[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
Also, regardless of whether or not you think he’s average for someone who’s been lifting for a decade, which is a fact I guess we’re assuming since we don’t know him so who knows how long he’s been lifting. [/quote]
According to his bio, 27 years…[/quote]
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
27 years… lol
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
27 years… lol[/quote]
…and Josher still hasn’t given his opinion on whether he thinks Scooby’s form is good or not. Too busy hurling abuse. I first stumbled across Scooby’s Youtube vids about a year ago: he seems like a nice guy enough with genuine intentions, but his training methods are like something Willy Wonka would cook up:
I think it’s safe to say that he didn’t use a pulley system to develop pull-up strength as a 23 year old. This is from a guy who supposedly teaches from “experience”…
I’m willing to bet that he’s spent his fair share of time in a fully-equipped gym, too.
Yes, he must’ve built his physique thru years of home workouts using basic equipment like he’s telling everybody else to do. That’s why he’s standing in a fucking gym.
Also, I don’t believe that he follows the diet he advocates (low cal zero fat). You can’t possibly eat stricter than that, you’d think he would be near contest ripped… instead you can’t even see his abs. He’s either lying thru his teeth or has the worst metabolism ever.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
I’m confused as to why everyone has their panties in a bunch here.
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Cause this site is full of attention whoring losers that have nothing better to do then criticize everyone but themselves.
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Then feel free to GTFO josher. You contribute fucking zero to this place, so shut the fuck up about people that actually do.
You never post shit, you don’t buy shit, so get the fuck out.
There, everyone’s problem is solved.[/quote]
So that disqualifies me from having an opinion does it? Last time I checked the agreement to join this site wasn’t dependent on purchasing merchandise or maintaining a post quota per month with a bunch of drivel. You’re just upset I’ve disrupted the groupthink that goes on around here.
I’ve been here longer than you anyway, so why don’t you shut your pie hole and go suck a dick like I know you’re yearning too. [/quote]
A gay joke? Are you in highschool still?
LOL
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Just taking it to the level of immaturity you first initiated with the personal insults.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
Also, regardless of whether or not you think he’s average for someone who’s been lifting for a decade, which is a fact I guess we’re assuming since we don’t know him so who knows how long he’s been lifting. [/quote]
According to his bio, 27 years…[/quote]
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
27 years… lol[/quote]
Why do you find this so comical? What’s comical is that you guys think he looks weak and small, when he looks better than you do. Like I said before, regardless of his training age, he still looks pretty good, and anyone who states otherwise is full of shit.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
27 years… lol[/quote]
…and Josher still hasn’t given his opinion on whether he thinks Scooby’s form is good or not. Too busy hurling abuse. I first stumbled across Scooby’s Youtube vids about a year ago: he seems like a nice guy enough with genuine intentions, but his training methods are like something Willy Wonka would cook up:
I think it’s safe to say that he didn’t use a pulley system to develop pull-up strength as a 23 year old. This is from a guy who supposedly teaches from “experience”…
I’m willing to bet that he’s spent his fair share of time in a fully-equipped gym, too.[/quote]
Why do you care what I think of his form? Personally I don’t lift like that, but like everything else, it can have its time and place depending on circumstance and situation.
Hurling abuse? If people are going to sit around mocking others for no reason, they ought to expect something in return.
[quote]Josher wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
I’m confused as to why everyone has their panties in a bunch here.
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Cause this site is full of attention whoring losers that have nothing better to do then criticize everyone but themselves.
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Then feel free to GTFO josher. You contribute fucking zero to this place, so shut the fuck up about people that actually do.
You never post shit, you don’t buy shit, so get the fuck out.
There, everyone’s problem is solved.[/quote]
So that disqualifies me from having an opinion does it? Last time I checked the agreement to join this site wasn’t dependent on purchasing merchandise or maintaining a post quota per month with a bunch of drivel. You’re just upset I’ve disrupted the groupthink that goes on around here.
I’ve been here longer than you anyway, so why don’t you shut your pie hole and go suck a dick like I know you’re yearning too. [/quote]
A gay joke? Are you in highschool still?
