Where is Chad Waterbury Anyway?

FattyFat · January 22, 2010, 6:38pm

Didn’t want to read through all the rubbish, so here’s my 0.02 $:

I’ve used TBT for a few years. In retrospect, I can say that it’s good for two things:
-keeping muscle while on a VERY hypocaloric diet (and increasing strength, to boot!)
-best effort training when strapped for training time

I used to hold TBT in pretty high regard until I looked upon my take on TBT in retrospect: I’ve only injured myself doing TBT. Why is that? Well, since I wanted to cover most (*) muscle groups, my sessions used to be pretty long. Focus usually decreases drastically after 2+ hours of heavy-ass lifting.

Then, I’ve remembered how I used to train when building my today’s body muscle foundation. I’ll give you a hint: it wasn’t TBT.

Know your toolbox, use the appropriate tool for the task at hand.
After all, you wouldn’t start a fat loss diet by binging on Haagen Dasz, would you?

Well, but some people keep on trying to ice-skate uphill and piss out of their asses, not to mention that they shit out of their kissers.

Disclaimer: I didn’t use to train my legs, they grow pretty much doing nothing apart from the occasional bout of cardio. So I had more time to spend on training my upper body - nevertheless, even then TBT couldn’t hold a candle to split training.

Bricknyce · January 22, 2010, 7:27pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Summing up, as Charles Barkley said: “Looks, Money, Intellect — A man’s got to have at least one of these”.

[/quote]

I don’t know why men have to have one or all those, considering that most men have NONE of them and still manage to get a woman, have an ordinary job, and have an OK life.

Tribunal:

You speak of wealth, intellect, model looks, and outstanding achievement, but I don’t see your need for emphasis on them. Our society would be worse off than it is now (and it’s pretty fucking bad now for reasons unrelated to this conversation) if we had too many genius, independent-minded, handsome, overambitious men. We’d have utter chaos, and it would be impossible for people to move in the same direction and to be led. Corporations and organizations would crumble if we hordes of hard-driving, loud-mouthed smart alecs running around.

Ordinary is OK, and that’s what 99.9…% of the population is. [/quote]

That may be true…but it has been said too many times to count, that this activity isn’t even FOR everyone. If one of those “99.9%” finds they’ve been lifting for 6 years but no one can tell, why do they turn around and try to convince everyone else that they are just as bad as they are? I guess misery loves company.

I mean, in this very thread some guy who is OVER 6 feet yet only weighs 200lbs (pretty damn AVERAGE progress for someone who is anywhere near as serious as I consider myself to be) is spending his own fucking free time logging into BODYBUILDING FORUMS to tell all of the people making WAY more progress than he is that we don’t know what we are doing.

I don’t think the point is that one needs to be exceptional in order to live a life on the planet. The point is, why are so many average people speaking up all of the time as if those who aren’t average should follow THEIR lead?

I was over 200lbs at 5’10" in less than two years of training after starting at around 150lbs yet some guy who has been lifting for SEVERAL FUCKING YEARS is trying to convince me and anyone else like me that I need to spend more time worrying about how HE trains???

This would be like someone who never graduated high school giving me career advice.[/quote]

I agree. Refer to my recent posts on here.

BBriere · January 22, 2010, 10:09pm

Fullbody routines are definitely good for people that have poor recovery due to the stressors of life (i.e. work, family, church, etc.). Usually when they are compared to split routines they are compared to routines that involve 3 day splits and low volume. Of course they are going to beat them. That doesn’t mean that they are the absolute best and only way to train.

It’s best to experiment with everything. If you can only fit lifting into your schedule 3 days a week then I say by all means do fullbody. If you have 4 or more days then I would start with at least an upper/lower split. Don’t just take my word on this though. You’re never going to look like Ronnie Coleman doing 3 days a week of lifting, but the fact is that most gym goers don’t want to. My goal has always been about 225 and that is at 6’1". It doesn’t sound impressive, but I’ve been as heavy as 237 and just felt bloated. I got a lot more compliments once I trimmed down to about 210 or so too.

