I have pretty sore quads from high rep squatting yesterday.
I will do DLs either tomorrow or day thereafter and I don’t think the soreness will subside by then.
So would sore quads affect my DL performance? Anyone did this before and experienced a drop in DL performance?
Your asking if preformance would suffer if the muscle you were working was sore?
Probably,
But Im sure everyone here has set PR’s when they were sore and Im sure everyone hre has been weak as hell at times, when they were sore.
Your quads shouldn’t be a primary mover, so if the soreness isn’t completely debilitating (e.g. you can’t get your hips low enough for proper deadlifting form) it shouldn’t be a major problem.
CNS fatigue is a different story, but again the higher reps have probably stimulated more “muscle damage” than CNS fatigue.
Sore quads alone won’t affect your DL that much. However, squatting would affect it much more. You use your lower back and glutes a lot in both exercises, so if these muscles need recovery, you won’t perform well.
Also true, good point.
Try and see. That’s what this is all about, right?
We are all different and if it works for you, then it works.
your sore? fuck man, best time to lift then!
I’ve been sore for five straight months, so go lift! Just warm-up well and stretch em out before you DL. Doc
[quote]gi2eg wrote:
Your quads shouldn’t be a primary mover.[/quote]
I find this statement fascinating. Please elaborate.
[quote]romanaz wrote:
your sore? fuck man, best time to lift then![/quote]
ditto…that’s just a part of getting stronger. If you can’t work through the soreness then you shouldn’t even bother lifting at all.
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
gi2eg wrote:
Your quads shouldn’t be a primary mover.
I find this statement fascinating. Please elaborate.[/quote]
Maybe our bodytypes necessitate different primary movers, but deadlifts have always been primarily a posterior chain movement for me.
[quote]gi2eg wrote:
Maybe our bodytypes necessitate different primary movers, but deadlifts have always been primarily a posterior chain movement for me.[/quote]
So you would contend that quad strength contributes minimally to deadlifting?
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
So you would contend that quad strength contributes minimally to deadlifting?
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Umm, do you have something to say, or are you just looking to start a nit-pick battle? I’m kind of getting the sense that’s what you’re trying to lead into.
[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
apwsearch wrote:
So you would contend that quad strength contributes minimally to deadlifting?
Umm, do you have something to say, or are you just looking to start a nit-pick battle? I’m kind of getting the sense that’s what you’re trying to lead into.[/quote]
I just love statements like the one he made and am interested in how he has arrived at that conclusion.
What the fuck does it matter to you, anyway? Are you his special friend?
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
What the fuck does it matter to you, anyway? Are you his special friend?
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It’s irritating when a thread descends into arguments over nothing, and figured I’d try and head this one off if that was where it was headed. So relax there, chief.
[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
apwsearch wrote:
What the fuck does it matter to you, anyway? Are you his special friend?
It’s irritating when a thread descends into arguments over nothing, and figured I’d try and head this one off if that was where it was headed. So relax there, chief.[/quote]
Fair enough.
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
gi2eg wrote:
Maybe our bodytypes necessitate different primary movers, but deadlifts have always been primarily a posterior chain movement for me.
So you would contend that quad strength contributes minimally to deadlifting?
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No. I’m not thinking in terms of max/min. I’m thinking in terms of primary and secondary. As someone with your experience knows, there are many important synergists involved in both the sumo and conventional deadlift. Take one of these away, and no more deadlift. Fortunately, the OP doesn’t have to take one of these away, he only has to deal with some DOMS and tightness(/possible weakness?) in his quadriceps.
Certain lifters, due to personal biomechanics and preferred lifting style will feel more stress on their anterior chain vs. posterior chain. Something that comes to mind is when a lifter doesn’t “sit back” as much as “down”, making the movement more like a squat. Trap bar deadlifts are another example of deadlifting with more of a quadricep contribution.
From experience, having sore quads affects my squat more negatively than it does my deadlift. I also have radically different experiences in terms of DOMS from my own workouts when I do squats vs. deadlifts. The OP will have to try and see, of course, but I did my best to make an educated guess.
Hope this helps clear up any confusion.
I’d say it depends on the style in which you deadlift.
Take the guy in my avvy - Jouko was definitely not a quad dominant deadlifter - if you the same/similar then I see no probs.
Try it either way.
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
gi2eg wrote:
Your quads shouldn’t be a primary mover.
I find this statement fascinating. Please elaborate.[/quote]
Spinal erectors, glutes and hamstrings have always been the prime movers in deadlifts. The quads should always come into play, but only as a synergist.
Just hit a new raw dead PR tonight (460lbs) and my quads are pretty sore from mondays heavy squats. Soreness doesn’t seem to affect my deadlift performance, i guess it depends on how sore you realy are.
AS it was said before your quads shouldn’t be your primary mover.