Vernon Davis or Brad Pitt (What Women Want?)

WhiteFlash · March 18, 2010, 5:12am

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:
I think that was spot on professor X.

Here is a new wrinkle:

Studies have shown that women show a preference for more masculine features the closer they are to ovulating. They prefer softer features at a rate proportional to the distance from optimal fertility.

They want vernon to knock em up, and they want brad (or a guy with brad looks more likely) to hang around and help with the nurturing

CLIFFSNOTES:
Preference will vary based on that time of the month.[/quote]

Those studies deal more with facial features and neck thickness. A wide, square jaw and thick neck have some kind of evolutionary appeal as a hunter/gatherer and provider. Fortunately for me everyone tells me I look like a pitbull…
[/quote]

True…However Im thinking vernon davis probably has a thicker neck than brad pitt because of his build which is what we are discussing (setting aside skin pigmentation).

But I think its reasonable (even if not scientific) to extrapolate from these findings that because of an association with black men and virility women may be more attracted to built black men when they are ovulating.[/quote]

??? Are you being serious? Most non black women I know would never fuck a black guy, no matter how thick his neck [insert joke here]. And what the fuck does “association with black men and virility” even mean? Is this late 1700’s slavery propagnda coming to light? A woman will find attractive what she finds appealing, color, supposed virility or neck thickness be damned.

Carlitosway · March 18, 2010, 5:29am

[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

If someone asks me if I want pizza, I either want pizza or I don’t want pizza. There is no equation, algorithm, or Google Map search involved in my answer.

Why?

Because I know what I want, and the woman who just lied to me doesn’t.[/quote]

Of course there are variables. Every human being on the planet uses more than ONE trait to pick a partner.

People are not pizza.
[/quote]

oh man this convo gave me a good laugh…yet I agreeee woman= way more emotional and men=more logical. There’s a reason why that gorgeous chic will fall head over heels for that goofy chubby guy or that skinny dorky looking guy. The guys may be average/above in some aspects of their life but the way they make them “feel” is what wins it in the end. Woman have no clue, they have so many subconscious emotional buttons that can be pressed and some guys can do it naturally while others have to work a bit of their charm/wit.

rcfromdb · March 18, 2010, 5:36am

The ridiculous chauvinistic opinions in here are hilarious and the obvious outcome of a male-dominated website.lol

steadfastred · March 18, 2010, 6:27am

Women want a guy with a level 90 paladin in World of Warcraft.

/thread

optheta · March 18, 2010, 7:06am

[quote]steadfastred wrote:
Women want a guy with a level 90 paladin in World of Warcraft.

/thread[/quote]

SIlly NOOB level cap is 80 and Expac will only make it 85 when it comes out soo obviously you ain’t getting lucky

Eli_B · March 18, 2010, 7:07am

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:
I think that was spot on professor X.

Here is a new wrinkle:

Studies have shown that women show a preference for more masculine features the closer they are to ovulating. They prefer softer features at a rate proportional to the distance from optimal fertility.

They want vernon to knock em up, and they want brad (or a guy with brad looks more likely) to hang around and help with the nurturing

CLIFFSNOTES:
Preference will vary based on that time of the month.[/quote]

Those studies deal more with facial features and neck thickness. A wide, square jaw and thick neck have some kind of evolutionary appeal as a hunter/gatherer and provider. Fortunately for me everyone tells me I look like a pitbull…
[/quote]

True…However Im thinking vernon davis probably has a thicker neck than brad pitt because of his build which is what we are discussing (setting aside skin pigmentation).

But I think its reasonable (even if not scientific) to extrapolate from these findings that because of an association with black men and virility women may be more attracted to built black men when they are ovulating.[/quote]

??? Are you being serious? Most non black women I know would never fuck a black guy, no matter how thick his neck [insert joke here]. And what the fuck does “association with black men and virility” even mean? Is this late 1700’s slavery propagnda coming to light? A woman will find attractive what she finds appealing, color, supposed virility or neck thickness be damned.[/quote]

I am being serious. Im not quite sure what you are finding a problem with. You agreed that womens desires may change during different cycles of menstruation/ovulation. I am only suggesting that racial stereotypes may factor into the equation. It would certainly make for an interesting study.

