I’m one of the men that admits that big butts on women ARE attractive. I think the guys that can’t admit that are the same ones who say they would “never want to get that big”. That has been my experience.
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Guys, stop kidding yourselves. Most women [I said most] don’t find the hulked out look attractive. Not that it would automatically eliminate the guy from getting a date with said woman, but a womans idea of “muscular” is way different from ours. I’m not huge by any means [5’9 180lbs] but I’m lean and look like I workout [whatever that means] and I get complimented on my physique pretty often. Not saying that your average woman couldn’t/wouldn’t appreciate the level of work and commitment that a man puts into his body, but there reaches a point where a woman [again, most women] find too much muscularity unattractive. Guys get huge to swing dicks with other guys.[/quote]
Most women you deal with. Most women I deal with love my size and muscularity. But then, both our perspectives are skewed by our past experiences and women who are attracted to our differing physiques. My basic point, telling us about what women who are physically attracted to you like is about as valid as me telling you what women who are attracted to me like.
What I can say is I have been found attractive by women who swore up and down before they met me that they would never want to be with a man my size just as I have met plenty of non-black women who swore up and down before they met me they would never date a black man. If you know who you are and are confident and are strong (physically and mentally) women will find you attractive, period. [/quote]
Well said. I have had patients call me back at the clinic to ask me out based on my size and how I treated them. Women may SAY they don’t like muscles but unless you really believe guys with arms over 18" simply never have sex at all, it may be time to revamp the notion that they truly find it “unattractive” when it counts.
We already know most women don’t view “muscular” the same as us…if for no other reason than there are so few really big guys around lately that the look appears odd to them…much like finding people who AREN’T obese at a buffet in one of America’s fattest cities.
They seem to like it a lot once they understand what they are looking at.
What do you guys expect them to say when the only time they may even see someone really muscular is once every 5 years randomly in person or in some rare magazine?
If more guys weren’t obese or frail looking, they would be more adjusted to what muscles even look like.
MEN today are why women now don’t understand what a muscular arm looks like at all…and why someone like Tobey McGwire can actually pass as built.
Blame the rest of the pussies who claim to be men.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Blame the rest of the pussies who claim to be men.[/quote]
Blame them? I thank them! It just makes me stand out more 
If I had to choose one, I’d boink Vernon Davis.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
…and why someone like Tobey McGwire can actually pass as built.
Blame the rest of the pussies who claim to be men.[/quote]
I lol’d
Patrick Swayze in roadhouse is the new Brad Pitt in fight club.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Guys, stop kidding yourselves. Most women [I said most] don’t find the hulked out look attractive. Not that it would automatically eliminate the guy from getting a date with said woman, but a womans idea of “muscular” is way different from ours. I’m not huge by any means [5’9 180lbs] but I’m lean and look like I workout [whatever that means] and I get complimented on my physique pretty often. Not saying that your average woman couldn’t/wouldn’t appreciate the level of work and commitment that a man puts into his body, but there reaches a point where a woman [again, most women] find too much muscularity unattractive. Guys get huge to swing dicks with other guys.[/quote]
Most women you deal with. Most women I deal with love my size and muscularity. But then, both our perspectives are skewed by our past experiences and women who are attracted to our differing physiques. My basic point, telling us about what women who are physically attracted to you like is about as valid as me telling you what women who are attracted to me like.
What I can say is I have been found attractive by women who swore up and down before they met me that they would never want to be with a man my size just as I have met plenty of non-black women who swore up and down before they met me they would never date a black man. If you know who you are and are confident and are strong (physically and mentally) women will find you attractive, period. [/quote]
Well said. I have had patients call me back at the clinic to ask me out based on my size and how I treated them. Women may SAY they don’t like muscles but unless you really believe guys with arms over 18" simply never have sex at all, it may be time to revamp the notion that they truly find it “unattractive” when it counts.
We already know most women don’t view “muscular” the same as us…if for no other reason than there are so few really big guys around lately that the look appears odd to them…much like finding people who AREN’T obese at a buffet in one of America’s fattest cities.
They seem to like it a lot once they understand what they are looking at.
