Who Has The Best Genetics?

maybe were just being to broad with defining races. THe nuer in africa avg 6’5" in height but somalians arent much different size that anyone else(just a guess im not an expert on somalian physiology).

Animals adapt to different environments and evolve specialized traits. Humans arent so fucking special that we dont change to cope with our environments otherwise wed all have black skin and broad noses. this doesnt imply one group is “superior” to another or more “evolved”. all it means is that some people might be different in order to, as a population, survive.

For example larry allen is 6’3" tall, 325 pounds of lightning fast killer strength. obviously he is supremely evolved to play guard in the NFL and be an 11 time pro bowl player and 8 time all pro athlete in his 12 seasons. Dammit i couldnt change this to the larry allen thread!

The worlds heaviest squat, dead, and bench, are held by white people as well as the heaviset total. I don’t play the race game though, hard work and consitsncy will be sufficient no matter what race you are.

its pretty established that most of the strongest guys seem to be white while

most of the fastest seem to be black

this is the point being made, austin-bicep

[quote]brian.m wrote:
its pretty established that most of the strongest guys seem to be white while

most of the fastest seem to be black

this is the point being made, austin-bicep[/quote]

well i didnt feel like reading 120 posts so decided to just give my two cents Brian.m

It’s simple.

White men can’t jump.

They can’t say a word about a black either, fucking political correctness gone wrong.

There would NEVER be a film called “Black men can’t swim.”

In all honesty though, just look at sports.

If you look at strength sports, those from colder climates do well in Worlds Strongest Man, the USA produces a lot of strongmen as well, but overall I’d say the guys from Eastern Europe and Northern Europe are fucking dominant. You do see the odd n** n** at strongman comps, but not many.

In powerlifting, it’s mainly white guys that do well, british, americans, europeans, they all seem to make good powerlifters, you don’t see many spades PLing, although there are some good ones.

Bodybuilding is a funny one, you have out-and-out blacks like Coleman, Haney etc that dominated the sport, but then you also get Arnold, Yates and Cutler, british and european whites that dominated as well.

Weightlifting is dominated by Europeans.

Sprinting is a black mans game, as is basketball.

Swimming and endurance events, such as triathlons, cycling and so forth are dominated by honkeys.

Soccer, rugby, tennis, cricket, racket sports and basically most classic sports are mainly played by whites. Soccer = europeans are dominating, rugby = bit of a mix but europeans are doing just as well now, tennis - you rarely get a spade playing tennis, cycling and endurance events are dominated by skinny white boys.

It’s hard to say who has the best genes really, each has a distinct advantage in different sports.

If you’re a black, start sprinting, if you’re a white, start picking shit up if you have a heavyish build, otherwise stick some running shoes on and do something like that. If you’re white, thin, tall and wiry, start swimming. If you’re the same as the latter but black, start shooting hoops.

WOW

[quote]eisenaffe wrote:
BALBO wrote:

Croats had very tough history full of long wars that decimated the population.Its Darvinism…survival of the fittest!

Then the Jews must be superhuman.

There is no croat gene. Nations are nowadays separated by languages and not by genes. You are probably geneticaly stronger related to a german , hungarian, italian or turk than to your nearest neighbour.

[/quote]

Bullshit!
Man,if you just look at the build of 10 Croats and 10 Germans- you will see much difference!

[quote]sparkym wrote:

If you’re a black, start sprinting, if you’re a white, start picking shit up if you have a heavyish build, otherwise stick some running shoes on and do something like that. If you’re white, thin, tall and wiry, start swimming. If you’re the same as the latter but black, start shooting hoops.[/quote]

“What you just said is one of the most insanely, idiotic things I have ever heard. No where in your rambling, incoherent response where you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

While race is in part a social construct, there are also several physical differences that have been demonstrated between the races. It is idiotic to think that EVERY black will be faster or stronger than their Caucasian counterparts, but also naive to suggest that thousands of years of evolving while facing disparate sets of environmental pressures would not result in differences in trends (eg. a shift in the bell curve between whites and blacks in fast twitch fiber proporitons).

It is true that we evolved from a common ancestor, but take 2 identical species, transport 1 to a jungle island with ample food and ample predators and another to a tundra and after a few thousand years, differences will emerge.

[quote]BALBO wrote:
eisenaffe wrote:
BALBO wrote:

Croats had very tough history full of long wars that decimated the population.Its Darvinism…survival of the fittest!

Then the Jews must be superhuman.

There is no croat gene. Nations are nowadays separated by languages and not by genes. You are probably geneticaly stronger related to a german , hungarian, italian or turk than to your nearest neighbour.

Bullshit!
Man,if you just look at the build of 10 Croats and 10 Germans- you will see much difference![/quote]

on another thread someone said that if you go to a gym in germany people will make fun of you. I dont know if its factual or not but thats what I heard.

