[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Plus I took a shit load of caffeine and am really board right now… You’re as entertaining as anything else now that you dropped the shitty gay attacks.[/quote]
Beansie, if you wanna troll around and fuck up another thread with your idiocy at least learn some basic English you butt warrior.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
What argument am I (obviously not anymore) backing out of? What points am I dancing around? Are we reading the same thread?
You feel, as a faceless coward, it is okay to bash others. I don’t feel you should be able to do so, so I spoke up. (And for someone that supposedly knows my post history, you would know I use fuck more often than a preacher uses Jesus. So fail on the upset point. I use fuck when I’m fucking happy too…)
Then you made some ignorant remarks, and this just stopped being fun…
Dude your posts scream “I’m too good for this place and you losers.” So why continue? You trolled this thread, I reacted, as usual, and now you have what you want… So go away already and be superior elsewhere.
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You failed to answer a couple points I queried you on. For instance I asked you what was so comical about scooby’s training age.
Funny thing is, I replied to this thread b/c I thought the bashing on scooby was one sided, which he certainly doesn’t deserve. Here we have a bunch of posters tearing down a nice guy, who’s older and still looks great for his age behind his back, so tell me who are the cowards?
I’m not bashing anyone’s physique here, so why do you care if I have a pic to validate myself with? Even if I were bashing physiques it wouldn’t matter anyway. Most of the people replying, including yourself don’t look as good as him anyway, so with your logic, none of them should be commenting on him or his video.
Don’t flatter yourself, I don’t follow all your posts, I was basing the judgement I made above on your previous posts in this thread where you were dropping f bombs my way and calling scooby a little bitch.
Why do I continue, same reason anyone else would. You initiated an argument with me, so obviously I’m going to reply back to it. Pretty simple isn’t it.
[quote]Deorum wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
I’m confused as to why everyone has their panties in a bunch here. Please somebody explain the proper way of doing a barbell row.
I’m confused if this is not the right way and if this is not almost exactly what scooby doo was doing.
Besides advocating a his personal preference on rep scheme and low weight I’m lost to why scooby do or op has been flamed here. Sure low weight is going to be flamed… its a bodybuilding forum, guys are lifting heavy and getting big; but I didn’t see anything craaaazy with his form. [/quote]
Do you see the exaggerated arc in the movement on the concentric? and the unnatural movement place on the eccentric?
That is whats being referred to. It would be simply impossible to lift that way and add any sort of weight to the bar. Youd either tip over or be forced to use 40lbs forever.
Pay attention to the details. If the video you posted was shot from the side you’d see that the bar was travelling in a normal plane of motion. If the guy in your video tried to do the same motion with a 90 degree angle in his hips the video would be a lot different. [/quote]
Buuullllllshit. I’ve done rows both ways, as done in the vid I posted and with the exaggerated arch and could pull good weight on both. It is now apparent you have not even done the rows this way and your being ridiculous. Stop blowing smoke.
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Good for you
[quote]Josher wrote:
You failed to answer a couple points I queried you on. For instance I asked you what was so comical about scooby’s training age. [/quote]
After 27 years, you would expect someone to have rowed heavy once or twice…
His back doesn’t match the front pic posted after that…
Most of the people doing the judging, have themselves out there to be judged. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
false, you do it in the same fucking paragraph for Christ’s sake. See below.
Logic fail. Not even close to my logic dwag. My logic is: you have no pictures, you don’t have a basis to comment on other peoples progress. If the poster is asking for criticism, fine, if your giving complements, fine. But if you just look to put people down, then well expect to be called on it.
You just love passing judgment on people don’t you?
Did I call Mr. Doo a little bitch? Oh that’s right I said the person YOU were trying to PUT DOWN, who has PICTURES UP, makes Mr. Doo look like a bitch.
No dude, if you are so superior to everyone here, why do you come back after 6 years, only to post inflammatory posts?
Dude, Beans, CALM YOUR ASS DOWN!!! Let it go, brah!
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Your IMMORTAL
Rock it heavy as hell for a couple sets, then slow’er down & squeeze like a madman - be sure to track your progress based on the method that you are using
for example my best set bentover row is 500x8, of course it was somewhat sloppy, that same day i finished up with 135 for 20 reps or so with an exagerrated (s.p.?) stretch & squeeze
there is no best way, just clearly understand your goal & make moves towards it
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
I’m confused as to why everyone has their panties in a bunch here. Please somebody explain the proper way of doing a barbell row.
I’m confused if this is not the right way and if this is not almost exactly what scooby doo was doing.
