Is SquatDr a Fraud?

Training Powerlifting
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I have pmed both squatdr and adarqui before and both were very nice and helpfull (its not relevant but says about character). As far as numbers I tend to not believe pretty much anyone after hearing ppls 350-400 squats and then seeing not even a quarter squat in person, or checking out peoples so called 37-38 inch verticals (sometimes it seems like people just pick a random number as to how high they think they jump).

On top of that for squats at least there are powerlifting competitions so if someone squated y amount in a competition I don’t have any reason to doubt them, however no comp for vertical jump and all the tests are done by strength coaches of the athletes who obviously have quite a bit to gain from inflated numbers as a result it got out of hand with everyone having a 40 inch verts.

Hell when I test my vertical on different equipment I always get a different reading between 2 to 3 inches which is pretty significant as far as vertical goes and I am just testing it for myself so I got nothing to gain.

Having said all that when a person claims world record performance outside of competition in any event, a lot of backing up needs to be done with a ton different angles to even be considered real.

On the other hand I don’t care all that much what the guy really jumps (slightly because it would be nice to know what a world record would really be but like I said there are no competitions therefor no two peoples results would be the same), I don’t know him, he is not my coach, and the stuff I asked him about had nothing to do with vertical jumping or even training.

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[quote]Eielson wrote:
You guys exaggerate like little children. Work on that and maybe people will take you more seriously. “This is the most retard post I’ve ever read,” “this guy did 1 minute of research,” “some guy says ya i saw him jump 800 inches.”

Anyway, I’ve made this thread a much bigger issue than it ever should have been, so I’m done. You can go back to your little website and make believe that you have the best forum on the internet. Good luck with your training.[/quote]

my forum fucking sucks right now… and im not being sarcastic.

edit: i thought you were talking about MY ACTUAL WEBSITE… not TVS… but i realize you were talking about TVS… yes you are right TVS is teh awesome.

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Statistically a 50 SVJ seems unlikely, but that one photo with his head up to the rim is pretty convincing. The rim is 120 inches, he is 69 inches. 120 minus 69 = 51. He does appear to be about an inch below so that’s a 50 inch vertical. The rim looks like it’s a legitimate height, but that’s hard to tell. The photoshop guys can tell if a photo has been tampered so I’m assuming that’s fine. The only thing left is was it from a run up or was it standing.

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[quote]Eielson wrote:
AllstarNZ wrote:
Nizar was on the TVS chat just 2 days ago so clearly he checks the site often enough. Kelly Baggett also regulsrly checks. JTrinsey seems to have spurts where he will post frequently then disappear for a while.

Nizar’s last post:
Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:48 am

JT’s last post:
Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:54 am

Kelly Baggett posted once in May, once in March, and then once in September of the previous year.

So like I said, they’re not active.

I know adarqui is legit…I know squatdr is not legit

No, you THINK adarqui is legit, and you THINK squatdr isn’t. You don’t KNOW. Shoot, with all this stuff adarqui is talking about of manipulating pictures and videos…how can you be so sure?[/quote]

They still check the site even if they don’t post heaps and can easily be PM’d for info. Um well the only vids we’ve seen of squatdr are him jumping quite a few feet away from the rim and with the camera basically on the ground making it look like his head is at the rim, him doing a drop step jump which is clearly only upto about his waist (probably not even 40"), and a quick flash of a hand touching the top of the square which could have been anyones hand or on a lowered rim or jumping off something etc. And the lies about the interview person being 90mins late when she wasn’t late at all and claiming he did 20 standing verts, but the reporter says he did not do one. How can you not doubt any of that?

[quote]Eielson wrote:
You guys exaggerate like little children. Work on that and maybe people will take you more seriously. “This is the most retard post I’ve ever read,” “this guy did 1 minute of research,” “some guy says ya i saw him jump 800 inches.”

Anyway, I’ve made this thread a much bigger issue than it ever should have been, so I’m done. You can go back to your little website and make believe that you have the best forum on the internet. Good luck with your training.[/quote]

I don’t know why you are so stressy about this. Talk about a seriously disgruntled former vertical jump guy.

