Don't Want to Live Anymore..

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duhhh guys…he said he’s been bullied…of course he’s going to want to feel aggressive…and not just to that…but aggressive in all walks to go in any situation and be ASSERTIVE with actions and the way he wants to talk etc etc.

Listen man bodybuilding isn’t everything…why don’t you post some stats…pictures…height, weight…lots of guys here to help man…I think you are being serious, I just got a feeling you aren’t a guy at a computer with his friends saying…look at all these guys postin about this shit…I really think you are being serious cause I KNOW there are OTHER GUYS out there that feel exactly how you feel…you’ve just chosen this site to express that cause you have no-one to talk to and feel like you are on the brink and don’t want to try anymore.

For real though, the sport of bodybuilding isn’t the end all be all. Just do YOUR BEST, don’t sweat those dudes in the magazines man…lots of girls don’t even like that shit bein huge and veiny. Like another poster said as well…you can be passionate about it…but if it is not your thing then it isn’t. I have a passion for a couple of things…I mean big time…but you know what man…it might not work out for me at all and I might fail huge…but I can’t fear that failure…I will fear if I never tried at all and asked myself what would have happened. I rather be a HAS BEEN then a NEVER BEEN. So man give it your best shot…get yourself some good education, make as much money as you can and live the best life you can…later you can spread your wealth of knowledge and give to others who seek help.

If you gotta talk man, shoot me a PM.

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Have you considered crack cocaine? I’ve heard this miraculous drug not only gives individuals the will to live, but it even motivates them to go out and take what they want to make sure they get more!

Seriously though, even crack would be better than suicide. Just take some time to step back and look at your whole situation. Off’ing yourself isn’t going to solve anything and would be selfish. Think of your family and how they’re gonna be devastated. Suck it up and push through for them if for nothing else.

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[quote]htargett wrote:
If the OP wanted to look like a runner, he wouldn’t be commenting on his lack of bodybuilding progress. [/quote]

Just because you run doesn’t mean you look like a runner.

Running can help clear your head and also i have found with myself if i run about twice a week (HIIT)i maximize my the appearance of my muscle gains as i keep unnecessary fat to a minimum.

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[quote]Animal Within wrote:

[quote]htargett wrote:
If the OP wanted to look like a runner, he wouldn’t be commenting on his lack of bodybuilding progress. [/quote]

Just because you run doesn’t mean you look like a runner.

Running can help clear your head and also i have found with myself if i run about twice a week (HIIT)i maximize my the appearance of my muscle gains as i keep unnecessary fat to a minimum.[/quote]

That’s a good point. I just felt that the dude who was talking about running was encouraging the OP to give up bodybuilding completely and become a runner. But hey, this is meaningless debate in this context.

I hope the OP is okay, as he hasn’t posted in a while.

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[quote]Unknown0 wrote:
I’ve been on this site for years trying to follow the advice given in order to suceed at my passion which is bodybuilding, but now i’m beginning to think i’ll never get anywhere with the shit genetics I have. Time after time i’ve failed at everything; making friends,sports,girls, I was a loser in high school and still am due to my lack of success at anything, now that I’ve realized i have horrible genetics for something I’m so passionate about, I just don’t want to go on living anymore, since I feel that I really am a loser for not being able to attain my physique and strength goals due to naturally low test levels and genetics.

Bodybuilding means everything to me, its the only thing thats ever given me even the slightest bit of confidence and reason for living. Growing up I’ve been bullied and been dominated at every point, I’ve never been aggressive and always felt like a coward. I thought bodybuilding would change all that, but nothings changed I’ve only succeeded in getting fatter with small strength gains that come along with every 3-4 lbs I put on, while suffering from depression. I just hate myself for not having the kind genetics that can help me become the kind of person I want to become physically and mentally strong and aggressive when I need to be while be going confident around women.

I just can’t bring myself to do anything anymore, I went into this sport because I figured if I was doomed to be anti-social and awkward around others the least I could do was just make myself bigger and stronger so no one would push me around like they did back in high school, I even went so far as to put my post-secondary education on hold just so i could eat and weight lift while going to work only twice a week, but I’ve still failed[/quote]

do you like going to the gym and bodybuilding? if not, why are you doing it? if so, why are you complaining?