LOL
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Just taking it to the level of immaturity you first initiated with the personal insults. [/quote]
How can you suck a dick with a closed piehole?
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
I’m confused as to why everyone has their panties in a bunch here.
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Cause this site is full of attention whoring losers that have nothing better to do then criticize everyone but themselves.
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Then feel free to GTFO josher. You contribute fucking zero to this place, so shut the fuck up about people that actually do.
You never post shit, you don’t buy shit, so get the fuck out.
There, everyone’s problem is solved.[/quote]
So that disqualifies me from having an opinion does it? Last time I checked the agreement to join this site wasn’t dependent on purchasing merchandise or maintaining a post quota per month with a bunch of drivel. You’re just upset I’ve disrupted the groupthink that goes on around here.
I’ve been here longer than you anyway, so why don’t you shut your pie hole and go suck a dick like I know you’re yearning too. [/quote]
A gay joke? Are you in highschool still?
LOL
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Just taking it to the level of immaturity you first initiated with the personal insults. [/quote]
How can you suck a dick with a closed piehole?[/quote]
Well if you’re going to take that statement literally, he would first stop talking to me like a tough guy telling me to gtfo just b/c he doesn’t agree with me, and can’t find something else semi intelligent to say thereby closing his piehole; and second he would then go out and find a dick to suck on since I imagine him to be a self hating fag, which might explain the hostility towards me.
Wow all this because of a video. Humans are a funny bunch.
[quote]Josher wrote:
Why do you care what I think of his form? [/quote]
I “care” because that’s what the thread is about in case you hadn’t noticed, and that’s the one thing you didn’t comment on…
[quote]Josher wrote:
Well if you’re going to take that statement literally, he would first stop talking to me like a tough guy telling me to gtfo just b/c he doesn’t agree with me, and can’t find something else semi intelligent to say thereby closing his piehole; and second he would then go out and find a dick to suck on since I imagine him to be a self hating fag, which might explain the hostility towards me.
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You have no basis to comment on anyone’s build because you are a faceless coward, oops I mean anonymous poster.
You complained about the posters here, I offered you a solution to your problem. Please point out where I put you or the Scooby Doo down. I don’t care that you don’t agree with me or anyone. I offered you a solution to your problem, and also pointed out that H$M has a much better back that Scoobs. But if you hate it here so much, and the posters, seeing as you don’t contribute ANYTHING to the forum or company, why stay?
Again with the gay jokes? Dude, can you please, for the love of Christ come up with an interesting insult. I don’t even have to respond, because you are making yourself look so foolish, you are doing my job for me.
Ironic you calling me a tough guy, when you are the one that galloped into this thread acting like a keyboard warrior.
Im serious, are you even out of high school yet?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
Well if you’re going to take that statement literally, he would first stop talking to me like a tough guy telling me to gtfo just b/c he doesn’t agree with me, and can’t find something else semi intelligent to say thereby closing his piehole; and second he would then go out and find a dick to suck on since I imagine him to be a self hating fag, which might explain the hostility towards me.
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You have no basis to comment on anyone’s build because you are a faceless coward, oops I mean anonymous poster.
You complained about the posters here, I offered you a solution to your problem. Please point out where I put you or the Scooby Doo down. I don’t care that you don’t agree with me or anyone. I offered you a solution to your problem, and also pointed out that H$M has a much better back that Scoobs. But if you hate it here so much, and the posters, seeing as you don’t contribute ANYTHING to the forum or company, why stay?
Again with the gay jokes? Dude, can you please, for the love of Christ come up with an interesting insult. I don’t even have to respond, because you are making yourself look so foolish, you are doing my job for me.
Ironic you calling me a tough guy, when you are the one that galloped into this thread acting like a keyboard warrior.
Im serious, are you even out of high school yet? [/quote]
1 - I can say whatever I want, there is no rule that I need to post a pic to post here, that’s why all you elitists have the t cell alpha, so you can stroke one another’s egos privately without the regular users chiming in.