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So an over 4 foot vertical jump and 700+lb squats at just over 200lbs and with no real vids or proof. All of this and he doesn’t compete in the olympics or at least go take a bunch PL records?

I don’t know guys, if it smells like shit…

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[quote]bluejay wrote:
Eielson wrote:
So let me get this straight. SquatDr has video, you just don’t think it’s legit?

I think that there are only photos of the 50.5" vertical day. I believe that the pics released were not of the vertec tests but of a jump afterwards. The videos are of lower jumps which if they are 40"-45" they are still frickin’ ridiculously good. I think the questions are directed at the fact that there is not a video in circulation of the 50.5" standing vertical jump.[/quote]

Make sure to keep us updated when you go out there.

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[quote]coffee wrote:
So an over 4 foot vertical jump and 700+lb squats at just over 200lbs and with no real vids or proof. All of this and he doesn’t compete in the olympics or at least go take a bunch PL records?

I don’t know guys, if it smells like shit…[/quote]

Why the hell should he post video? Do you have youtube video of yourself in the gym? If not, all your posts here are bullshit right? If you or anyone else want proof so bad, get in touch with him and go do a workout with him.

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[quote]leaftye wrote:
coffee wrote:
So an over 4 foot vertical jump and 700+lb squats at just over 200lbs and with no real vids or proof. All of this and he doesn’t compete in the olympics or at least go take a bunch PL records?

I don’t know guys, if it smells like shit…

Why the hell should he post video? Do you have youtube video of yourself in the gym? If not, all your posts here are bullshit right? If you or anyone else want proof so bad, get in touch with him and go do a workout with him.
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Coffee isn’t claiming records.

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[quote]leaftye wrote:
coffee wrote:
So an over 4 foot vertical jump and 700+lb squats at just over 200lbs and with no real vids or proof. All of this and he doesn’t compete in the olympics or at least go take a bunch PL records?

I don’t know guys, if it smells like shit…

Why the hell should he post video? Do you have youtube video of yourself in the gym? If not, all your posts here are bullshit right? If you or anyone else want proof so bad, get in touch with him and go do a workout with him.
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Ya, I have a few meet vids out there.

I have never put any thought into this guy if hes fake or not, I just read about him now. Im just saying, someone with that kind of strength should be in the olympics.

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I’m with you there. If he’s for real, he should be competing. Then again, maybe he like where his life is going without competing. As for videos, I’ll probably post some, but only to ask for critique on my form. If this guys claims are true, and there’s already some verification that he still comes close to what may possibly be exaggerations, then it’s VERY unlikely that we can give him any useful advise. Also, while I may post vids, I’ve attained a comfort and profiency with technology due ~10 years as a computer programmer, and a couple years doing CAD before that.

If I wasn’t proficient with computers, I’m certainly not going to bother to figure it out to defend myself to some internet haters that can’t even bother to contact me outside of the internet. Besides, this guy has already posted some videos. Sure, they’re not the easiest videos to use to verify his claims, but then again, if someone has the skill and desire to do a better video shoot, they should get in touch with this guy.

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[quote]leaftye wrote:
I’m with you there. If he’s for real, he should be competing. Then again, maybe he like where his life is going without competing. As for videos, I’ll probably post some, but only to ask for critique on my form. If this guys claims are true, and there’s already some verification that he still comes close to what may possibly be exaggerations, then it’s VERY unlikely that we can give him any useful advise. Also, while I may post vids, I’ve attained a comfort and profiency with technology due ~10 years as a computer programmer, and a couple years doing CAD before that.

If I wasn’t proficient with computers, I’m certainly not going to bother to figure it out to defend myself to some internet haters that can’t even bother to contact me outside of the internet. Besides, this guy has already posted some videos. Sure, they’re not the easiest videos to use to verify his claims, but then again, if someone has the skill and desire to do a better video shoot, they should get in touch with this guy.[/quote]

I’m genuinely curious about this - competing at what? There’s no lucrative vertical jump competitions (that I know of), and powerlifting isn’t a hugely profitable activity either. I may be wrong on both counts, just asking tho.