Psychology is a helluva drug. I think stereotypes about black males are live and well, and that they affect peoples behavior even if I don’t endorse them.

As to what your non black women friends tell you…please refer to professor x’s post. What they do, say they would do, and actually may want to do from time to time will differ.

young_n · March 18, 2010, 7:15am

[quote]steadfastred wrote:
Women want a guy with a level 90 paladin in World of Warcraft.

/thread[/quote]

hahaha
x fucking 2

that shit is funny

young_n · March 18, 2010, 7:16am

[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Squiggles wrote:
What is with you men and always zeroing in on one thing? Women don’t think like that. If you ask if a girl/woman likes men with big muscles and their general opinion is no, then they will say no. However, women aren’t linear and single focus like men. It is a sliding scale, and that no is always mixed in with the overall yeses and nos until the balance tips to one side or the other.

You are not your muscles.
You are not your hair.
You are not your job.
You are not your attitude.
You are not your clothes.
You are not your salary.
You are not your opinions.
You are not your possessions.

You are ALL of those things, and women will look at ALL of them together and combine them and come out with their own little score, and you’ll either get lucky or you won’t.

If a woman says that she doesn’t like big muscles on a guy, then goes out with big a guy with big muscles, it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know what she wants…it means that she put your entire self through her mental algorithm and all of it combined came back positive.

Sheesh. You men are so simple minded sometimes :D[/quote]

I have to call bullshit.

If a woman is asked whether she likes guys with big muscles…AND SAYS NO…this is supposed to mean “yes, maybe, if he has eyes like my dad, a big toe that resembles our family cat Scruffles, likes my mom’s pumpkin pie, and has nice teeth along with 500 other variables that need to be added into a …what did you call it?..MENTAL ALGORITHM”???

Yet, somehow, this means we are not supposed to think this is because they don’t know what they want?

If someone asks me if I want pizza, I either want pizza or I don’t want pizza. There is no equation, algorithm, or Google Map search involved in my answer.

Why?

Because I know what I want, and the woman who just lied to me doesn’t.[/quote]

How is asking a woman if she likes big muscles and not allowing any other variables any different than me asking if you like blondes and then if you say yes calling you a liar when you won’t date a 600 pound natural blonde?

Of course there are variables. Every human being on the planet uses more than ONE trait to pick a partner.

People are not pizza.
[/quote]

now this is interesting to read

young_n · March 18, 2010, 7:30am

o yea while im at it, vernon davis sucks, (i am not a brad pitt fan)

only reason i make that statement is because vernon really does suck, i cant understand why he even got consideration for the pro bowl, how maany fucking times did he drop the fucking ball?! to many fucking times to count, the only fucking thing he is good at is . . . . . nothing, he cant block properly, he has butterfingers, and if he does manage to make a catch he cant do much after that, there were times that i saw him just drop to the ground after making a catch, i mean he was the 1st round draft pick for the team that drafted him, but he is just all hype, the only fucking reason he got consideration for the pro bowl was because he caught so many damn TDs and that only happened because his QB threw it PERFECTLY to him on a PERFECTLY drawn out play, and most of the catches came usually when the safeties split, or the wideouts played decoy, or all he did was stutter step on a linebacker, but he really aint getting much done,
i dont remember him catching many balls with a cover 2 or 1 defense, when he was up against a decent defense his numbers always dropped

just thought i throw that out there . . . . . it might help the females decide between vernon or brad pitt

kaisermetal · March 18, 2010, 7:41am

I just say one thing to woman who are very evil and try to this to some poor fellas

Rodimus_Black · March 18, 2010, 8:51am

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:
I think that was spot on professor X.

Here is a new wrinkle:

Studies have shown that women show a preference for more masculine features the closer they are to ovulating. They prefer softer features at a rate proportional to the distance from optimal fertility.

