This probably is going to sound stupid, but what nationality do you think naturally has the best genetics in terms of strength and speed. I think African Americans averagely round in at the top, following Russians and Samoans for my top 3.
So who do you think averagely naturally has the best genetics based on what you have seen personally or through t.v. �??Come on it can just be by chance African Americans tend to be better at sports, and Russians tend to do well in strength sports-
Sport dependent and as well very VERY dependent on your environment growing up. Its no fluke that many of the best athlete come from poor up bringings, learning to work DAMN hard for anything they have. Many times knowing the only way OUT is to become a great athlete as well now a days with the video game era etc its those people who actually still go out side and play like real children should. They are active etc
Phill
I wouldn’t be suprised if African-Americans had the best genetics. Their ancestors were used to work after all.
I thought I posted on this topic this morning but maybe not. I basically said what Phil did, different sports favor different genetics.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
I wouldn’t be suprised if African-Americans had the best genetics. Their ancestors were used to work after all.[/quote]
And then this sort of comment comes out and the thread will spiral totally out of control. Joking or not which I hope you are.
Slovics generally are from what I’ve seen. And the Irish.
From my experience, the only people who obsess about “black genetics” are white kids looking to excuse their own inferiority and lack of hard work. Keep in mind that there is on average more genetic variety within races than between races.
The real test would be to look at the most popular sports world wide. In those sports the enthnicities are as diversified as the people on the planet. I wouldn’t say there is an absolute advantage to any race. This is coming from someone who has a degree in anthropology and we studied this phenomenon in college. And, yes, environment and culture has a lot to do with it.
[quote]scottiscool wrote:
I thought I posted on this topic this morning but maybe not. I basically said what Phil did, different sports favor different genetics.
undeadlift wrote:
I wouldn’t be suprised if African-Americans had the best genetics. Their ancestors were used to work after all.
And then this sort of comment comes out and the thread will spiral totally out of control. Joking or not which I hope you are.[/quote]
Well, I hope nobody here’s too sensitive. It was just an objective comment.
Let me expound anyway as to avoid any misunderstanding. If you and your children and their children and their children’s children, etc. become gym lovers and lift heavy, chances are that your descendants will inherit genes conducive to heavy lifting. It’s simply an adaptive response that has shaped the genetics of many people.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
scottiscool wrote:
I thought I posted on this topic this morning but maybe not. I basically said what Phil did, different sports favor different genetics.
undeadlift wrote:
I wouldn’t be suprised if African-Americans had the best genetics. Their ancestors were used to work after all.
And then this sort of comment comes out and the thread will spiral totally out of control. Joking or not which I hope you are.
Well, I hope nobody here’s too sensitive. It was just an objective comment.
Let me expound anyway as to avoid any misunderstanding. If you and your children and their children and their children’s children, etc. become gym lovers and lift heavy, chances are that your descendants will inherit genes conducive to heavy lifting. It’s simply an adaptive response that has shaped the genetics of many people.[/quote]
Actually heredity doesn’t work that way. Unless the genetics were already there and/or throughout the lineage people were procreating with people who had better genetics for lifting. If its just something they do in the family there is no guarantee they would be any good at it no matter how far back it goes.
nice, another fact that goes against evolution to add to the collection, thx
[quote]shizen wrote:
This probably is going to sound stupid, but what nationality do you think naturally has the best genetics in terms of strength and speed. I think African Americans averagely round in at the top, following Russians and Samoans for my top 3.
So who do you think averagely naturally has the best genetics based on what you have seen personally or through t.v. �??Come on it can just be by chance African Americans tend to be better at sports, and Russians tend to do well in strength sports-
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Croats.
[quote]brian.m wrote:
nice, another fact that goes against evolution to add to the collection, thx[/quote]
Actually, no, it would be against Lamarck’s version of evolution, it’s solid support for modern evolution.
[quote]BALBO wrote:
Croats.[/quote]
Timmaaay!!!
“Best” is too general. Best at what? We’ve discussed the genetics thing on this site before, and specifically as it related to blacks. (African-American is too specific; Jamaicans are not “American” but have much of the same genetic aspects of African-Americans).
It is hard to not notice the fact that blacks tend to dominate in certain sports, most specifically football (as in NFL) or basketball. Blacks have black hairs that are short and very curly. Asians tend to have black, straight hair. These are differences. It is too hard to accept that such differences may also arise in other physical aspects? For example, blacks may also have differences in limb lengths and tendon attachments, etc. I don’t think that is too much of a stretch (pun not intended).
