I have started using these on my PULL days; first exercise 2-3 reps for one arm exercise, ramping up weight for 6 sets or so. Just curious what most use on this. I am hitting the 120lb DB on my last set for 3 reps, I use hook grip with chalk so I don’t have to use strap. Some body english is involved but not even as much as a power DB curl, just a quick twitch and pull DB up to chest from full stretch at bottom. Got my eyes on the 150’s at the end of the rack but will be patient.
Have found that chin-ups are now more explosive after the DB rows and hit a PR last week in weighted chins, so I think new stimulus working…
[quote]ParagonA wrote:
I do one-arm DB Row ratchets. My heaviest set is 3 x 202 lbs (92kg), which is the heaviest dumbbell in my gym…[/quote]
You lucky man…60kg is the heaviest in probably all the gyms in my country…
One arm T-bars are just not the same…sigh[/quote]
I agree that one armed T-bar rows are not the same, but I disagree with your “sigh” haha
I’ve been using them the last few months as the dumbbells in my gym only go up to 100 lbs, and doing 30+ reps doesn’t seem like the best option for my goals.
I find if I warm up well(and progressively) and position myself well that 1 arm T-bar rows offer me a great stretch, which many believe to be important, as well as allow for a fairly good squeeze. I’ve seen noticeable growth, which although I can’t contribute solely to the T-bar rows (on account of doing heavy rackpulls consistently), but I do believe that T-bar rows are offering me very similar benefits to heavy dumbbell rows. I also find them good to progress on, as 2.5lbs more a week (in a rep range of 15-20) is doable for me, while maintaining the same form.
Different strokes for different folks, I just wanted to step in and defend a buddy of mine.
[quote]ParagonA wrote:
I do one-arm DB Row ratchets. My heaviest set is 3 x 202 lbs (92kg), which is the heaviest dumbbell in my gym…[/quote]
Are you using a strap with this weight?
I like the range of motion better in the DB Row than others since I can support 1/2 body on flat bench and get good stretch in bottom then explode up. Once I ramp up to 150’s gonna have to figure out where to go from there…
Strengthening grip at same time by using hook grip and chalk, so no straps yet, we’ll see once weight gets heavier…
I love dumbell rows. Besides deadlifts, they are my favorite back exercise. I have not done them much recently because the dumbells only go to 110 in the gym I’m in now but I am ordering a dumbell handle so I can continue with them. I use straps because my main goal with them is to hit my back. Sometimes I will do a set or two without straps afterwards but not always. Some of my current weight and rep PR’s are:
135x46
175x18- This was a pain to rig up the dumbell but I had set a goal to row my bodyweight. I have not gone up that heavy since then since it just took too long.
115x59- I am all for high reps with dumbell rows, but this was excessive. Since my current gym only has 110’s I have switched to t-bar rows and Pendlay rows, and supported dumbell rows at times.
I think this exercise does have a big carryover to the deadlift too.
^^^^^ I’m all for a little body English, and I am by no means the form police, but I do think you need to clean that up a bit. When it gets to the point where you’re jerking your body to get the weight up, it’s probably time to end the set. You’re really not stimulating your back much anymore at that point, it’s all momentum. But good job nonetheless.
I don’t do these anymore. Unfortunately, my gym, which is otherwise fantastic, only has DBs to 130.
Damn Bruno. What sucks about doing that high of reps is that when you’re done…you need to do it with the other side lol.
Out of curiosity, are you looking to get much bigger? Just wondering because you’re very strong for your body weight and it seems like with all the strength you’ve gained you could be significantly bigger just by eating more since, as mentioned, the strength gains are clearly there.
[quote]ParagonA wrote:
I do one-arm DB Row ratchets. My heaviest set is 3 x 202 lbs (92kg), which is the heaviest dumbbell in my gym…[/quote]
Are you using a strap with this weight?