Professor_X · January 22, 2010, 10:21pm

[quote]BBriere wrote:
Fullbody routines are definitely good for people that have poor recovery due to the stressors of life (i.e. work, family, church, etc.). Usually when they are compared to split routines they are compared to routines that involve 3 day splits and low volume. Of course they are going to beat them. That doesn’t mean that they are the absolute best and only way to train.

It’s best to experiment with everything. If you can only fit lifting into your schedule 3 days a week then I say by all means do fullbody. If you have 4 or more days then I would start with at least an upper/lower split. Don’t just take my word on this though. You’re never going to look like Ronnie Coleman doing 3 days a week of lifting, but the fact is that most gym goers don’t want to. My goal has always been about 225 and that is at 6’1". It doesn’t sound impressive, but I’ve been as heavy as 237 and just felt bloated. I got a lot more compliments once I trimmed down to about 210 or so too.[/quote]

What is with you guys thinking that the only choices are “normal” and “RONNIE COLEMAN”? I don’t plan on looking like Ronnie Coleman either. I sure as hell don’t understand those who claim they train SERIOUSLY yet have goals that most should be able to reach in less than 3 years, though.

Things like that make me wonder why they even come here.

I am sure most of us have “stressors of life”. Do you think the rest of us don’t work?

I know one thing, if I was going to put this much time, effort and money into this, there is no way in hell my goals would simply be “average weight for my height…only with ABZ”. Somebody who is 6’1" should have little problem being lean at around 220lbs unless they simply do not have the genetics for this. If that goal takes you a decade, something is very wrong.

How long have you been training?

Loudog75 · January 22, 2010, 10:52pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BBriere wrote:
Fullbody routines are definitely good for people that have poor recovery due to the stressors of life (i.e. work, family, church, etc.). Usually when they are compared to split routines they are compared to routines that involve 3 day splits and low volume. Of course they are going to beat them. That doesn’t mean that they are the absolute best and only way to train.

It’s best to experiment with everything. If you can only fit lifting into your schedule 3 days a week then I say by all means do fullbody. If you have 4 or more days then I would start with at least an upper/lower split. Don’t just take my word on this though. You’re never going to look like Ronnie Coleman doing 3 days a week of lifting, but the fact is that most gym goers don’t want to. My goal has always been about 225 and that is at 6’1". It doesn’t sound impressive, but I’ve been as heavy as 237 and just felt bloated. I got a lot more compliments once I trimmed down to about 210 or so too.[/quote]

What is with you guys thinking that the only choices are “normal” and “RONNIE COLEMAN”? I don’t plan on looking like Ronnie Coleman either. I sure as hell don’t understand those who claim they train SERIOUSLY yet have goals that most should be able to reach in less than 3 years, though.

Things like that make me wonder why they even come here.

I am sure most of us have “stressors of life”. Do you think the rest of us don’t work?

I know one thing, if I was going to put this much time, effort and money into this, there is no way in hell my goals would simply be “average weight for my height…only with ABZ”. Somebody who is 6’1" should have little problem being lean at around 220lbs unless they simply do not have the genetics for this. If that goal takes you a decade, something is very wrong.

How long have you been training?[/quote]

I agree. You make the time for what’s important to you.
For me, my family comes first - then work then weights. In order to be serious Prof X - I have to sacrifice. I’m in the gym at 5/5:30 AM so that I can hit the weights (avoid that H-town Rush) go to work and get home at a reasonable hour to spend time with my kids.

Lastly - How can you give 100% to every body part working out for 2+ hours. My opinion (and its just that) is that you don’t get big without lifting big. And you can’t lift big with TBT.