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OP how old are you?

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[quote]Standard Donkey wrote:

[quote]OklahomaHoss wrote:
common sense makes me think that no one could POSSIBLY a big enough douche to troll about something as serious and personal as thinking of suicide.

[/quote]

welcome to the internet…you must be new here[/quote]

LOL

if the op is serious he should go talk to someone, like his GP,a counselor or a psychologist.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:

Women are probably the root of all problems,

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very true

[/quote]

But they are just so soft,mmmmmm

…I just enjoyed the company of a female friend now I am kinda drunk sitting here naked with a laptop posting some shit She isnt sure what Im doing I am supposed to be looking up the score for LA and OCity She wants to go again

I just told her 10 minutes, she said she wants juice

This is my weirdest post on T-Nation.

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First off, I agree with all the others that say that if you are feeling suicidal, you should seek help.

Second, I believe your post is real - because I know exactly how you feel.

I might even have you beat out of the shit genetics. I’ve got low test, super narrow shoulders and I have an ecto bone structure, but at the same time I’ve never been cut. I’ve always wanted to be a bodybuilder (or at least be somewhat bigger and more cut - I can lower my expectations a bit) but over the last 19 years or so (Yes NINE-TEEN. I’m 34, and started training at 15) I’ve made very little progress. And I’ve tried EVERYTHING to fulfill my passion. I became a personal trainer that specialized in weight training, and I worked as a trainer for 2 years. I learned from the certification I took, I learned more from training so many different people. I learned more again because I met some powerlifters that let me train with them (I’m talking world level team here), and they couched me on the basics (bench, squat, deadlift) for over a year. Later on I worked full time at a vitamin and supplement store for 2 years, and learned everything about supplementation.

Not to mention I read everything I possibly could, and ate as perfect as my budget would allow. And still, I got (almost) nowhere. I remember asking one of the guys for his opinion after the year, and he told me he was simply surprised that I was still there. (because I had made so little progress, and was so obviously not cut out for powerlifting)

Despite my shit genetics, I think they still liked having me on the team because I gave it my all. I mean, I really brought it. They could see I had heart. And I was proud to realize that I had heart as well.

At this time I had been training for about 12 years (off and on, of course). I was up to 210lbs of bodyweight, but I looked shitty! Narrow shoulders and fat. Terrible combination. But I had a 350 deadlift, 240 bench, and a 330 squat. Not great numbers by any means, but they meant something to me.

But I didn’t like how I looked, (I still looked skinny-fat!) so when I moved away for work, I changed things up and trained purely to improve my physique. (lots of shoulders and abs, and I cut my weight way back to about 165) Even at 165 I still didn’t have abs! I was just… Thinner.

But this didn’t work either! It took me years to realize that I personally need to get a little fat in order to get stronger, and I HAVE to get stronger to get bigger. Especially for guys with shit genetics. I was doing too much isolation work, and I was keeping my bodyweight too low. (yes, I learned everything the hard way)

This was 7 years ago. Since then I’ve tried other methods and diets and supplemention. Every year it gets harder. And sometimes I gave up, but I would always come back.

I started thinking steroids are the answer, but I have some liver issues already, so taking good ol’ vitamin “S” probably isn’t such a good idea for me. Who knows though… Maybe in the future I’ll talk to my doctor.

Am I cut out to be a bodybuilder? NO. Maybe a distance runner. Maybe a chess player. Shit, it’s no wonder I turned out to be a computer programmer.

But I don’t give a shit; I am still really am passionate about bodybuilding! Sure it takes me a lot longer to make progress, I have to eat perfect, sleep perfect, supplement with just about everything…

But fuck it. It’s not about comparing myself to Arnold, or even Frank Zane, or even the latest skinny ass actor on the cover of men’s health magazine. It’s about comparing myself to MYSELF.

And fuck everybody else, because I really am passionate about this.

Are YOU REALLY passionate about this? End this thread, start a new one. Post everything; weight, training, experience, diet, supplementation, etc. And then together we will perfect your approach to your passion, and the others here will back you up.

