Yogi: How Do You Train?

[quote]jeremielemauvais wrote:
Not to cast any aspersions on your physique (180 pounds with lower ab veins is impressive at any height)

But I’m just curious what you mean here:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Years of 5x5 left me strong, injured and skinny.
I’ve never squatted or deadlifted 400lbs like conventional wisdom dicates you’re supposed to.
I can get more out of front squatting 80k for a set of 30 than I ever did FSing 3 plates for 5s .
I was on course for a 180K bench before…
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So if my understanding is correct you were benching close to 400 pounds at 210 - your maximum weight (almost twice bodyweight at 200 pounds+ is always impressive)
following strength training and front squatting 315 pounds for a set of 5 but never ever back squatted or deadlifted 400 pounds ever.

And right now you’re front squatting your bodyweight (80kg~180pounds) for 30 reps with veins in your lower abs… like seriously. Very very impressive.

So congratulations on your obvious success.[/quote]

Yeah sounds a bit weird, eh? Haha.

Basically, the massive discrepancy in strength is a combination of having a naturally strong bench, shitty lower back and terrible posture.

The deadlift always killed me, and while I have actually pulled 400lbs with a trap bar, that extra few inches to get down to a straight bar just seems to put my back into a position where it loses all tightness, power and then buckles.

The bent over row puts me into the exact same position. There seems to be an angle where my lower back will just give up.

That’s why front squats are so good for me, as they keep me upright which means I avoid the killer angle. Back squats in the bottom position do the same thing as the deads and BO rows, so even when my front squat was strong (no idea what my max is these days but I doubt it’d be much) I could just never get my back squat to even close to my bodyweight without hurting myself.

Front squats aren’t exactly risk free, as if I let form go and allow the weight to drift forward then I get near to the death angle in the bottom position. That’s yet another reason why I do the stupidly high reps. My form really seems to be locked in these days on account of doing so many reps.

It’s like I said before: I’m good at training in a very specific style, but I suck at everything else!

[quote]Ecchastang wrote:
28 waist is deadmans land here in CO. I swear even the 30’s are too small in the but and thighs, but give me 2-3 inches extra in the waist. Whenever I find a pair that fits, I buy multiples so I have some. [/quote]

we are brothers, you and I

[quote]knokkelezoute73 wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]knokkelezoute73 wrote:
I really miss infinite_shore.[/quote]

Hi![/quote]

I hope you will resume posting here. The quality of the forum really suffers when you don’t. People seeming to actually be looking up to yogi was the last straw.[/quote]

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
What do you do to keep your belly button so tight?[/quote]

I don’t let people touch it!

[quote]Diddy Ryder wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
What do you do to keep your belly button so tight?[/quote]

arent you the OP’s old account?
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you’re thinking of rds920375902[/quote]

Man that guy’s bowels were a mess.
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sure was sexy, though

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Diddy Ryder wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
What do you do to keep your belly button so tight?[/quote]

arent you the OP’s old account?
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you’re thinking of rds920375902[/quote]

Man that guy’s bowels were a mess.
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sure was sexy, though[/quote]

Not on the inside :wink:

[quote]theBird wrote:
Im in for this!

Yogi-B-Bear: would you like to explain your lower back issues?

How did you injure it? How many times? Do you do anything to help it? How is it feeling at the moment?

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missed this last time.

Injured it more times than I can count! Had about a zillion different diagnoses from various healthcare professionals. I’ve given up trying to get a definite answer as to what’s actually wrong. It’s just fucked.

Basically I’m all about avoiding stuff now. No deads (any variation), back squats or bent over rows. I definitely find it’s more about what I DON’T do, as opposed to what I do.

I do chest supported rows, and weighted GHRs make up the bulk of my heavy hamstring work.

My back’s been pain free for about 6 months now, which is great! I find that as long as I start my lower body session with:

-banded side lying clams. I hold these for a minute as opposed to doing reps. I read something by Waterbury where he said static holds are better for activation work than reps.

-Bird Dogs to wake up the core. I think light core work as part of a warm up is a massively underused piece of awesomeness.

-Bodyweight hip thrusts. Again, I just hold the peak contraction for a minute or so.

That seems to be all the warm up I need for lower body work.

Hope that helps Birdy, I know you’ve back issues of your own.

[quote]Diddy Ryder wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Diddy Ryder wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
What do you do to keep your belly button so tight?[/quote]

arent you the OP’s old account?
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you’re thinking of rds920375902[/quote]

Man that guy’s bowels were a mess.
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sure was sexy, though[/quote]

Not on the inside :wink:
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we’re all sexy on the inside! Did your mother teach you nothign?

[quote]Yogi wrote:

-Bird Dogs to wake up the core. I think light core work as part of a warm up is a massively underused piece of awesomeness.

-Bodyweight hip thrusts.
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I agree. If I don’t get my obliques activated, I always have a tender back. I also lay on my back and rotate my lower body from side to side and do fire hydrants, focusing on glute contraction.