FattyFat · January 22, 2010, 11:03pm

[quote]BBriere wrote:
My goal has always been about 225 and that is at 6’1". It doesn’t sound impressive, but I’ve been as heavy as 237 and just felt bloated. I got a lot more compliments once I trimmed down to about 210 or so too.[/quote]

If you felt bloated at 237 and actually TRIMMED down, it somehow implies you lost fat. And not muscle. So, you felt bloated because you’ve actually been carrying too much body weight that was not comprised of MUSCLE. Bottom line: there’s nothing wrong with the weight itself, but with the composition.

Or did you just feel bloated due to your nutrient intake and had to get rid of 27 lbs of muscle to feel fine again?

Please, enlighten me.

BBriere · January 23, 2010, 1:29am

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BBriere wrote:
Fullbody routines are definitely good for people that have poor recovery due to the stressors of life (i.e. work, family, church, etc.). Usually when they are compared to split routines they are compared to routines that involve 3 day splits and low volume. Of course they are going to beat them. That doesn’t mean that they are the absolute best and only way to train.

It’s best to experiment with everything. If you can only fit lifting into your schedule 3 days a week then I say by all means do fullbody. If you have 4 or more days then I would start with at least an upper/lower split. Don’t just take my word on this though. You’re never going to look like Ronnie Coleman doing 3 days a week of lifting, but the fact is that most gym goers don’t want to. My goal has always been about 225 and that is at 6’1". It doesn’t sound impressive, but I’ve been as heavy as 237 and just felt bloated. I got a lot more compliments once I trimmed down to about 210 or so too.[/quote]

What is with you guys thinking that the only choices are “normal” and “RONNIE COLEMAN”? I don’t plan on looking like Ronnie Coleman either. I sure as hell don’t understand those who claim they train SERIOUSLY yet have goals that most should be able to reach in less than 3 years, though.

Things like that make me wonder why they even come here.

I am sure most of us have “stressors of life”. Do you think the rest of us don’t work?

I know one thing, if I was going to put this much time, effort and money into this, there is no way in hell my goals would simply be “average weight for my height…only with ABZ”. Somebody who is 6’1" should have little problem being lean at around 220lbs unless they simply do not have the genetics for this. If that goal takes you a decade, something is very wrong.

How long have you been training?[/quote]

I’ve been training on and off for about 10 years though until about 3 years ago did I have any idea what I was doing. Typically before then I randomly did workouts filled with little effort. My goal is not to be average. The average size for a person my height is about 185. So my goal is about 40 pounds heavier. Anyway, I have the “skinny fat” syndrome. If I gain weight it tends to me around my stomach. If I lose weight it tends to be from everywhere else. It typically gets worse when I train less frequently like hit a body part only once a week. I do fullbody routines when strapped for time, but I prefer upper/lower splits. I was around 210 or 215 around June, but I had to stop doing much lifting for a few months due to injuries and got down to about 195. I’m sure everyone has a job to do, but often times I’m lucky just to be able to train 3 days per week. I teach, coach, volunteer at my church, and usually spend about 2 hours a day just sitting in a car commuting. This typically leaves a good hour to get in and out of the gym so my workouts need to be very quick. Plus, my wife wants to have a little time.

I used Ronnie Coleman as an extreme. I’ve really never met anyone that wanted to look like him. I might even rather look like the Incredible Hulk. I just hope my pants don’t rip off like his. I’m not made of money.

BBriere · January 23, 2010, 1:42am

[quote]FattyFat wrote:

[quote]BBriere wrote:
My goal has always been about 225 and that is at 6’1". It doesn’t sound impressive, but I’ve been as heavy as 237 and just felt bloated. I got a lot more compliments once I trimmed down to about 210 or so too.[/quote]

If you felt bloated at 237 and actually TRIMMED down, it somehow implies you lost fat. And not muscle. So, you felt bloated because you’ve actually been carrying too much body weight that was not comprised of MUSCLE. Bottom line: there’s nothing wrong with the weight itself, but with the composition.