[quote]TunaMonkey wrote:

While race is in part a social construct, there are also several physical differences that have been demonstrated between the races. It is idiotic to think that EVERY black will be faster or stronger than their Caucasian counterparts, but also naive to suggest that thousands of years of evolving while facing disparate sets of environmental pressures would not result in differences in trends (eg. a shift in the bell curve between whites and blacks in fast twitch fiber proporitons).

It is true that we evolved from a common ancestor, but take 2 identical species, transport 1 to a jungle island with ample food and ample predators and another to a tundra and after a few thousand years, differences will emerge.[/quote]

its completely backwards to think that two populations that have been isolated from eachother and live in completely different environments have not evolved any differences after 40,000+ years. Unless you believe in creation theory your an arogant backwards weird smelly , wait where was this going again?
oh yeah, humans are animals too, we arent above influence from our environment and if you think evolution is real then there obviously has to be differences.

something interesting wikipedia, search race and genetics
"A statistical analysis done in 1958 using historical census data and historical data on immigration and birth rates, concluded that 21 percent of the white population had black ancestors. The growth in the white population could not be attributed to births in the white population and immigration from Europe alone, but had received significant contribution from the American black population as well. [29] The author states in 1958:

“The data presented in this study indicate that the popular belief in the non-African background of white persons is invalid. Over twenty-eight million white persons are descendants of persons of African origin. Furthermore, the majority of the persons with African ancestry are classified as white.”
that guy that called me a cracker could have be less black than my fat white ass-hahahahhahaha, still cant dance dammit

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
sparkym wrote:

If you’re a black, start sprinting, if you’re a white, start picking shit up if you have a heavyish build, otherwise stick some running shoes on and do something like that. If you’re white, thin, tall and wiry, start swimming. If you’re the same as the latter but black, start shooting hoops.

“What you just said is one of the most insanely, idiotic things I have ever heard. No where in your rambling, incoherent response where you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”[/quote]

god is bullshit fuck off

[quote]rander wrote:
BALBO wrote:
eisenaffe wrote:
BALBO wrote:

Croats had very tough history full of long wars that decimated the population.Its Darvinism…survival of the fittest!

Then the Jews must be superhuman.

There is no croat gene. Nations are nowadays separated by languages and not by genes. You are probably geneticaly stronger related to a german , hungarian, italian or turk than to your nearest neighbour.

Bullshit!
Man,if you just look at the build of 10 Croats and 10 Germans- you will see much difference!

on another thread someone said that if you go to a gym in germany people will make fun of you. I dont know if its factual or not but thats what I heard.[/quote]

I dont think Germans are too keen to mess with Croats.

[quote]sparkym wrote:
It’s simple.

White men can’t jump.
[/quote]

Jonathan Edwards, Sergei Bubka, Patrik Sjöberg, Vyacheslav Voronin, Louis Tsatoumas, Robert Emmiyan

Winter olympic medals total:
#1 Norway: 263
#3 United States: 193
#4 Austria: 162
#5 Finland: 142

Winter olympic medals per capita:
#1 Liechtenstein: 266.928 per 1 million people
#2 Norway: 57.2611 per 1 million people
#3 Finland: 27.1874 per 1 million people
#4 Austria: 19.7923 per 1 million people
#5 Switzerland: 13.7535 per 1 million people
#6 Sweden: 11.9973 per 1 million people
#7 Luxembourg: 4.2683 per 1 million people
#8 Netherlands: 4.20552 per 1 million people
#9 Canada: 2.92638 per 1 million people
#10 Estonia: 2.25056 per 1 million people
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/spo_win_oly_med_all_tim_percap-medals-all-time-per-capita

Summer olympic medals per capita:

  1. Finland.
  2. Sweden.
  3. Hungary.
  4. Denmark.
  5. Norway.
  6. Bulgaria.
  7. Saint Kitts and Nevis.
  8. Switzerland.
  9. Bahamas, The.
  10. Estonia.
    (USA is 17)
    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/spo_sum_oly_med_all_tim_percap-medals-all-time-per-capita

[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
sparkym wrote:
It’s simple.

White men can’t jump.

Jonathan Edwards, Sergei Bubka, Patrik Sjöberg, Vyacheslav Voronin, Louis Tsatoumas, Robert Emmiyan[/quote]

You obviously don’t understand satire OR sarcasm. I was making a joke about political correctness and used a movie title to make a point.

Either way, you’re a moron. Sergei Bubka didn’t have to jump over a bar, he had the assistance of a flexible pole.

Most of what I said after the initial joke was true, I threw in a few racist words, such as n** n** and out-and-out black and even honkey and skinny white boy for balance, just to get some reaction, it worked.