In general, I think that black people are more likely to be taller and more “springy” than white folk. I can’t think of a white dude in the NFL that reminds me of Randy Moss, but there are other black receivers that do. Why is that? I think it is genetic differences that, although not exclusive to blacks, seem to occur more frequently among black people.
However, these traits do not necessarily make for better athletes in every, or even many, sports. I’m sure that culture factors come in to play as well, but most of it is genetic. How else can you explain the fact that a group of people representing roughly 15% of the population in the U.S. absolutely dominates basketball and football at the collegiate and professional levels?
[quote]Fitnessdiva wrote:
Actually heredity doesn’t work that way. Unless the genetics were already there and/or throughout the lineage people were procreating with people who had better genetics for lifting. If its just something they do in the family there is no guarantee they would be any good at it no matter how far back it goes.[/quote]
This is correct. the same thing with the giraffe analogy:
The ancestors of Giraffes didn’t necessarily have long necks to begin with. Instead, the Giraffe-like animals who had the genes for slightly longer necks were better equipped to reach food from high branches, and in this respect more likely to survive and pass on their genes. So over the generations more and more giraffe-animals inherited this gene for a longer neck, which became more pronounced because of the selective breeding. So nowadays you have giraffes with very long necks who have a this dominant gene for a very long neck.
Natural selection.
And I think, probably people of African ancestry have some gene for giving an advantage in manual labour (and building muscle). It may have been passed on by those males in the tribe who were in the best physical condition and had the genetics to be big and strong, and this meant that they could hunt the best, and be the alpha males in the clan. I’m just grasping at straws here though.
BTW this post was in no way meant to be racist. I’m saying so because it seems to be very easy to be labelled as one around here.
[quote]eic wrote:
How else can you explain the fact that a group of people representing roughly 15% of the population in the U.S. absolutely dominates basketball and football at the collegiate and professional levels? [/quote]
I agree that they dominate for those sports. What about swimming? That sport is dominated by white people. The same appears to hold for gymnastics, etc.
[quote]Chewie wrote:
eic wrote:
How else can you explain the fact that a group of people representing roughly 15% of the population in the U.S. absolutely dominates basketball and football at the collegiate and professional levels?
I agree that they dominate for those sports. What about swimming? That sport is dominated by white people. The same appears to hold for gymnastics, etc.
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I knew I loved white women for a reason.
[quote]PublickStews wrote:
From my experience, the only people who obsess about “black genetics” are white kids looking to excuse their own inferiority and lack of hard work. Keep in mind that there is on average more genetic variety within races than between races.[/quote]
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i think blacks are built more for speed. Whites are geared more towards strength and tend to carry more bodyfat, coming from a colder climate.
[quote]eic wrote:
“Best” is too general. Best at what? We’ve discussed the genetics thing on this site before, and specifically as it related to blacks. (African-American is too specific; Jamaicans are not “American” but have much of the same genetic aspects of African-Americans).
It is hard to not notice the fact that blacks tend to dominate in certain sports, most specifically football (as in NFL) or basketball. Blacks have black hairs that are short and very curly. Asians tend to have black, straight hair. These are differences. It is too hard to accept that such differences may also arise in other physical aspects? For example, blacks may also have differences in limb lengths and tendon attachments, etc. I don’t think that is too much of a stretch (pun not intended).
In general, I think that black people are more likely to be taller and more “springy” than white folk. I can’t think of a white dude in the NFL that reminds me of Randy Moss, but there are other black receivers that do. Why is that? I think it is genetic differences that, although not exclusive to blacks, seem to occur more frequently among black people.
However, these traits do not necessarily make for better athletes in every, or even many, sports. I’m sure that culture factors come in to play as well, but most of it is genetic. How else can you explain the fact that a group of people representing roughly 15% of the population in the U.S. absolutely dominates basketball and football at the collegiate and professional levels? [/quote]
You don’t think that other factors have to do with it than the supposed physical superiority of blacks? Why isn’t this displayed in other countries? Maybe because it has to do with African American culture, more emphasis on sports, blacks in the US tend to look at sports more as a possible profession, are pushed more into it, among a myriad of other factors. You don’t think that your way of thinking is permeated among scouts looking for new talent which, in effect would disenfranchise white players of comparable ability?
The dutch, as a population, are the tallest people on the planet on average. For ‘springyness’ I believe the world records for high jump or long jump are held by an eastern european and a scandanavian (if I remember correctly). The chinese are incredible at weightlifting as are the eastern europeans and scandanavians.
Lastly, the US plays more basketball than any nation on the planet yet the US team, made up of the best of our black professionals got their collective asses handed to them by supposed physically inferior people.
All you have to do is look across the spectrum of sports world wide and you can see that races are pretty much evenly represented. And this is coming from a half black-half white person.