[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
Jtrinsey, I caught the Ewing jr thing too.His chest can’t be that big, he only did 185 twice. I think it’s a typo on his reach, but he can get up. I’ve seen a vid of him doing a legit 540.
Oh yeah I’m not doubting his athletic ability, I just thought that was weird. I was wondering if maybe he’s being coached to keep his shoulders pulled down (like the guys at the NFL combine try to do) to make his vert look higher but that doesn’t make much sense because NBA guys put just as much, if not more, emphasis on a guy’s standing reach.
Joe Alexander “combined” himself into the lottery. And, he’s not a big man, he’s a 3. If he kicks ass in workouts [which it looks like he will] he’ll be the first true small forward drafted, even ahead of the Italian kid.
Yeah, I really liked the way he played in the tournament and when I saw WVU play in the regular season. He is not a true big man but Garnett was the first name that popped into my head. Probably a better comparison would be Lamar Odom; lanky small forward who can play down low when he has to, great passer and a great athlete.
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I can’t understand why his reach reads the way it does. It has to be a typo, that’s the only thing that makes sense from where I’m sitting.I can somewhat see the Odom comparison, although Alexander is way more athletic. I think if put into the right system, he could be a marion-esque type player, with more of a low block game and a little less defensive minded.
Sorry, I’m still not wowed. A kid I go to college with is a 6’6’’ baller and he benches around 315. And he is no professional. To the question that most professional athletes can’t bench 350+ look at football players- practically every lineman that plays out of high school, hockey players-most of the guys at my college on the hockey team can bench at least 275, wrestlers, MMA guys.
The average High School kid can hit 315 with a couple years training. With a professional strength coach and ahem certain supplements that you inject into your glute you guys really think that these guys can’t bench that much. I’m not buying it.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I think if put into the right system, he could be a marion-esque type player, with more of a low block game and a little less defensive minded.[/quote]
That vid is one of the more impressive things I’ve seen. I have a 6’11" - 7’0" wingspan and, let me tell you, improving bench press is a bitch.
And a couple of things for you dumbasses out there questioning the vid: the reason his form doesn’t look right is because HE"S NOT A BENCH PRESSER HE’S A BALLPLAYER. I really doubt a 21yr old with 50 million would go to the trouble of making a vid with fake weight during the season. seriously guys, use your brains.
btw, this might surprise you guys but a lot of pro’s in nfl/nba/mlb are not very strong in the weightroom, at all. they don’t have to be. here’s an example: before kellen winslow’s rookie year, he was benching 315 x 3. #6 pick in the draft
[quote]duck_dodger23 wrote:
I really doubt a 21yr old with 50 million would go to the trouble of making a vid with fake weight during the season. seriously guys, use your brains.
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He’s not making the video, his trainer is. And wouldn’t 365 make the bar bend at least a little bit? Oh wait, we couldn’t see the bar because they decided to change the camera angle for that last set. The video was a marketing tool.
look at the vid d. howard is straining a little. honestly he could prolly bench a lot more with better tech and some training, but, why would he want to?
a marketing tool for what? the orlando magic? lol you think someone is gonna be tix bc d.howard can bench a lot? the trainer already has a job
do you sleep with aluminum foil on your head at night so the govt cant steal your thoughts?
[quote]duck_dodger23 wrote:
no, 365 wouldnt make the bar bend.
look at the vid d. howard is straining a little. honestly he could prolly bench a lot more with better tech and some training, but, why would he want to?
a marketing tool for what? the orlando magic? lol you think someone is gonna be tix bc d.howard can bench a lot? the trainer already has a job
do you sleep with aluminum foil on your head at night so the govt cant steal your thoughts?[/quote]
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
I think if put into the right system, he could be a marion-esque type player, with more of a low block game and a little less defensive minded.
Guess who drafts #15?[/quote]
I think he’ll be gone by then. I think he won’t go past the Blazers at 13. They seem to love athletic 3’s. And, even if he did go #15, their system has changed, which is kinda sad.
To all those who doubt he’s really puting up 365, what the fuck is wrong with you?
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
I think if put into the right system, he could be a marion-esque type player, with more of a low block game and a little less defensive minded.
Guess who drafts #15?
I think he’ll be gone by then. I think he won’t go past the Blazers at 13. They seem to love athletic 3’s. And, even if he did go #15, their system has changed, which is kinda sad.
To all those who doubt he’s really puting up 365, what the fuck is wrong with you? [/quote]
Call me cynical I guess, since there’s a lot of videos of lifts with fake plates floating around the net. I’m not saying he isn’t strong, a bad player, or anything like that. It just doesn’t look right to me. Hey, if it is in fact real then hat’s off to him.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
I think if put into the right system, he could be a marion-esque type player, with more of a low block game and a little less defensive minded.
Guess who drafts #15?
I think he’ll be gone by then. I think he won’t go past the Blazers at 13. They seem to love athletic 3’s. And, even if he did go #15, their system has changed, which is kinda sad.
To all those who doubt he’s really puting up 365, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Call me cynical I guess, since there’s a lot of videos of lifts with fake plates floating around the net. I’m not saying he isn’t strong, a bad player, or anything like that. It just doesn’t look right to me. Hey, if it is in fact real then hat’s off to him.[/quote]
I can definitely see where you’re coming from if it were some random dude, but this is a professional athlete. He has nothing to prove and did this for a site devoted to athletes training principals,philosophies and programs. If you search the site there’s some pretty cool shit on there. There’s also some pretty goofy looking/sounding shit, but I guess that’s pretty standard.
My vote is that was a real lift. He is a big strong guy and I am with WhiteFlash, what does he have to gain from pretending it is more weight than he can really lift?
Not that I don’t belive he CAN"T do this I mean he is similar to shaq when he was younger and shaq could bench over 400lbs. Yet these were bumpper plates that was obvious, so its impossible to tell what amount of weight that is.
I love Dwight Howard though he is going to have a great career.
But seriously thought most basketball players are not putting up amazing weight #'s-and will not because of leverages- in the gym, and well it doesn’t make that big of a difference for them in the game.
Edit: this is a pretty cool site has a lot of different athletes training.
not that strong of legs only about 6 reps with 315 on leg press-half reps also-, which is one of his “heavier exercises” so I doubt his bench is as high as your saying, which really with his height is hard to get large weightlifting #'s yet he is still ridiculously strong.