Or did you just feel bloated due to your nutrient intake and had to get rid of 27 lbs of muscle to feel fine again?

Please, enlighten me.

[/quote]

Yeah, I definitely put on some fat. All the nutritional advice I ever read said “eat big.” I did, and I got fat. I have a tendency to do that if I don’t eat just right. I definitely trimmed a lot of fat, but I got much smaller overall. I didn’t really realize until afterwards how uncomfortable I felt. I wanna put on some weight in the form of more muscle, but it’s not the ultimate goal in my life and that goal gets pushed to the side at times. My body responds a lot better to high weight and low reps (i.e. perfect rep training) no matter what traditional routines call for. I try to train 4 days a week using an upper/lower split, but when things get hectic I usually have to go to 3 days so I do fullbody. When football or baseball season come I get up around 5am and stay at work until around 6pm. It’s about 7pm by the time I get home unless it’s game night when it’s 10pm or later. In other words I can usually train regularly for about 2 or 3 months at a time then go into haphazard training whenever I get a chance.

chimera182 · January 23, 2010, 1:47am

[quote]BBriere wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BBriere wrote:
Fullbody routines are definitely good for people that have poor recovery due to the stressors of life (i.e. work, family, church, etc.). Usually when they are compared to split routines they are compared to routines that involve 3 day splits and low volume. Of course they are going to beat them. That doesn’t mean that they are the absolute best and only way to train.

It’s best to experiment with everything. If you can only fit lifting into your schedule 3 days a week then I say by all means do fullbody. If you have 4 or more days then I would start with at least an upper/lower split. Don’t just take my word on this though. You’re never going to look like Ronnie Coleman doing 3 days a week of lifting, but the fact is that most gym goers don’t want to. My goal has always been about 225 and that is at 6’1". It doesn’t sound impressive, but I’ve been as heavy as 237 and just felt bloated. I got a lot more compliments once I trimmed down to about 210 or so too.[/quote]

What is with you guys thinking that the only choices are “normal” and “RONNIE COLEMAN”? I don’t plan on looking like Ronnie Coleman either. I sure as hell don’t understand those who claim they train SERIOUSLY yet have goals that most should be able to reach in less than 3 years, though.

Things like that make me wonder why they even come here.

I am sure most of us have “stressors of life”. Do you think the rest of us don’t work?

I know one thing, if I was going to put this much time, effort and money into this, there is no way in hell my goals would simply be “average weight for my height…only with ABZ”. Somebody who is 6’1" should have little problem being lean at around 220lbs unless they simply do not have the genetics for this. If that goal takes you a decade, something is very wrong.

How long have you been training?[/quote]

I’ve been training on and off for about 10 years though until about 3 years ago did I have any idea what I was doing. Typically before then I randomly did workouts filled with little effort. My goal is not to be average. The average size for a person my height is about 185. So my goal is about 40 pounds heavier. Anyway, I have the “skinny fat” syndrome. If I gain weight it tends to me around my stomach. If I lose weight it tends to be from everywhere else. It typically gets worse when I train less frequently like hit a body part only once a week. I do fullbody routines when strapped for time, but I prefer upper/lower splits. I was around 210 or 215 around June, but I had to stop doing much lifting for a few months due to injuries and got down to about 195. I’m sure everyone has a job to do, but often times I’m lucky just to be able to train 3 days per week. I teach, coach, volunteer at my church, and usually spend about 2 hours a day just sitting in a car commuting. This typically leaves a good hour to get in and out of the gym so my workouts need to be very quick. Plus, my wife wants to have a little time.

I used Ronnie Coleman as an extreme. I’ve really never met anyone that wanted to look like him. I might even rather look like the Incredible Hulk. I just hope my pants don’t rip off like his. I’m not made of money.[/quote]

It took you 7 years to figure out how to lift properly?