What do you guys expect them to say when the only time they may even see someone really muscular is once every 5 years randomly in person or in some rare magazine?
If more guys weren’t obese or frail looking, they would be more adjusted to what muscles even look like.
MEN today are why women now don’t understand what a muscular arm looks like at all…and why someone like Tobey McGwire can actually pass as built.
Blame the rest of the pussies who claim to be men.[/quote]
X… you surprise me a lot. Especially with one of the first posts on The Last Airbender thread lol. I now understand why you are so universally liked.
I can always respect a guy with a good head on his shoulders.
I think that was spot on professor X.
Here is a new wrinkle:
Studies have shown that women show a preference for more masculine features the closer they are to ovulating. They prefer softer features at a rate proportional to the distance from optimal fertility.
They want vernon to knock em up, and they want brad (or a guy with brad looks more likely) to hang around and help with the nurturing
CLIFFSNOTES:
Preference will vary based on that time of the month.
[quote]Eli B wrote:
I think that was spot on professor X.
Here is a new wrinkle:
Studies have shown that women show a preference for more masculine features the closer they are to ovulating. They prefer softer features at a rate proportional to the distance from optimal fertility.
They want vernon to knock em up, and they want brad (or a guy with brad looks more likely) to hang around and help with the nurturing
CLIFFSNOTES:
Preference will vary based on that time of the month.[/quote]
Those studies deal more with facial features and neck thickness. A wide, square jaw and thick neck have some kind of evolutionary appeal as a hunter/gatherer and provider. Fortunately for me everyone tells me I look like a pitbull…
What is with you men and always zeroing in on one thing? Women don’t think like that. If you ask if a girl/woman likes men with big muscles and their general opinion is no, then they will say no. However, women aren’t linear and single focus like men. It is a sliding scale, and that no is always mixed in with the overall yeses and nos until the balance tips to one side or the other.
- You are not your muscles.
- You are not your hair.
- You are not your job.
- You are not your attitude.
- You are not your clothes.
- You are not your salary.
- You are not your opinions.
- You are not your possessions.
You are ALL of those things, and women will look at ALL of them together and combine them and come out with their own little score, and you’ll either get lucky or you won’t.
If a woman says that she doesn’t like big muscles on a guy, then goes out with big a guy with big muscles, it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know what she wants…it means that she put your entire self through her mental algorithm and all of it combined came back positive.
Sheesh. You men are so simple minded sometimes 
[quote]Squiggles wrote:
Sheesh. You men are so simple minded sometimes :D[/quote]
Correct, this is why we are at peace, and cannot, for the life of us, understand women.
[quote]guel0013 wrote:
I don’t believe that is the best post ever. It doesn’t even discuss the relative merits of each physique.[/quote]
that’s because this is not a homo thread and you young guys need to quit with the narcissistic masturbation
[quote]Squiggles wrote:
What is with you men and always zeroing in on one thing? Women don’t think like that. If you ask if a girl/woman likes men with big muscles and their general opinion is no, then they will say no. However, women aren’t linear and single focus like men. It is a sliding scale, and that no is always mixed in with the overall yeses and nos until the balance tips to one side or the other.
- You are not your muscles.
- You are not your hair.
- You are not your job.
- You are not your attitude.
- You are not your clothes.
- You are not your salary.
- You are not your opinions.
- You are not your possessions.
You are ALL of those things, and women will look at ALL of them together and combine them and come out with their own little score, and you’ll either get lucky or you won’t.
If a woman says that she doesn’t like big muscles on a guy, then goes out with big a guy with big muscles, it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know what she wants…it means that she put your entire self through her mental algorithm and all of it combined came back positive.
Sheesh. You men are so simple minded sometimes :D[/quote]
the (mostly pointless, imo) discussion was about what women want, not what women want people to think they want.
and we’re clear and striaghtforward, not simple minded
Different women find different physical traits and different personality traits attractive, and find some of those traits more important than others. So really, what women want, in the end, is to get me a sammich!
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
I think that was spot on professor X.
Here is a new wrinkle:
Studies have shown that women show a preference for more masculine features the closer they are to ovulating. They prefer softer features at a rate proportional to the distance from optimal fertility.