There are rare examples of white jumpers, but they are only rare, Jonathan Edwards holds a WR in the triple jump for example but the majority of jumpers or sprinters, that are good, are black, you may get the odd one white in the top ten of all time.

It’s like saying blacks are shit at sprinting because Alan Wells won in 1980 at the Olympic Games. The fact is the majority of sprinters are black. We all know it’s true. You do get the odd white sprinter.

My point about most strength athletes and weightlifters coming from european countries was valid, as the poster above has clearly shown. Most of the other stuff wasn’t far wrong.

Posting a few examples of white jumpers is all good. Now go and find a few black jumpers or sprinters. You’ll find a lot more.

It seems like Blacks have the best limb proportions and limb leverage for jumping and running. Sure you can find people of other races who can dunk or who can run a 100-M in less then 12 seconds but you WON’T find more than a few dozen freaks who were born with the ability to dunk and run sub 12 second 100-Ms.

The portion of Europeans that are Endomorphs or Endo/Mesomorphs dominate strength sports like throwing, strongman competitions, Olympic weightlifting, and positions in Football that don’t demand much speed.

Black and White ectomorphs dominate endurance sports. Whites do better in Biking because it’s more culturally accessible for the most part than it is to blacks. Blacks dominate endurance running because it’s more culturally accessible in countries that are predominately black.

Asians tend to excel at sports where “relative strength” counts like gymnastics.

But race is a very small factor in athletic performance and all generalizations about ability made by race can always be disproved with a near endless amount of counter examples. Basically predicting athletic performance by race is a big crock of shit.

If you want to determine what demographics will do well in what sports you need to look at social and cultural factors. Race is hardly a valid predictor for success in a certain sport. The only way someone will succeed at a sport is if they get a chance to try it.

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
It seems like Blacks have the best limb proportions and limb leverage for jumping and running. Sure you can find people of other races who can dunk or who can run a 100-M in less then 12 seconds but you WON’T find more than a few dozen freaks who were born with the ability to dunk and run sub 12 second 100-Ms.

The portion of Europeans that are Endomorphs or Endo/Mesomorphs dominate strength sports like throwing, strongman competitions, Olympic weightlifting, and positions in Football that don’t demand much speed.

Black and White ectomorphs dominate endurance sports. Whites do better in Biking because it’s more culturally accessible for the most part than it is to blacks. Blacks dominate endurance running because it’s more culturally accessible in countries that are predominately black.

Asians tend to excel at sports where “relative strength” counts like gymnastics.

But race is a very small factor in athletic performance and all generalizations about ability made by race can always be disproved with a near endless amount of counter examples. Basically predicting athletic performance by race is a big crock of shit.

If you want to determine what demographics will do well in what sports you need to look at social and cultural factors. Race is hardly a valid predictor for success in a certain sport. The only way someone will succeed at a sport is if they get a chance to try it. [/quote]

Good post FightingScott,

An interesting note about olympic weightlifting not requiring much speed. There was a study done some years ago (I know some have claimed that it was bullshit, but I’ve personally never seen any definitive proof that it didn’t happen) where they took athletes from many different sports and tested their performance in several tests (40m dash, vertical leap, etc…).

What was interesting was that olympic weightlifters had the highest vertical leap of any group, and were as fast as the sprinters during the first portion of the 40m dash.

Think about it, olympic weight lifting takes incredible amounts of speed, power, flexibility and coordination. It’s no wonder these athletes would have scored so high on events like sprints and vertical leaps.

Good training,

Sentoguy

[quote]BALBO wrote:
Dominator wrote:
BALBO wrote:
Croats.
Not to pimp my family origin too much either, but I must say that Croatian people tend to be blessed genetically. I myself am blessed that I can have steroidal type gains just by training hard and increasing my diet slightly.
Exactly.
Croats had very tough history full of long wars that decimated the population.Its Darvinism…survival of the fittest! [/quote]

Oh Balbos, the irony!
It’s survival of the fittest not the strongest!
You imply here Croatia is made of fat, lazy cowards who hid in the barn or the town well and did not march with the others to the fields of glory only to be trampled by cavalry.
First to charge, last to withdraw is a bad motto for survival.

Look at the top ten of high jump. I’m not sure of the ethnicity of the WR holder Javier Sotomayor but he’s cuban so most likely mulatto. He may look black but so does Tiger Woods,without actually being a genuine black.

In the rest of the top ten,indoor and outdoor,there is only one presumed black guy in indoor top ten (fourth position shared with a swede) and two in outdoor, with a black at 4 and 5, with 4 shared with three whites and 5 shared with a chinese. It is pretty white dominated.

And for women,there are only whites in the top ten of high jump.

Pole vault is white.

In the 2004 olympics, the NBA saturated USA basketball team was overcome by Puerto Rico and Italy and narrowly beat Germany, placing third.
Those countries don’t care about basketball too much,but would rather play soccer,yet they won.