BBriere · January 23, 2010, 1:53am

Anymore questions? Here are some pre made questions and answers:

What kind of routine do you do? I like things like 10x3 or 5x5
Have you ever tried splits? Yep, I’ve tried about everything. Even HIT (blech!)
What injuries did you have? Tendonitis in right knee and both shoulders, hip bursitis
What are you current measurements? 6’1" 205lbs. at about 12% bodyfat. It took me awhile to work off some fat I gained during football season
What is your favorite band? I love Dragonforce
Do you, as a professional educator, believe students are over tested? I don’t believe I’m a professional educator
Did you ever see that episode of King of the Hill where Bill got involved with those bodybuilders? Yep, it had the Macho Man in it
What kind of stuff do you eat? Eggs, fruit, vegetables, protein shakes, and chicken
And you get that bad gas from so much protein? Yep, I blame it on the dog
Ever heard of one of the snake handling churches? No, but I can sure imagine

BBriere · January 23, 2010, 1:56am

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]BBriere wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BBriere wrote:
Fullbody routines are definitely good for people that have poor recovery due to the stressors of life (i.e. work, family, church, etc.). Usually when they are compared to split routines they are compared to routines that involve 3 day splits and low volume. Of course they are going to beat them. That doesn’t mean that they are the absolute best and only way to train.

It’s best to experiment with everything. If you can only fit lifting into your schedule 3 days a week then I say by all means do fullbody. If you have 4 or more days then I would start with at least an upper/lower split. Don’t just take my word on this though. You’re never going to look like Ronnie Coleman doing 3 days a week of lifting, but the fact is that most gym goers don’t want to. My goal has always been about 225 and that is at 6’1". It doesn’t sound impressive, but I’ve been as heavy as 237 and just felt bloated. I got a lot more compliments once I trimmed down to about 210 or so too.[/quote]

What is with you guys thinking that the only choices are “normal” and “RONNIE COLEMAN”? I don’t plan on looking like Ronnie Coleman either. I sure as hell don’t understand those who claim they train SERIOUSLY yet have goals that most should be able to reach in less than 3 years, though.

Things like that make me wonder why they even come here.

I am sure most of us have “stressors of life”. Do you think the rest of us don’t work?

I know one thing, if I was going to put this much time, effort and money into this, there is no way in hell my goals would simply be “average weight for my height…only with ABZ”. Somebody who is 6’1" should have little problem being lean at around 220lbs unless they simply do not have the genetics for this. If that goal takes you a decade, something is very wrong.

How long have you been training?[/quote]

I’ve been training on and off for about 10 years though until about 3 years ago did I have any idea what I was doing. Typically before then I randomly did workouts filled with little effort. My goal is not to be average. The average size for a person my height is about 185. So my goal is about 40 pounds heavier. Anyway, I have the “skinny fat” syndrome. If I gain weight it tends to me around my stomach. If I lose weight it tends to be from everywhere else. It typically gets worse when I train less frequently like hit a body part only once a week. I do fullbody routines when strapped for time, but I prefer upper/lower splits. I was around 210 or 215 around June, but I had to stop doing much lifting for a few months due to injuries and got down to about 195. I’m sure everyone has a job to do, but often times I’m lucky just to be able to train 3 days per week. I teach, coach, volunteer at my church, and usually spend about 2 hours a day just sitting in a car commuting. This typically leaves a good hour to get in and out of the gym so my workouts need to be very quick. Plus, my wife wants to have a little time.

I used Ronnie Coleman as an extreme. I’ve really never met anyone that wanted to look like him. I might even rather look like the Incredible Hulk. I just hope my pants don’t rip off like his. I’m not made of money.[/quote]

It took you 7 years to figure out how to lift properly?[/quote]

Yep, more or less. I was never really serious about it. During the time was about 2 to 3 years of barely working out at all. At other times I trained like some leg extensions, some chest flies, and maybe some curls. That’s why I don’t put much stock into how long someone has trained as compared to what level they are at.

