He’s done it again, now weighing around 90kg/198lbs.
Allan Jokinen attending a Finnish TV show, going for a max attempt at 175kg/386lbs.
my 1.5 cents:
dips are a wild card IMHO. some people are very good at them, can do what to me seems like recikulonk amounts of weights, but not be that impressive in the other big lifts. like the overhead press, bench, snatch, ect.
an old training partner of mine NEVER hit a raw 400lb bench, (370-380), but at 270lbs, he could rep dips with 200lbs easy.
some big benchers, can dip monster weight, some monster benchers (especially the REALLY big guys) cant dip shit.
I guess what I am trying to say is some people have the “attacments” to dip big and others just do not.
I am NOT a good dipper. when i had healthy shoulders and elbows, most i could do was 75-100lbs at 240-260lbs bw. now I do dips with pretty much just bodyweight because my shoulders are so bad, i cannot bench an empty bar and even do pushpups right now. for some reason dips (and overhead pressing) does not bother my shoulders as much.
I love the “pump” dips give me in my upper body. I get all swole and veiny, and that makes the wifey hot and can get me laid from time to time. LOL
so dip big if you can!
Can’t agree with you more, but that’s how it works with most lifts, or really anything.
My latest workout. Trying out my new diprack, and checking my strength for upcoming program.
I wish I could do dips. They fucking chew up my rotators. This one time I did 50 dips in a workout, and for the next 4 days i could barely move my arms, the shoulders fucking hurt so bad. At that point I realized I just couldn’t do them on a regular basis.
Many commercial gyms use a standardized dip bars with a short width between the bars. Those destroy my rotators. The ones that taper out are perfectly fine for me. Right now Im stuck with the standardized ones so I wont be doing dips for awhile.
i will try and focus only on overhead movements and heavy weighted dips for the next months and will look how it affects my bench. since my tris are my main weakness and i am pretty good off the chest i think it will help. if i hit my 1rm after 3 months of no benching i am more than satisfied.
at this moment i am dipping +60kg for 5 @ 80kg. i am planning to go to +65 in 4-5 weeks.
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I really like weighted dips, but they are always scheduled last in the workout.
[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Many commercial gyms use a standardized dip bars with a short width between the bars. Those destroy my rotators. The ones that taper out are perfectly fine for me. Right now Im stuck with the standardized ones so I wont be doing dips for awhile. [/quote]
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THIS
recent post from my training log in the old farts forum:
"one thing to note. dips are very hard for me with my bad shoulders and elbows. but this one particular gym I use in Bama when I visit, has a dip stand with fat bar grips, and shaped like a V. i notice that with this set up, I can dip with a greater range of motion and with lots more weight that the setup i have in cali at the commercial gym I use and my garage gym. i did 20 body weight dips deep and then 7 reps with a 50lb dumbbell! damn, sometimes here in in cali, I cant even do bodyweight for reps unless i cut the ROM short.
interesting…thoughts anybody? "
From todays workout.
I’m considering throwing these in again.
Of the two gyms I workout at routinely, one has an excellent dip set up and the other only has one of those assisted Dip/Chin machines. I usually try to line up my upper body days to workout at the good gym, but sadly today that just won’t happen.
Last week I worked up to BW (170) + and 85 Lb dumbbell attached for 5, love them.
I don’t remember where I picked this up, but I’ve found that when I hold my shoulders down and back (like benching), I can do dips with no shoulder trouble.
I would love start using dips again but the setup at my gym is basically made to tear up your shoulders. Its a cheap design that has this commercialized width that works well for only small women. Im in the process of welding my own. Im trying to get dimensions to build one of the better v-tapered dip bars.
FWIW I do dips regularly, but only as an accesory. At 145 bw, I do 3 sets of 10 with 70 pounds nothing special, but thanks to this thread I want to know how much I could do for four reps.
[quote]S.Fisher_47 wrote:
FWIW I do dips regularly, but only as an accesory. At 145 bw, I do 3 sets of 10 with 70 pounds nothing special, but thanks to this thread I want to know how much I could do for four reps.[/quote]
Nice going, I started with 10 reps in the beginning to get my body abdapted, and later moved on to heaver weights, 3-5 rep.
I don’t know if dips are good for bench or not. I am good at them and have done 180x4@164, but I think that benching is better for benching than dips. Dips are more for us small guys though. I don’t know of too many big guys who like them. My shoulders are probably better now than when I cut back on the dips though. I don’t know why.
BB
[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
I don’t know if dips are good for bench or not. I am good at them and have done 180x4@164, but I think that benching is better for benching than dips. Dips are more for us small guys though. I don’t know of too many big guys who like them. My shoulders are probably better now than when I cut back on the dips though. I don’t know why.
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Well if “big guys” don’t like them is cause they’re to weak lbs for lbs, or just can’t do them.
And of course the bench help the bench more than dips…Pretty obvious.
a good dip station makes all the difference in heavy weighted dips. The best ones seem to have very fat handeles making it more sturdy on the wrist. I have one like this at my house, from body soild(fairly inexpensive), the station at my gym sucks. I tired to apply the fat gripz to the handels there and it really helped, however still a little tipsy.
My PR is BW=220+90lbs. added weight for 6 soild reps
I would agree they’re a good exercise to help w/ bench press
On a few ocassion I trained at a friend’s gym whcih had chains to drape around your neck, I thought they worked good, especially for drop sets ( not to mention they look really hardcore). Also on a few ocassion I’ve tried putting a band behind my neck and achoring it to the ground. kinda cool b/c the lift becomes harder at the top portion, I assume helping w/ lockout strength. Only problem was increased eccentric work which could be hell for a balky shoulder.
All the videos posted are very impressive, keep up the good work boyz.
I think dips are one of those movements that works for some and not all for others. A while back I remember reading a really good article on dips for improving bench strength, and the basic premise of the article was that until a lifter was handling at least their bodyweight in added resistance on dips, then the carryover to the bench was minimal.
The “go to” guy for looking at what dips can do strength wise was by far Pat Casey. First ever to bench over 600 (615), he ended up reaching 380 for a single for dips, knocking out multiple sets with 200 pounds like it was a warm up.
Did dips yesterday for the first time in a while. Got 75# for 13 @ 201#