[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
Alpha weight trained his entire body 3x a week, period! …He is also a fan of Waterbury’s book Muscle Revolution and uses workouts from it. Tell me how this is not following Waterbury’s methods!!! Have you ever read any of his books? If you have you would know he throws in direct arm work such as barbell curls, hammer curls, rope p downs, skull crushers, preacher curls you name it into his workouts… Why are you commenting on something you know so little about? Stick to the steroid forum young guru.
Waterbury wouldn’t be around for as long as he has been and as successful as he has been if his methods didn’t work… This topic turned ugly when the OP said his style of training is ‘healthier’ than regular bodybuilding training which is retarded and does deserve some criticism. But you CAN build a badass physique training your full body 3x a week if workouts are structured well.
I think Waterbury dietary and lifestyle recommendations shun some people from his training methods more than anything else. In his last book Huge in a Hurry he recommends something like a 1/4 cup of organic raisins and a shake post workout when trying to gain mass. LOL no one wants to hear that foo foo shit… Especially no one trying to pursue something as elusive as bodybuilding… Would a 1/4 cup of organic raisins do the trick? Probably… Will I be following that recommendation? HELL NO! I’ma slam my 10 g peptopro/10 g of added leucine/5g bcaa’s/5 g creatine/2g beta-alanine/60g of waxy maize starch! That foo foo recommendation than effects my view on his training… Train 3x a week?! F that foo foo shit I’ma hit it hard 5x a week… F’in organic raisins…[/quote]
Anyone who uses the term “I’ma” is legit in my book. Keep preaching big man.
[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
Alpha weight trained his entire body 3x a week, period! …He is also a fan of Waterbury’s book Muscle Revolution and uses workouts from it. Tell me how this is not following Waterbury’s methods!!! Have you ever read any of his books? If you have you would know he throws in direct arm work such as barbell curls, hammer curls, rope p downs, skull crushers, preacher curls you name it into his workouts… Why are you commenting on something you know so little about? Stick to the steroid forum young guru.
Waterbury wouldn’t be around for as long as he has been and as successful as he has been if his methods didn’t work… This topic turned ugly when the OP said his style of training is ‘healthier’ than regular bodybuilding training which is retarded and does deserve some criticism. But you CAN build a badass physique training your full body 3x a week if workouts are structured well.
I think Waterbury dietary and lifestyle recommendations shun some people from his training methods more than anything else. In his last book Huge in a Hurry he recommends something like a 1/4 cup of organic raisins and a shake post workout when trying to gain mass. LOL no one wants to hear that foo foo shit… Especially no one trying to pursue something as elusive as bodybuilding… Would a 1/4 cup of organic raisins do the trick? Probably… Will I be following that recommendation? HELL NO! I’ma slam my 10 g peptopro/10 g of added leucine/5g bcaa’s/5 g creatine/2g beta-alanine/60g of waxy maize starch! That foo foo recommendation than effects my view on his training… Train 3x a week?! F that foo foo shit I’ma hit it hard 5x a week… F’in organic raisins…[/quote]
I no longer trust Drew’s recommendation of CW’s work because of his now “intimate” relationship with him. You know, in the same way that Drew said he couldn’t trust Stu’s or X’s recommendation of Biotest supplements because of their “intimate” relationship with the company.
[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
Man you guys are vicious… To the OP dont worry about Waterbury he’s doing his thing. By the way ‘Alpha’ followed Waterburys workouts and he pwns just about EVERYONE on this site.[/quote]
X2 that guy was a beast to say the least in strength AND conditioning… he also wasnt concerned with flame wars over whos split or ramp method was superior… he just said to do what works for YOU
In a bodybuilding forum and jackasses actually defend it by acting as if everyone is simply responding to some issue about “splits vs full body”?
This is NOT the fucking fitness forum.
Also this:
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I no longer trust Drew’s recommendation of CW’s work because of his now “intimate” relationship with him. You know, in the same way that Drew said he couldn’t trust Stu’s or X’s recommendation of Biotest supplements because of their “intimate” relationship with the company.[/quote]
was perfect.
[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
Alpha weight trained his entire body 3x a week, period! …He is also a fan of Waterbury’s book Muscle Revolution and uses workouts from it. Tell me how this is not following Waterbury’s methods!!! Have you ever read any of his books? If you have you would know he throws in direct arm work such as barbell curls, hammer curls, rope p downs, skull crushers, preacher curls you name it into his workouts… Why are you commenting on something you know so little about? Stick to the steroid forum young guru.
Waterbury wouldn’t be around for as long as he has been and as successful as he has been if his methods didn’t work… This topic turned ugly when the OP said his style of training is ‘healthier’ than regular bodybuilding training which is retarded and does deserve some criticism. But you CAN build a badass physique training your full body 3x a week if workouts are structured well.
I think Waterbury dietary and lifestyle recommendations shun some people from his training methods more than anything else. In his last book Huge in a Hurry he recommends something like a 1/4 cup of organic raisins and a shake post workout when trying to gain mass. LOL no one wants to hear that foo foo shit… Especially no one trying to pursue something as elusive as bodybuilding… Would a 1/4 cup of organic raisins do the trick? Probably… Will I be following that recommendation? HELL NO! I’ma slam my 10 g peptopro/10 g of added leucine/5g bcaa’s/5 g creatine/2g beta-alanine/60g of waxy maize starch! That foo foo recommendation than effects my view on his training… Train 3x a week?! F that foo foo shit I’ma hit it hard 5x a week… F’in organic raisins…[/quote]
I no longer trust Drew’s recommendation of CW’s work because of his now “intimate” relationship with him. You know, in the same way that Drew said he couldn’t trust Stu’s or X’s recommendation of Biotest supplements because of their “intimate” relationship with the company. [/quote]
While me and Waterbury do have a relationship with my purchase of his book, he has yet to fly me out to his gym to try and convince me why his training methods work. Now THAT would be an intimate relationship, almost intense.