Look, I failed at everything too. I’m broke, suck at my job, have a girlfriend who won’t stop lying to me, and I have zero friends really.

But I go to the gym and bust my balls day in and day out. Sure, I suck at it, but I’m getting better. And at least I’ve got heart.

And guess what? I might just be starting to get somewhere. If you don’t give up, so will you.

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I agree, OP. Please post all your information regarding training and nutrition, and the more experienced members (obviously not me) on this site can give you some quality advice.

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[quote]mithious wrote:
First off, I agree with all the others that say that if you are feeling suicidal, you should seek help.

Second, I believe your post is real - because I know exactly how you feel.

I might even have you beat out of the shit genetics. I’ve got low test, super narrow shoulders and I have an ecto bone structure, but at the same time I’ve never been cut. I’ve always wanted to be a bodybuilder (or at least be somewhat bigger and more cut - I can lower my expectations a bit) but over the last 19 years or so (Yes NINE-TEEN. I’m 34, and started training at 15) I’ve made very little progress. And I’ve tried EVERYTHING to fulfill my passion. I became a personal trainer that specialized in weight training, and I worked as a trainer for 2 years. I learned from the certification I took, I learned more from training so many different people. I learned more again because I met some powerlifters that let me train with them (I’m talking world level team here), and they couched me on the basics (bench, squat, deadlift) for over a year. Later on I worked full time at a vitamin and supplement store for 2 years, and learned everything about supplementation.

Not to mention I read everything I possibly could, and ate as perfect as my budget would allow. And still, I got (almost) nowhere. I remember asking one of the guys for his opinion after the year, and he told me he was simply surprised that I was still there. (because I had made so little progress, and was so obviously not cut out for powerlifting)

Despite my shit genetics, I think they still liked having me on the team because I gave it my all. I mean, I really brought it. They could see I had heart. And I was proud to realize that I had heart as well.

At this time I had been training for about 12 years (off and on, of course). I was up to 210lbs of bodyweight, but I looked shitty! Narrow shoulders and fat. Terrible combination. But I had a 350 deadlift, 240 bench, and a 330 squat. Not great numbers by any means, but they meant something to me.

But I didn’t like how I looked, (I still looked skinny-fat!) so when I moved away for work, I changed things up and trained purely to improve my physique. (lots of shoulders and abs, and I cut my weight way back to about 165) Even at 165 I still didn’t have abs! I was just… Thinner.

But this didn’t work either! It took me years to realize that I personally need to get a little fat in order to get stronger, and I HAVE to get stronger to get bigger. Especially for guys with shit genetics. I was doing too much isolation work, and I was keeping my bodyweight too low. (yes, I learned everything the hard way)

This was 7 years ago. Since then I’ve tried other methods and diets and supplemention. Every year it gets harder. And sometimes I gave up, but I would always come back.

I started thinking steroids are the answer, but I have some liver issues already, so taking good ol’ vitamin “S” probably isn’t such a good idea for me. Who knows though… Maybe in the future I’ll talk to my doctor.

Am I cut out to be a bodybuilder? NO. Maybe a distance runner. Maybe a chess player. Shit, it’s no wonder I turned out to be a computer programmer.

But I don’t give a shit; I am still really am passionate about bodybuilding! Sure it takes me a lot longer to make progress, I have to eat perfect, sleep perfect, supplement with just about everything…

But fuck it. It’s not about comparing myself to Arnold, or even Frank Zane, or even the latest skinny ass actor on the cover of men’s health magazine. It’s about comparing myself to MYSELF.

And fuck everybody else, because I really am passionate about this.

Are YOU REALLY passionate about this? End this thread, start a new one. Post everything; weight, training, experience, diet, supplementation, etc. And then together we will perfect your approach to your passion, and the others here will back you up.

Look, I failed at everything too. I’m broke, suck at my job, have a girlfriend who won’t stop lying to me, and I have zero friends really.

But I go to the gym and bust my balls day in and day out. Sure, I suck at it, but I’m getting better. And at least I’ve got heart.

And guess what? I might just be starting to get somewhere. If you don’t give up, so will you.