Besides advocating a his personal preference on rep scheme and low weight I’m lost to why scooby do or op has been flamed here. Sure low weight is going to be flamed… its a bodybuilding forum, guys are lifting heavy and getting big; but I didn’t see anything craaaazy with his form. [/quote]
Do you see the exaggerated arc in the movement on the concentric? and the unnatural movement place on the eccentric?
That is whats being referred to. It would be simply impossible to lift that way and add any sort of weight to the bar. Youd either tip over or be forced to use 40lbs forever.
Pay attention to the details. If the video you posted was shot from the side you’d see that the bar was travelling in a normal plane of motion. If the guy in your video tried to do the same motion with a 90 degree angle in his hips the video would be a lot different. [/quote]
Buuullllllshit. I’ve done rows both ways, as done in the vid I posted and with the exaggerated arch and could pull good weight on both. It is now apparent you have not even done the rows this way and your being ridiculous. Stop blowing smoke.
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How much weight are you using? The weight used makes a huge difference. You are not moving a lot of weight @ 90…[/quote]
At least 135lbs for 12+ reps… smart ass.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
Also, regardless of whether or not you think he’s average for someone who’s been lifting for a decade, which is a fact I guess we’re assuming since we don’t know him so who knows how long he’s been lifting. [/quote]
According to his bio, 27 years…[/quote]
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
27 years… lol[/quote]
For perspective, I’ve been training [seriously] for about 3 years.
After 27 years, barring some SERIOUS injuries happening, I’ll be a HELL of a lot stronger and bigger than I am now. If I looked like scooby after 27 years of training, I wouldn’t be ashamed of my physique…but I also wouldn’t be posting instructional videos, when obviously his methods haven’t worked all THAT well after over 2.5 decades of trial and [apparently too much] error.
Read the whole thread. CountingBeans you got totally owned by the way.
Scooby’s vids are aimed at absolute beginners, bear that in mind. Also anyone who doesnt think he has an incredible physique at his age is a total retard.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
Also, regardless of whether or not you think he’s average for someone who’s been lifting for a decade, which is a fact I guess we’re assuming since we don’t know him so who knows how long he’s been lifting. [/quote]
According to his bio, 27 years…[/quote]
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
27 years… lol[/quote]
For perspective, I’ve been training [seriously] for about 3 years.
After 27 years, barring some SERIOUS injuries happening, I’ll be a HELL of a lot stronger and bigger than I am now. If I looked like scooby after 27 years of training, I wouldn’t be ashamed of my physique…but I also wouldn’t be posting instructional videos, when obviously his methods haven’t worked all THAT well after over 2.5 decades of trial and [apparently too much] error. [/quote]
I don’t mean this in a way that’s hating on you at all, I respect the fuck out of the work you’ve done and the shit you post on this site, but this [x years seriously] shit is so bleh(not just you, it’s something that gets plastered all over this place).
Maybe this guy was a marathon runner for 10 years and counts that as part of his 27 years of training, maybe he had testicular cancer in his early 40s and that physique is the pinnacle of his recovery and a beacon to the glories of HRT.
I don’t mean to sound like this guys build is the end all be all, but c’mon he’s catching more flak than he deserves(the row form criticism: warranted, knocking his build that roybot posted a page ago at 49 years old? not so much).
[quote]red04 wrote:
Maybe this guy was a marathon runner for 10 years and counts that as part of his 27 years of training, maybe he had testicular cancer in his early 40s and that physique is the pinnacle of his recovery and a beacon to the glories of HRT.[/quote]
Click on any of the Youtube links in this thread. Under the vid, you’ll find a link to his website; there you’ll find his bio - he mentions no illnesses or setbacks. I did post the link but it was removed, probably because he’s making money out of it somewhere.
I haven’t commented on his build up until now, but it’s open season as far as I’m concerned because he’s telling beginners that they can achieve what he has through home workouts, when there is visual proof on his website that he works out in a commercial gym (look at the pic I posted: there is a towel on the bench behind him so it’s not a publicity shot).
[quote]roybot wrote:
I haven’t commented on his build up until now, but it’s open season as far as I’m concerned because he’s telling beginners that they can achieve what he has through home workouts, when there is visual proof on his website that he works out in a commercial gym (look at the pic I posted: there is a towel on the bench behind him so it’s not a publicity shot).
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Very good point.
[quote]roybot wrote:
I haven’t commented on his build up until now, but it’s open season as far as I’m concerned because he’s telling beginners that they can achieve what he has through home workouts, when there is visual proof on his website that he works out in a commercial gym (look at the pic I posted: there is a towel on the bench behind him so it’s not a publicity shot).