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[quote]leaftye wrote:
I’m with you there. If he’s for real, he should be competing. Then again, maybe he like where his life is going without competing. As for videos, I’ll probably post some, but only to ask for critique on my form. If this guys claims are true, and there’s already some verification that he still comes close to what may possibly be exaggerations, then it’s VERY unlikely that we can give him any useful advise. Also, while I may post vids, I’ve attained a comfort and profiency with technology due ~10 years as a computer programmer, and a couple years doing CAD before that.

If I wasn’t proficient with computers, I’m certainly not going to bother to figure it out to defend myself to some internet haters that can’t even bother to contact me outside of the internet. Besides, this guy has already posted some videos. Sure, they’re not the easiest videos to use to verify his claims, but then again, if someone has the skill and desire to do a better video shoot, they should get in touch with this guy.[/quote]

it’s obviously not hard to figure out how to provide legitimate video:

  • camera at side angle (or any angle really, just not some crazy shady angle or only showing your hand)
  • jump on vertec (standing 50" or running 55.5")
  • throw in an 11’7 broad jump while you’re at it.

end of story.

he already has video though (edit: of his 50"/55.5" testing), so he claims… so i don’t get your post.

peace

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why the hell do all those freaks care about their vertical so much

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I don’t get why your going so hard tryin to discredit someone u met over the internet.

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[quote]ghost412 wrote:
I don’t get why your going so hard tryin to discredit someone u met over the internet.[/quote]

phone call lasted 5 minutes, other stuff was from observations over the last 2 years… typing up the thread took a few minutes… posting it (on the other forum) - a few seconds.

nothing hard about it…

peace

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[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
leaftye wrote:
I’m with you there. If he’s for real, he should be competing. Then again, maybe he like where his life is going without competing. As for videos, I’ll probably post some, but only to ask for critique on my form. If this guys claims are true, and there’s already some verification that he still comes close to what may possibly be exaggerations, then it’s VERY unlikely that we can give him any useful advise. Also, while I may post vids, I’ve attained a comfort and profiency with technology due ~10 years as a computer programmer, and a couple years doing CAD before that.

If I wasn’t proficient with computers, I’m certainly not going to bother to figure it out to defend myself to some internet haters that can’t even bother to contact me outside of the internet. Besides, this guy has already posted some videos. Sure, they’re not the easiest videos to use to verify his claims, but then again, if someone has the skill and desire to do a better video shoot, they should get in touch with this guy.

I’m genuinely curious about this - competing at what? There’s no lucrative vertical jump competitions (that I know of), and powerlifting isn’t a hugely profitable activity either. I may be wrong on both counts, just asking tho.
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He could try his hand in bobsleigh, high jump, long jump, maybe even some pole vault. With quite possibly the biggest raw squat in all of powerlifting at his weight, and his maybe best in the world VJ, you would think he could find something. Im just sayin.

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[quote]ekrim wrote:
why the hell do all those freaks care about their vertical so much[/quote]

What kind of stupid question is that?

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The videos that were posted here are clearly distorted by angles and where he takes off. When he’s running face on to the basket he takes off WAY short of the rim. Combine that with the camera angle and viola, you get his head near the rim. Same goes for the side shot except he’s moving way to the right side of the rim.

Not saying he doesn’t have an impressive jump, don’t care either way, but the videos are not proving anything positive at this point. It’s simple. Place camera at rim height, easy enough to do, and film the jumping. That will squash any debates.

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[quote]ginroth wrote:
As I’m sure most of you have heard, there is a white guy on this forum who posts under the name “SquatDr”, he inspires many with his claims of a 50" standing vert and 55.5" running vert, but does recent evidence prove him to be a fraud?

Is SquatDr a fraud? You decide.[/quote]

Myself and a guy by the name of Adam own TVS. SquatDr. is one hell of a great guy! He is for real, is an OUTSTANDING ATHLETE and for free comes on our site to anwser everyones many many questions for free. SquatDr. is for real. He’s a trainer out in SD.

Ginroth, what is your username on TVS?

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SD as in South Dakota or San Diego? If San Diego, I might like to check out how he works out myself.