Cephalic_Carnage · January 23, 2010, 2:37am

[quote]BBriere wrote:

What is your favorite band? I love Dragonforce[/quote]

You will never get strong listening to THAT.

Cephalic_Carnage · January 23, 2010, 2:40am

[quote]BBriere wrote:
Anymore questions? Here are some pre made questions and answers:

What kind of routine do you do? I like things like 10x3 or 5x5 [/quote] Those are rep schemes… [quote]
Have you ever tried splits? Yep, I’ve tried about everything. Even HIT (blech!)
What injuries did you have? Tendonitis in right knee and both shoulders, hip bursitis
What are you current measurements? 6’1" 205lbs. at about 12% bodyfat. It took me awhile to work off some fat I gained during football season [/quote] and you already suffer from tendonitis just about everywhere plus hip bursitis? Jesus doesn’t love you… [quote]
What is your favorite band? I love Dragonforce
Do you, as a professional educator, believe students are over tested? I don’t believe I’m a professional educator
Did you ever see that episode of King of the Hill where Bill got involved with those bodybuilders? Yep, it had the Macho Man in it
What kind of stuff do you eat? Eggs, fruit, vegetables, protein shakes, and chicken [/quote] Tells us little. [quote]
And you get that bad gas from so much protein? Yep, I blame it on the dog [/quote] It’s called fiber (metamucil etc, based on psyllium seed husk… Look it up)… And choosing types of protein which don’t get you all bloated. [quote]
Ever heard of one of the snake handling churches? No, but I can sure imagine[/quote] <-?

LarryDavid · January 23, 2010, 2:49am

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

[quote]
5. What is your favorite band? I love Dragonforce
6. Do you, as a professional educator, believe students are over tested? I don’t believe I’m a professional educator
7. Did you ever see that episode of King of the Hill where Bill got involved with those bodybuilders? Yep, it had the Macho Man in it
8. What kind of stuff do you eat? Eggs, fruit, vegetables, protein shakes, and chicken [/quote] Tells us little. [/quote]

Not true.

Question 5 tells us his taste in music sucks :).

BBriere · January 23, 2010, 2:58am

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

[quote]
5. What is your favorite band? I love Dragonforce
6. Do you, as a professional educator, believe students are over tested? I don’t believe I’m a professional educator
7. Did you ever see that episode of King of the Hill where Bill got involved with those bodybuilders? Yep, it had the Macho Man in it
8. What kind of stuff do you eat? Eggs, fruit, vegetables, protein shakes, and chicken [/quote] Tells us little. [/quote]

Not true.

Question 5 tells us his taste in music sucks :).[/quote]

Sometimes while listeing to Draonforce in the gym I play air guitar AND drums! I always make sure someone is watching when I do it. By the way, there are actual snake handling churches in the area of the country I grew up in (not the city) and you can find them on youtube. I also fart at the gym and then look around like somone else did it even if there is nobody else around.

Cephalic_Carnage · January 23, 2010, 2:59am

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

[quote]
5. What is your favorite band? I love Dragonforce
6. Do you, as a professional educator, believe students are over tested? I don’t believe I’m a professional educator
7. Did you ever see that episode of King of the Hill where Bill got involved with those bodybuilders? Yep, it had the Macho Man in it
8. What kind of stuff do you eat? Eggs, fruit, vegetables, protein shakes, and chicken [/quote] Tells us little. [/quote]

Not true.

Question 5 tells us his taste in music sucks :).[/quote]

I already covered that in a previous post, the “tells us little” comment was in response to point 8…

LarryDavid · January 23, 2010, 3:05am

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

haha crap, didn’t see that post.

Professor_X · January 23, 2010, 3:59am

[quote]BBriere wrote:

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]BBriere wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BBriere wrote:
Fullbody routines are definitely good for people that have poor recovery due to the stressors of life (i.e. work, family, church, etc.). Usually when they are compared to split routines they are compared to routines that involve 3 day splits and low volume. Of course they are going to beat them. That doesn’t mean that they are the absolute best and only way to train.