I like the range of motion better in the DB Row than others since I can support 1/2 body on flat bench and get good stretch in bottom then explode up. Once I ramp up to 150’s gonna have to figure out where to go from there…
Strengthening grip at same time by using hook grip and chalk, so no straps yet, we’ll see once weight gets heavier…
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I do use straps sometimes, especially when I’m training for bodybuilding purposes, or if I am after new PBs. But most of the time I don’t. Just like the feeling of being able to lift heavy weight without any assistance better. I deadlift up to 550 withou straps, belt or wraps, too.
DB Rows are my favorite back exercise now, I feel that I can push myself much further on these than any other exercise.
My record (hit it 2 days ago) is with a 130lb DB at bodyweight 185. I did a rest pause set of 30reps - 10reps - 7 reps for 47 total. Took me 5 minutes to recover enough to hit 43 reps with the other side.
My goal is to hit 50 reps with no rest with that DB (heaviest at my gym) in the next half year or so.
(Strapped, btw, I can only hit about 20 before my forearms erupt)
[quote]silverhydra wrote:
DB Rows are my favorite back exercise now, I feel that I can push myself much further on these than any other exercise.
My record (hit it 2 days ago) is with a 130lb DB at bodyweight 185. I did a rest pause set of 30reps - 10reps - 7 reps for 47 total. Took me 5 minutes to recover enough to hit 43 reps with the other side.
My goal is to hit 50 reps with no rest with that DB (heaviest at my gym) in the next half year or so.
(Strapped, btw, I can only hit about 20 before my forearms erupt)[/quote]
Haven’t done these in awhile… Kind of outgrew the 150’s doing 5x5 and switched to BB rows or pullups. I should mix this movement back in though. They’re one of the few movements that’s pretty fun to do.
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Haven’t done these in awhile… Kind of outgrew the 150’s doing 5x5 and switched to BB rows or pullups. I should mix this movement back in though. They’re one of the few movements that’s pretty fun to do.[/quote]
Thus far, I’ve just been using them for CNS activation @ beginning of WO. So not maxing on weight or reps yet…
I’ve never really felt the need to go over a pair of 125’s, I do mine bent over with both arms at once (much better contraction than with a barbell). (“if you can’t hold it there, then you didn’t lift it with your muscles, you threw it there” - Yates)
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I’ve never really felt the need to go over a pair of 125’s, I do mine bent over with both arms at once (much better contraction than with a barbell). (“if you can’t hold it there, then you didn’t lift it with your muscles, you threw it there” - Yates)
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I get the point, but core stabilization will be a limiting factor here, even if your back muscles could hold the weight
[quote]bruno082985 wrote:
I love dumbell rows. Besides deadlifts, they are my favorite back exercise. I have not done them much recently because the dumbells only go to 110 in the gym I’m in now but I am ordering a dumbell handle so I can continue with them. I use straps because my main goal with them is to hit my back. Sometimes I will do a set or two without straps afterwards but not always. Some of my current weight and rep PR’s are:
135x46
175x18- This was a pain to rig up the dumbell but I had set a goal to row my bodyweight. I have not gone up that heavy since then since it just took too long.
115x59- I am all for high reps with dumbell rows, but this was excessive. Since my current gym only has 110’s I have switched to t-bar rows and Pendlay rows, and supported dumbell rows at times.
I think this exercise does have a big carryover to the deadlift too. [/quote]
I may be too conservative or I may not understand the movement, but I’m using far less body english. I squeeze and hold the movement at the top and go down slowly for each rep. I’m doing this for every back movement.
Are most of you doing row with form like in this video?
I may be too conservative or I may not understand the movement, but I’m using far less body english. I squeeze and hold the movement at the top and go down slowly for each rep. I’m doing this for every back movement.
Are most of you doing row with form like in this video?[/quote]
Pretty much, the last video is damn near my form on them.
The extra amount of work I can squeeze out compensates for the english, and if my back becomes diagonal rather than horizontal, hell, it’s now a trap workout too!