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Man fuck…what a post…and much respect for being honest about you´re results and even more respect for you´re passion and dedication.
I havn´t been training for long, 3 years now, and I have to say I don´t get the results other posters are getting and I cant keep up with the standard here, my genetics must suck aswell because after three years training I havn´t reached a 18 inch arm, and altough I grew a bit in the very beginng of training I didn´t blow up like others. All this although I take training and nutrition very serious.
To the OP: Listen to the guys here! Post up you´re training! And get professional help! You can do this!

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[quote]Unknown0 wrote:
I’ve been on this site for years trying to follow the advice given in order to suceed at my passion which is bodybuilding, but now i’m beginning to think i’ll never get anywhere with the shit genetics I have. Time after time i’ve failed at everything; making friends,sports,girls, I was a loser in high school and still am due to my lack of success at anything, now that I’ve realized i have horrible genetics for something I’m so passionate about, I just don’t want to go on living anymore, since I feel that I really am a loser for not being able to attain my physique and strength goals due to naturally low test levels and genetics.

Bodybuilding means everything to me, its the only thing thats ever given me even the slightest bit of confidence and reason for living. Growing up I’ve been bullied and been dominated at every point, I’ve never been aggressive and always felt like a coward. I thought bodybuilding would change all that, but nothings changed I’ve only succeeded in getting fatter with small strength gains that come along with every 3-4 lbs I put on, while suffering from depression. I just hate myself for not having the kind genetics that can help me become the kind of person I want to become physically and mentally strong and aggressive when I need to be while be going confident around women.

I just can’t bring myself to do anything anymore, I went into this sport because I figured if I was doomed to be anti-social and awkward around others the least I could do was just make myself bigger and stronger so no one would push me around like they did back in high school, I even went so far as to put my post-secondary education on hold just so i could eat and weight lift while going to work only twice a week, but I’ve still failed[/quote]

do whatever you want, you are the creator of your own life experience.
Create the you that you prefer!!!

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On the brink. Fuck, man, have I been there. 2lbs on the trigger is the fucking brink.

Things get better when you ditch the idea of giving up, though.

Life is a struggle. Are you gonna win? Lose? Or just lie down and give up?

I wish you the best.

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I find it ironic that this is in the Get a Life section.

Probably not the best site to post this on, even if it is real.

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In case you are a troll, go fuck yourself. That being said, I think you need a reality check. Seriously. I recommend you read Alpha’s rants on this site (He’s a member here, if you’re interested and not just trolling PM me and I’ll post the links). You are not a victim and the world doesn’t owe you anything.

I mean, seriously, you want to kill yourself because you think your fucking genetics suck? There are people out there that have been abused as childs, are disabled in some way (I’m talking about real handicaps here, not bad genetics for BB) or have gone through some REALLY fucked up shit. Many of these people have overcome these things and are now living happy, successful lives. Obviously, your problems don’t compare to the BS these people have gone through. So, why do you think you are so special that your “problems” are so terrible that you’re even thinking of killing yourself? Doing so would be insulting the people who have had real problems and also the people who WANTED to live but had to die for some reason.

I’ve always been short and skinny and a few years ago I was terribly shy. Like, I couldn’t even talk to a girl. I also got bullied. Going out, making friends, reading, training hard and getting better help me to overcome these obstacles. I don’t even feel sorry for myself, as most of these things were MY OWN FAULT. It’s not that I’m a super stud now, but I have many friends, get girls, gain muscle and strength and I love my life. I feel confident about myself. I’m having fun. Wake up man, life is beautiful. Your “problems” aren’t real problems. You can do something about these things.

One more thing I read on some forum: The harder I train and the more I eat, the better my genetics get. For the T, you might want to try Tribulus.

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The facts are really when a person mentions that they are contemplating suicide, they are unlikely to actually commit suicide. It is actually a call for help.

Most people who do attempt suicide fail at it, and many end up with medical problems, and regret for making their life worse.

Many people who fail at suicide remember realizing they had made a mistake after it was, or seemed to be too late.

The children and family members of people who have committed suicide are many more times as likely to commit suicide themselves as a result.