I’m actually surprised anyone posts pics here and personal info in their profiles, there really isn’t much of anything to gain from it, I’m certainly not here to network with other users and make internet friends with people thousands of miles away, so why would I post a pic and tell you all about my life?
2 - I didn’t say I hated it here or complain about anyone, go back and reread it if you can’t figure that out. I offered up my observation to answer a question from another poster named Deorum asking “I’m confused as to why everyone has their panties in a bunch here.”
You then told me to gtfo b/c you became offended that I pointed out the obvious. In case you forgot the site has lots of articles, which I like to read from time to time, and I find the forums as a source of entertainment.
3 - You’re the one that’s foolish for trying to pass off your “suggestion” as anything but an insult. Gay jokes are every other post on these forums, so why are you so surprised I made one?
4 - Yes you are acting like a tough guy by initiating the personal insults towards me. I made an amusing statement based on my observations in response to a question, that you became outrageously offended by. Did I really hurt your feelings that much that you want me to leave the site?
[quote]Josher wrote:
4 - Yes you are acting like a tough guy by initiating the personal insults towards me. [/quote]
LOL, dawg it is becoming ever more obvious that you wouldn’t even understand half of my insults if I were to start insulting you. Seriously, as a high school student you really shouldn’t be so upset by people’s personality in their posts.
You sounded very angry and offended by everyone’s reaction to the scoobster. I was just trying to help you. Nice to know you just leach off the articles though. I don’t even read them myself.
But fuck it, if you really want to take my first statement towards you as an insult, than feel free.
I gave up arguing with the delusional awhile ago. (That was an insult, BTW.)
I’m not offended dude. You came in, gunz blazing, acting all e-tough… Gonna show these losers whatzup. I just didn’t give you the response you were looking for. It’s okay you know, everything is going to be all right.
[quote]Did I really hurt your feelings that much that you want me to leave the site?
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No, I find your infantile gay jokes nothing more than passing ignorance. I have found, that when an individual’s ability to insult begins and ends with an attack on someone’s sexuality, that individual typically lacks the capacity to truly entertain me.
I mean, I know your struggling over there, so I’ll tell ya what…
You can have the last word and talk about putting cocks in my mouth, and taking it in the ass all day.
Enjoy man, make it a real winner.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Josher wrote:
4 - Yes you are acting like a tough guy by initiating the personal insults towards me. [/quote]
LOL, dawg it is becoming ever more obvious that you wouldn’t even understand half of my insults if I were to start insulting you. Seriously, as a high school student you really shouldn’t be so upset by people’s personality in their posts.
You sounded very angry and offended by everyone’s reaction to the scoobster. I was just trying to help you. Nice to know you just leach off the articles though. I don’t even read them myself.
But fuck it, if you really want to take my first statement towards you as an insult, than feel free.
I gave up arguing with the delusional awhile ago. (That was an insult, BTW.)
I’m not offended dude. You came in, gunz blazing, acting all e-tough… Gonna show these losers whatzup. I just didn’t give you the response you were looking for. It’s okay you know, everything is going to be all right.
[quote]Did I really hurt your feelings that much that you want me to leave the site?
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No, I find your infantile gay jokes nothing more than passing ignorance. I have found, that when an individual’s ability to insult begins and ends with an attack on someone’s sexuality, that individual typically lacks the capacity to truly entertain me.
I mean, I know your struggling over there, so I’ll tell ya what…
You can have the last word and talk about putting cocks in my mouth, and taking it in the ass all day.
Enjoy man, make it a real winner.[/quote]
How noble of you to give me the last word. I’d probably say the same thing too if I didn’t have any valid points and wanted an exit out of the argument like you clearly do. You continue to dance around, while I address your posts directly point for point, so I understand you searching for an exit.
CAll it what you want, but anyone stating a “suggestion” of:
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Then feel free to GTFO josher. You contribute fucking zero to this place, so shut the fuck up about people that actually do.
You never post shit, you don’t buy shit, so get the fuck out. [/quote]
…is clearly upset and making a personal attack towards me. The fact that you are arguing that you are trying to help me out with this statement is laughable. Sure I took it as an insult, much like you took my initial amusing statement directed at no one in particular as an insult.