[quote]Blackhole wrote:
Chad never gets the credit he deserves… He hinted about peri-workout nutrition before it became the flavor of the week, he wrote extensively about how to recruit fast-twitch fibers, and his workouts are more geared towards fitness (which is a little bit more healthy by the way) than most authors who are more geared toward bodybuilding. [/quote]
Then why the fuck are you in this forum? Care to post those pictures?[/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? And what’s your point with “those pictures”? Did you dislike my comment about fitness being a little bit more healthier than bodybuilding? Because there’s a fair share of potential health problems that can arise from being too heavy and seeking too much muscle mass.
THIS IS THE BODYBUILDING FORUM. There’s a separate conditioning forum. YOu need to post THERE.
Yoga is great for health as well, better than pure bodybuilding but this is not the forum to post about that.
There’s a martial arts forum if you want to hit harder or faster.
There’s a powerlifting forum if you want to improve the big 3.
[quote]Blackhole wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Blackhole wrote:
Chad never gets the credit he deserves… He hinted about peri-workout nutrition before it became the flavor of the week, he wrote extensively about how to recruit fast-twitch fibers, and his workouts are more geared towards fitness (which is a little bit more healthy by the way) than most authors who are more geared toward bodybuilding. [/quote]
Then why the fuck are you in this forum? Care to post those pictures?[/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? And what’s your point with “those pictures”? Did you dislike my comment about fitness being a little bit more healthier than bodybuilding? Because there’s a fair share of potential health problems that can arise from being too heavy and seeking too much muscle mass.[/quote]
OT, its always interesting when someone’s posts betray a physique far less developed than the one they’re passing off as their own.
However, its not really easy to prove this online, given the number of south american bodybuilders who’ve posted “enough” pictures online for ANYONE to completely swipe their identity on a western-dominated forum. Remember the guy who pretended to be a brazilian bodybuilder on a different thread?
EDIT: LOL, I just read our friend’s stats. Never mind, it has to be him.
[quote]Blackhole wrote:
Chad never gets the credit he deserves… He hinted about peri-workout nutrition before it became the flavor of the week, he wrote extensively about how to recruit fast-twitch fibers, and his workouts are more geared towards fitness (which is a little bit more healthy by the way) than most authors who are more geared toward bodybuilding. [/quote]
Then why the fuck are you in this forum? Care to post those pictures?[/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? And what’s your point with “those pictures”? Did you dislike my comment about fitness being a little bit more healthier than bodybuilding? Because there’s a fair share of potential health problems that can arise from being too heavy and seeking too much muscle mass.[/quote]
LOL. Is ANYONE logging into the conditioning forum and acting like this? Has there been even one post there where a bodybuilder from this forum went in there and started talking about how their goals were lesser in some way?
I mean, just one?
If not, then what makes you idiots keep coming in here and then what makes you dense enough to act surprised that people do not want to hear what you have to say?
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
I no longer trust Drew’s recommendation of CW’s work because of his now “intimate” relationship with him. You know, in the same way that Drew said he couldn’t trust Stu’s or X’s recommendation of Biotest supplements because of their “intimate” relationship with the company. [/quote]
LOL…
Not getting involved in the actual thread topic, but that was damn funny bro.
First, I don’t really care what anybody says about Waterbury, I was just curious if anybody knew what he was up to. Second, I got good results (note: I didn’t say I got Amazing results as someone claimed) from his programs. These were better results than I got from a program like HSS-100.
[quote]Blackhole wrote:
Chad never gets the credit he deserves… He hinted about peri-workout nutrition before it became the flavor of the week, he wrote extensively about how to recruit fast-twitch fibers, and his workouts are more geared towards fitness (which is a little bit more healthy by the way) than most authors who are more geared toward bodybuilding. [/quote]
There is no bodybuilding vs. “fitness” dichotomy. If you’re not lifting weights to make your muscles bigger, just what the hell are you doing? There is no separate dimension of physical improvement called “fitness” apart from making your muscles bigger and stronger.
[quote]BBriere wrote:
First, I don’t really care what anybody says about Waterbury, I was just curious if anybody knew what he was up to. Second, I got good results (note: I didn’t say I got Amazing results as someone claimed) from his programs. These were better results than I got from a program like HSS-100.[/quote]
…and that means pure shit on this forum unless you now look impressive enough or have made enough gains that people with BODYBUILDING GOALS of some kind would want to match it.
No one gives a shit if you gained “5lbs using HSS-100” and a whole “9lbs following Waterbury”.
If you haven’t even made gains you are proud enough to show off, what does it matter here?
You see, even numbers alone don’t give the information that a picture does. I mentioned HIT before. I have had some of them rattle off all of their numbers proving their progress only to see a picture of them that shows someone who doesn’t look like they lift weights seriously at all.
… people use the word “troll” way too much on this forum anyway. Whatever happened to JACKASS, LOSER, and IDIOT? All these are usually a more apt description of these guys than “troll.”
Ok, sorry I didn’t post a forum to your liking. It wasn’t designed to be a bodybuilding vs. Waterbury argument anyway. If you don’t like Waterbury I’m not sure why you looked at it, but more power to you.
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
OT, its always interesting when someone’s posts betray a physique far less developed than the one they’re passing off as their own.
However, its not really easy to prove this online, given the number of south american bodybuilders who’ve posted “enough” pictures online for ANYONE to completely swipe their identity on a western-dominated forum. Remember the guy who pretended to be a brazilian bodybuilder on a different thread?
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Who did that? I you want I will discredit the sob.
Always here to help.