They want vernon to knock em up, and they want brad (or a guy with brad looks more likely) to hang around and help with the nurturing
CLIFFSNOTES:
Preference will vary based on that time of the month.[/quote]
Those studies deal more with facial features and neck thickness. A wide, square jaw and thick neck have some kind of evolutionary appeal as a hunter/gatherer and provider. Fortunately for me everyone tells me I look like a pitbull…
[/quote]
True…However Im thinking vernon davis probably has a thicker neck than brad pitt because of his build which is what we are discussing (setting aside skin pigmentation).
But I think its reasonable (even if not scientific) to extrapolate from these findings that because of an association with black men and virility women may be more attracted to built black men when they are ovulating.
it varies depending on how far or close they are to menstruating.
[quote]Squiggles wrote:
What is with you men and always zeroing in on one thing? Women don’t think like that. If you ask if a girl/woman likes men with big muscles and their general opinion is no, then they will say no. However, women aren’t linear and single focus like men. It is a sliding scale, and that no is always mixed in with the overall yeses and nos until the balance tips to one side or the other.
- You are not your muscles.
- You are not your hair.
- You are not your job.
- You are not your attitude.
- You are not your clothes.
- You are not your salary.
- You are not your opinions.
- You are not your possessions.
You are ALL of those things, and women will look at ALL of them together and combine them and come out with their own little score, and you’ll either get lucky or you won’t.
If a woman says that she doesn’t like big muscles on a guy, then goes out with big a guy with big muscles, it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know what she wants…it means that she put your entire self through her mental algorithm and all of it combined came back positive.
Sheesh. You men are so simple minded sometimes :D[/quote]
I have to call bullshit.
If a woman is asked whether she likes guys with big muscles…AND SAYS NO…this is supposed to mean “yes, maybe, if he has eyes like my dad, a big toe that resembles our family cat Scruffles, likes my mom’s pumpkin pie, and has nice teeth along with 500 other variables that need to be added into a …what did you call it?..MENTAL ALGORITHM”???
Yet, somehow, this means we are not supposed to think this is because they don’t know what they want?
If someone asks me if I want pizza, I either want pizza or I don’t want pizza. There is no equation, algorithm, or Google Map search involved in my answer.
Why?
Because I know what I want, and the woman who just lied to me doesn’t.
Totally ripped liek Shiya Lebuff
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Squiggles wrote:
What is with you men and always zeroing in on one thing? Women don’t think like that. If you ask if a girl/woman likes men with big muscles and their general opinion is no, then they will say no. However, women aren’t linear and single focus like men. It is a sliding scale, and that no is always mixed in with the overall yeses and nos until the balance tips to one side or the other.
- You are not your muscles.
- You are not your hair.
- You are not your job.
- You are not your attitude.
- You are not your clothes.
- You are not your salary.
- You are not your opinions.
- You are not your possessions.
You are ALL of those things, and women will look at ALL of them together and combine them and come out with their own little score, and you’ll either get lucky or you won’t.
If a woman says that she doesn’t like big muscles on a guy, then goes out with big a guy with big muscles, it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know what she wants…it means that she put your entire self through her mental algorithm and all of it combined came back positive.
Sheesh. You men are so simple minded sometimes :D[/quote]
I have to call bullshit.
If a woman is asked whether she likes guys with big muscles…AND SAYS NO…this is supposed to mean “yes, maybe, if he has eyes like my dad, a big toe that resembles our family cat Scruffles, likes my mom’s pumpkin pie, and has nice teeth along with 500 other variables that need to be added into a …what did you call it?..MENTAL ALGORITHM”???
Yet, somehow, this means we are not supposed to think this is because they don’t know what they want?
If someone asks me if I want pizza, I either want pizza or I don’t want pizza. There is no equation, algorithm, or Google Map search involved in my answer.
Why?
Because I know what I want, and the woman who just lied to me doesn’t.[/quote]
How is asking a woman if she likes big muscles and not allowing any other variables any different than me asking if you like blondes and then if you say yes calling you a liar when you won’t date a 600 pound natural blonde?
Of course there are variables. Every human being on the planet uses more than ONE trait to pick a partner.
People are not pizza.