Why? I duno since it was no where near directed at you, but you obviously were offended, otherwise you wouldn’t have called me out in a personal attack in the first place. And as far as angry goes, I’m not sure how you interpreted a musing jab at no one in particular as me being angry. You clearly are the one that is angry, just reread your initial post to me dropping multiple f bombs, if that isn’t an angry person, I duno what is.
I find it amusing that you think my joke is ignorant given the nature of the forums and the majority of your juvenile posts.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
I’m confused as to why everyone has their panties in a bunch here. Please somebody explain the proper way of doing a barbell row.
I’m confused if this is not the right way and if this is not almost exactly what scooby doo was doing.
Besides advocating a his personal preference on rep scheme and low weight I’m lost to why scooby do or op has been flamed here. Sure low weight is going to be flamed… its a bodybuilding forum, guys are lifting heavy and getting big; but I didn’t see anything craaaazy with his form. [/quote]
Do you see the exaggerated arc in the movement on the concentric? and the unnatural movement place on the eccentric?
That is whats being referred to. It would be simply impossible to lift that way and add any sort of weight to the bar. Youd either tip over or be forced to use 40lbs forever.
Pay attention to the details. If the video you posted was shot from the side you’d see that the bar was travelling in a normal plane of motion. If the guy in your video tried to do the same motion with a 90 degree angle in his hips the video would be a lot different. [/quote]
Buuullllllshit. I’ve done rows both ways, as done in the vid I posted and with the exaggerated arch and could pull good weight on both. It is now apparent you have not even done the rows this way and your being ridiculous. Stop blowing smoke.
What argument am I (obviously not anymore) backing out of? What points am I dancing around? Are we reading the same thread?
You feel, as a faceless coward, it is okay to bash others. I don’t feel you should be able to do so, so I spoke up. (And for someone that supposedly knows my post history, you would know I use fuck more often than a preacher uses Jesus. So fail on the upset point. I use fuck when I’m fucking happy too…)
Then you made some ignorant remarks, and this just stopped being fun…
Dude your posts scream “I’m too good for this place and you losers.” So why continue? You trolled this thread, I reacted, as usual, and now you have what you want… So go away already and be superior elsewhere.
Plus I took a shit load of caffeine and am really board right now… You’re as entertaining as anything else now that you dropped the shitty gay attacks.
“So im gonna bring my body up, not parallel, Higher ya? So, that puts your back in a safer position, and also puts your lats in a mechanically strong position. Im not doing it to the chest, im not trying to train my traps and rhomboids. Im still working my lats, so im bringing it to my waist.”
-Dorian Yates
Dorian yates training Kai greene, and currently doing Barbell rows, 4 weeks out from the Arnold this year. That is from King Back himself. I dont see how this debate can go any further…
[quote]Deorum wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
I’m confused as to why everyone has their panties in a bunch here. Please somebody explain the proper way of doing a barbell row.
I’m confused if this is not the right way and if this is not almost exactly what scooby doo was doing.
Besides advocating a his personal preference on rep scheme and low weight I’m lost to why scooby do or op has been flamed here. Sure low weight is going to be flamed… its a bodybuilding forum, guys are lifting heavy and getting big; but I didn’t see anything craaaazy with his form. [/quote]
Do you see the exaggerated arc in the movement on the concentric? and the unnatural movement place on the eccentric?
That is whats being referred to. It would be simply impossible to lift that way and add any sort of weight to the bar. Youd either tip over or be forced to use 40lbs forever.
Pay attention to the details. If the video you posted was shot from the side you’d see that the bar was travelling in a normal plane of motion. If the guy in your video tried to do the same motion with a 90 degree angle in his hips the video would be a lot different. [/quote]
Buuullllllshit. I’ve done rows both ways, as done in the vid I posted and with the exaggerated arch and could pull good weight on both. It is now apparent you have not even done the rows this way and your being ridiculous. Stop blowing smoke.
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How much weight are you using? The weight used makes a huge difference. You are not moving a lot of weight @ 90…