It’s best to experiment with everything. If you can only fit lifting into your schedule 3 days a week then I say by all means do fullbody. If you have 4 or more days then I would start with at least an upper/lower split. Don’t just take my word on this though. You’re never going to look like Ronnie Coleman doing 3 days a week of lifting, but the fact is that most gym goers don’t want to. My goal has always been about 225 and that is at 6’1". It doesn’t sound impressive, but I’ve been as heavy as 237 and just felt bloated. I got a lot more compliments once I trimmed down to about 210 or so too.[/quote]

What is with you guys thinking that the only choices are “normal” and “RONNIE COLEMAN”? I don’t plan on looking like Ronnie Coleman either. I sure as hell don’t understand those who claim they train SERIOUSLY yet have goals that most should be able to reach in less than 3 years, though.

Things like that make me wonder why they even come here.

I am sure most of us have “stressors of life”. Do you think the rest of us don’t work?

I know one thing, if I was going to put this much time, effort and money into this, there is no way in hell my goals would simply be “average weight for my height…only with ABZ”. Somebody who is 6’1" should have little problem being lean at around 220lbs unless they simply do not have the genetics for this. If that goal takes you a decade, something is very wrong.

How long have you been training?[/quote]

I’ve been training on and off for about 10 years though until about 3 years ago did I have any idea what I was doing. Typically before then I randomly did workouts filled with little effort. My goal is not to be average. The average size for a person my height is about 185. So my goal is about 40 pounds heavier. Anyway, I have the “skinny fat” syndrome. If I gain weight it tends to me around my stomach. If I lose weight it tends to be from everywhere else. It typically gets worse when I train less frequently like hit a body part only once a week. I do fullbody routines when strapped for time, but I prefer upper/lower splits. I was around 210 or 215 around June, but I had to stop doing much lifting for a few months due to injuries and got down to about 195. I’m sure everyone has a job to do, but often times I’m lucky just to be able to train 3 days per week. I teach, coach, volunteer at my church, and usually spend about 2 hours a day just sitting in a car commuting. This typically leaves a good hour to get in and out of the gym so my workouts need to be very quick. Plus, my wife wants to have a little time.

I used Ronnie Coleman as an extreme. I’ve really never met anyone that wanted to look like him. I might even rather look like the Incredible Hulk. I just hope my pants don’t rip off like his. I’m not made of money.[/quote]

It took you 7 years to figure out how to lift properly?[/quote]

Yep, more or less. I was never really serious about it. During the time was about 2 to 3 years of barely working out at all. At other times I trained like some leg extensions, some chest flies, and maybe some curls. That’s why I don’t put much stock into how long someone has trained as compared to what level they are at.[/quote]

Oh, neither do we. It is just that when we write that those who aren’t very serious seem to be the ones made for these 3 x a week routines, we get hit with how serious all of these people are as if they are on the same level as the rest of us.

I personally thank you for being truthful about your progress. I just don’t think some of you really understand how serious some of us take this.

To get my professional degree took ALL of my time. I still made lifting a large priority…because that was important to me. In spite of all of that, I still worked out on average about 6 days a week. I was also in and out of the gym most days in about 40min.

I don’t personally understand training for ten whole years only to make the progress you have. I have better things to do with my time than half ass my way through some activity that I make little to no progress on. My time is too valuable for that and I would consider that a wasted ten years.

You will NEVER get that decade back. It’s gone and your body does not respond the same as it did ten years ago.

It just seems some of you actually search out ways to make lesser progress…and that makes no sense to me.

Carlitosway · January 23, 2010, 4:05am

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

[quote]BBriere wrote:

What is your favorite band? I love Dragonforce[/quote]

You will never get strong listening to THAT.

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If some of the members from Blind Guardian dropped some turds, Dragonforce still couldn’t even compare to their shit.

BBriere · January 23, 2010, 12:34pm