on them? I know I’ve done it plenty of times.
Kobe Bryant is the MVP, faster and stronger than Dwight Howard.
He’s got Championship Rings and is playing in the 2008 Finals. KB24 is better than DH12 because he can jump over Astin Martin and Pools with Snakes in 'em. KB24 is stronger because he can push midgets on bikes and lift them up too. Here’s proof:
Conclusion: Bench Press isn’t functional, it will cause you to loose in the NBA playoffs. Still don’t believe me, Kobe tried to ‘bench press’ the crazy girl in Colorado away and we know how that ended.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
FISCHER613 wrote:
the weight moves slow at max or near max weight.(not to mention when you take the lift off- your body sinks under the weight)
Take a good look next time @ anyone maxing out on any lift and see how their body changes and speed of bar…
Yeah no shit. But just because that was a double doesn’t mean it was a MAX double. Why are people assuming this? I personally think the vid is BS and that there’s no way he’d do 365 x2 that easily because a hard double would have to be around 380 which would put him ball park 400lb.
But don’t use the excuse “it’s fake cos he’s not straining on a double”. How many times have any of you taken doubles and not strained on them? I know I’ve done it plenty of times.[/quote]
Hanley sounds like an intelligent guy. I know when I do a max triple the first 2 look like I’m doing a set of 8, then the 3rd stalls about halfway up and I grind out the rest. Maybe you guys are right. Maybe it is bullshit. I don’t see why he would bullshit about how much he benches though.
In my opinion thats a faux lift. Maybe he can bench 365, but the bar just explodes off his chest, and he looks like he has three reps in the tank. It just looks very unnatural for a maximum effort type lift.