One of the people I respect is Stephen Hawking. Any time I think my life is hard, I think of how hard his life is, and the fact that he has still achieved what he has. He can’t talk, he can’t walk, he can’t feed himself, and hell he can’t even wipe his own ass.

And yet when they thought he was going to die in the hospital, he fought to live, and did. (And more then once.) When I think of all that he has achieved in his life in spite of all his medical problems, I realize how petty my problems are, and how I have no excuses.

Troll or not, there are plenty of people dealing with these issues, every day, and it ain’t a fucking joke.

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[quote]Unknown0 wrote:
I’ve been on this site for years trying to follow the advice given in order to suceed at my passion which is bodybuilding, but now i’m beginning to think i’ll never get anywhere with the shit genetics I have. Time after time i’ve failed at everything; making friends,sports,girls, I was a loser in high school and still am due to my lack of success at anything, now that I’ve realized i have horrible genetics for something I’m so passionate about, I just don’t want to go on living anymore, since I feel that I really am a loser for not being able to attain my physique and strength goals due to naturally low test levels and genetics.

Bodybuilding means everything to me, its the only thing thats ever given me even the slightest bit of confidence and reason for living. Growing up I’ve been bullied and been dominated at every point, I’ve never been aggressive and always felt like a coward. I thought bodybuilding would change all that, but nothings changed I’ve only succeeded in getting fatter with small strength gains that come along with every 3-4 lbs I put on, while suffering from depression.

I just hate myself for not having the kind genetics that can help me become the kind of person I want to become physically and mentally strong and aggressive when I need to be while be going confident around women. I just can’t bring myself to do anything anymore, I went into this sport because I figured if I was doomed to be anti-social and awkward around others the least I could do was just make myself bigger and stronger so no one would push me around like they did back in high school, I even went so far as to put my post-secondary education on hold just so i could eat and weight lift while going to work only twice a week, but I’ve still failed[/quote]

When I was 17 years old I weighed 98lbs, had no friends and dropped out of school due to being bullied on a constant basis. I spent my 18th birthday, alone, sitting at my computer. I could of made a thread like this, easy.

But I didn’t, because I’m not a pussy.

And if you want to get successful at bodybuilding, stop reading bullshit articles on the internet and start listening to IFBB pro bodybuilders.

I.e - 6 meals a day (eggs/oatmeal, steak/rice, chicken/rice, steak/potatoes, fish/potatoes, chicken/brown rice, protein shake/oatmeal)

A 300lb bodybuilder in the offseason would prob have 8 eggs for breakfast and a 1lb of meat at each meal, so why dont you try eating a little over half of that, with 7 eggs for breakfast.

Branch Warren Diet Plan - YouTube (Ignore the supplements)

Train a bodypart every 5-6 days (Chest,Back,Shoulders,Arms,Legs,OFF,Repeat) with 3-5 exercises and 1-2 top working/ball busting sets on each one.

Add in 15min cardio 3-4x a week if you are gaining too much fat for your liking (I don’t do any because I don’t care.)

Fucking SIMPLE.

And if you aren’t gaining strength/size on that, then you know what? You are either a fucking liar (to yourself and us) saying that you did it, or you aren’t using your rage that you have for those who bullied you on the weights in the gym.

I weigh 185lbs in my avatar picture which is about 4 months old, and I weigh 210lbs now. I can bench 315, squat 365 and I rack pulled 500 the other day. I weighed 145lbs 15 months ago, and anyone from my old school wouldn’t dare say shit to me now.

There is one simple solution for you: Grow some fucking balls and man up.

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OP, you can suck my tailpipe anytime.

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This may sound weird but go get a tattoo when ever I feel like shit I think of some new ink. Try it be a fucking warrior.

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[quote]The Mage wrote:
The facts are really when a person mentions that they are contemplating suicide, they are unlikely to actually commit suicide. It is actually a call for help.
[/quote]

False. This is a common myth. People that bring up the idea of suicide can be very serious about it, esspecially (but not only) if they mention a specific method (gun, pills, etc.). In fact, I think most people that eventually commit suicide mentioned it to someone, at some point.

OP where are you?