[quote]Yogi wrote:

-banded side lying clams. I hold these for a minute as opposed to doing reps. I read something by Waterbury where he said static holds are better for activation work than reps.

-Bird Dogs to wake up the core. I think light core work as part of a warm up is a massively underused piece of awesomeness.

-Bodyweight hip thrusts. Again, I just hold the peak contraction for a minute or so.

That seems to be all the warm up I need for lower body work.

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Well shit, that’s pretty much exactly what I plan to start doing to get my glutes and core activated for squats, because right now they aren’t doing much lol.

Also in for the man p0rnz

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Hope that helps Birdy, I know you’ve back issues of your own.[/quote]
Thanks mate.

The “death angle” you talk of sounds familiar.

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where are the pics of 180lbs / 28 inch waist / veins on abs

[quote]TheCB wrote:
where are the pics of 180lbs / 28 inch waist / veins on abs[/quote]

Exactly… I scrolled through all 3 pages looking for them.

Really? Why? There’s quite a few non-using members on the RMP as well as the site in general who’re clocking in at 180 with veins in their abs at normal height. Heck off the top of my head, Lonnie and Stu and Timmmcbride are unassisted and COMPETE at/around that weight lol.

[quote]Aopocetx wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:
where are the pics of 180lbs / 28 inch waist / veins on abs[/quote]

Exactly… I scrolled through all 3 pages looking for them.[/quote]

[quote]TheCB wrote:
where are the pics of 180lbs / 28 inch waist / veins on abs[/quote]

Lol…

Where are your pics? You know, the ones I asked you to provide a month ago.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:
where are the pics of 180lbs / 28 inch waist / veins on abs[/quote]

Lol…

Where are your pics? You know, the ones I asked you to provide a month ago. [/quote]

haha good to see you are still so upset over our disagreement on your fighting skills :slight_smile:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:
where are the pics of 180lbs / 28 inch waist / veins on abs[/quote]

Lol…

Where are your pics? You know, the ones I asked you to provide a month ago. [/quote]

haha good to see you are still so upset over our disagreement on your fighting skills :slight_smile:
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That’s not me being upset. That’s me laughing at how hypocritical you are.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:
where are the pics of 180lbs / 28 inch waist / veins on abs[/quote]

Lol…

Where are your pics? You know, the ones I asked you to provide a month ago. [/quote]

haha good to see you are still so upset over our disagreement on your fighting skills :slight_smile:
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That’s not me being upset. That’s me laughing at how hypocritical you are. [/quote]

I’m confused, CB. Are you suggesting that those numbers for Yogi aren’t accurate? Or do you just want to see what that looks like? I don’t see what would make you think that’s an extraordinary claim. After my first cycle, I could see veins through my shoulders, lats, quads, abs, a couple across my hamstrings, etc. And this was at like 190 lbs. Probably 29-30" waist after bloating went away. Yogi’s been way more consistent in the gym than me, and actually trains for aesthetics. And he’s a bit more experienced with the steronz than I am. I have zero doubt that his physique looks awesome and that those numbers are accurate.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:
where are the pics of 180lbs / 28 inch waist / veins on abs[/quote]

Lol…

Where are your pics? You know, the ones I asked you to provide a month ago. [/quote]

haha good to see you are still so upset over our disagreement on your fighting skills :slight_smile:
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That’s not me being upset. That’s me laughing at how hypocritical you are. [/quote]

I’m confused, CB. Are you suggesting that those numbers for Yogi aren’t accurate? Or do you just want to see what that looks like? I don’t see what would make you think that’s an extraordinary claim. After my first cycle, I could see veins through my shoulders, lats, quads, abs, a couple across my hamstrings, etc. And this was at like 190 lbs. Probably 29-30" waist after bloating went away. Yogi’s been way more consistent in the gym than me, and actually trains for aesthetics. And he’s a bit more experienced with the steronz than I am. I have zero doubt that his physique looks awesome and that those numbers are accurate. [/quote]

Arguing with TheCB is like arguing with a special needs kid. I’d advise against it.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:
where are the pics of 180lbs / 28 inch waist / veins on abs[/quote]

Lol…

Where are your pics? You know, the ones I asked you to provide a month ago. [/quote]

haha good to see you are still so upset over our disagreement on your fighting skills :slight_smile:
[/quote]

That’s not me being upset. That’s me laughing at how hypocritical you are. [/quote]

I’m confused, CB. Are you suggesting that those numbers for Yogi aren’t accurate? Or do you just want to see what that looks like? I don’t see what would make you think that’s an extraordinary claim. After my first cycle, I could see veins through my shoulders, lats, quads, abs, a couple across my hamstrings, etc. And this was at like 190 lbs. Probably 29-30" waist after bloating went away. Yogi’s been way more consistent in the gym than me, and actually trains for aesthetics. And he’s a bit more experienced with the steronz than I am. I have zero doubt that his physique looks awesome and that those numbers are accurate. [/quote]

i just want to see what he looks like no sinister motives

@fatboy - yawn, please stop messaging me