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Ok I’ll give you that, so we are all in agreement his advice blows and he should tell people how he ACTUALLY got to look like he does. I just thought it seemed like people didn’t think he looked good(to be fair the majority of those comments were after the youtube screencap of his back which wasn’t ‘omg impressive’).
Lol I didn’t say he looks bad. He doesn’t, especially for his age. BUT were he the expert he seems to think he is, you would expect him to look better than “good”.
And there’s also the point about him being misleading. That’s just complete BS, telling raw beginners (supposedly his target audience?) to lift a certain way for ideal gains, then not even train yourself that same way…when the way he’s telling them to train isn’t even optimal by any standards.
Just another guy in good enough shape to fool novices into believing him, but not good enough to impress anybody with real experience.
[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
I haven’t commented on his build up until now, but it’s open season as far as I’m concerned because he’s telling beginners that they can achieve what he has through home workouts, when there is visual proof on his website that he works out in a commercial gym (look at the pic I posted: there is a towel on the bench behind him so it’s not a publicity shot).
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Ok I’ll give you that, so we are all in agreement his advice blows and he should tell people how he ACTUALLY got to look like he does. I just thought it seemed like people didn’t think he looked good(to be fair the majority of those comments were after the youtube screencap of his back which wasn’t ‘omg impressive’).[/quote]
No need to give anything to me. I’m not trying to score points. I just did some research on the guy and found out that he didn’t get where he is by using the methods he promotes in his Youtube vids. So he is not above criticism as some would believe.
[quote]Live4Deadlift wrote:
Read the whole thread. CountingBeans you got totally owned by the way.
Scooby’s vids are aimed at absolute beginners, bear that in mind. Also anyone who doesnt think he has an incredible physique at his age is a total retard. [/quote]
LOL - random maggot crawls out of the woodwork to referee an argument, when every regular member here knows that Josher was being a twat for the sake of it.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Live4Deadlift wrote:
Read the whole thread. CountingBeans you got totally owned by the way.
Scooby’s vids are aimed at absolute beginners, bear that in mind. Also anyone who doesnt think he has an incredible physique at his age is a total retard. [/quote]
LOL - random maggot crawls out of the woodwork to referee an argument, when every regular member here knows that Josher was being a twat for the sake of it.[/quote]
Hahahaha! Well played sir, well played
[quote]Fallen wrote:
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
i’m still not convinced that the video is meant to be serious. if it is… damn. [/quote]
It is…
if youre an ab/soy wonder boy[/quote]
Soy milk is actually really rich in taste, particularly the vanilla flavor.
[quote]Stength4life wrote:
[quote]Fallen wrote:
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
i’m still not convinced that the video is meant to be serious. if it is… damn. [/quote]
It is…
if youre an ab/soy wonder boy[/quote]
Soy milk is actually really rich in taste, particularly the vanilla flavor.[/quote]
Does it remind you of something else “rich in taste”?
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
Also, regardless of whether or not you think he’s average for someone who’s been lifting for a decade, which is a fact I guess we’re assuming since we don’t know him so who knows how long he’s been lifting. [/quote]
According to his bio, 27 years…[/quote]
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
27 years… lol[/quote]
For perspective, I’ve been training [seriously] for about 3 years.
After 27 years, barring some SERIOUS injuries happening, I’ll be a HELL of a lot stronger and bigger than I am now. If I looked like scooby after 27 years of training, I wouldn’t be ashamed of my physique…but I also wouldn’t be posting instructional videos, when obviously his methods haven’t worked all THAT well after over 2.5 decades of trial and [apparently too much] error. [/quote]
Did you ever contemplate that he reached his ideal body goals or his perceived genetic peak and was/is happy with maintaining his physique? Also you do realize the general process of aging once you reach the age of 30 makes it more difficult to make gains and maintain what you do have? Have a look around at bodybuilders from the past vs their present states, how many of them are bigger and stronger than they used to be in their 20s and 30s? I’m willing to bet none or very, very few.
You sound bit naive to me. Weightlifting and bodybuilding isn’t some linear progressive path where you continually progress at the same rate.
Regarding his videos, why shouldn’t he post them? You talk like he has no right too spread his enthusiasm for fitness b/c of his “piddly” progress. Get real. Lots of coaches and trainers look less impressive than he does, combine that with the fact that it’s kind of obvious his target audience is beginners, and I’d say he deserves some gratitude for spreading his love of fitness.