They want vernon to knock em up, and they want brad (or a guy with brad looks more likely) to hang around and help with the nurturing

CLIFFSNOTES:
Preference will vary based on that time of the month.[/quote]

Those studies deal more with facial features and neck thickness. A wide, square jaw and thick neck have some kind of evolutionary appeal as a hunter/gatherer and provider. Fortunately for me everyone tells me I look like a pitbull…
[/quote]

True…However Im thinking vernon davis probably has a thicker neck than brad pitt because of his build which is what we are discussing (setting aside skin pigmentation).

But I think its reasonable (even if not scientific) to extrapolate from these findings that because of an association with black men and virility women may be more attracted to built black men when they are ovulating.[/quote]

??? Are you being serious? Most non black women I know would never fuck a black guy, no matter how thick his neck [insert joke here]. And what the fuck does “association with black men and virility” even mean? Is this late 1700’s slavery propagnda coming to light? A woman will find attractive what she finds appealing, color, supposed virility or neck thickness be damned.[/quote]

WF, you are a very funny person. Funny and sad. I normally don’t enter into debates like this, however, I’m feeling pretty bold this morning (probably night for you). Now, I have to sit on the fence between Prof X and Marvel Girl. They both make sense and bring up interesting points. You, however, got my attention based upon the “Most non-black women…” comment. In my experience, having lived all across the world and encountered so many different ladies, I have to say that you and your “non-black women” you know are an extreme minority. I’ve befriended a lot of women who used to say that they would never go for this and that, make “standards” when it comes to men, but ultimately, the men they would finally sleep with or start a relationship with would be totally opposite or different from their stated opinions. Not to boast, but I’ve been “that guy” for a lot of “non-black” women and black women alike. To share some info about me, I’m a large, muscular, single, black man. My style is my own. I don’t dress the way you probably think most black men dress. However, I do not dress the way most “non-black” men dress, either. I go for what is comfortable and appropriate for the situation. Musically, I am into almost every type of music you can imagine. I talk like I actually paid attention in school. I read. A lot. I work out frequently not because I want to appear attractive, but because I want to be able to keep up with the children I hope to have one day. That and I want to be able to overpower, outmatch, outlast, and possibly kill whomever wishes to take away my life or the lives of those closest to me. I normally put people off when they first see me, as I can appear to be very intense and unapproachable, however, that feeling usually goes away as soon as I open my mouth. These things and so much more seem to attract ladies of all races to me. It also makes me less attractive to some. My point is this, what women want truly varies from woman to woman, however, to make race a big point of it is a mistake. Just as making it about size is a mistake. Just my two cents…

burek · March 18, 2010, 9:15am

Brad Pitt in Troy > Brad Pitt in Fight Club

porkpie · March 18, 2010, 9:23am

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Squiggles wrote:
What is with you men and always zeroing in on one thing? Women don’t think like that. If you ask if a girl/woman likes men with big muscles and their general opinion is no, then they will say no. However, women aren’t linear and single focus like men. It is a sliding scale, and that no is always mixed in with the overall yeses and nos until the balance tips to one side or the other.

You are not your muscles.
You are not your hair.
You are not your job.
You are not your attitude.
You are not your clothes.
You are not your salary.
You are not your opinions.
You are not your possessions.

You are ALL of those things, and women will look at ALL of them together and combine them and come out with their own little score, and you’ll either get lucky or you won’t.

If a woman says that she doesn’t like big muscles on a guy, then goes out with big a guy with big muscles, it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know what she wants…it means that she put your entire self through her mental algorithm and all of it combined came back positive.

Sheesh. You men are so simple minded sometimes :D[/quote]

I have to call bullshit.

If a woman is asked whether she likes guys with big muscles…AND SAYS NO…this is supposed to mean “yes, maybe, if he has eyes like my dad, a big toe that resembles our family cat Scruffles, likes my mom’s pumpkin pie, and has nice teeth along with 500 other variables that need to be added into a …what did you call it?..MENTAL ALGORITHM”???

Yet, somehow, this means we are not supposed to think this is because they don’t know what they want?

If someone asks me if I want pizza, I either want pizza or I don’t want pizza. There is no equation, algorithm, or Google Map search involved in my answer.

Why?

Because I know what I want, and the woman who just lied to me doesn’t.[/quote]

Agreed with you X!!
If a strange man asked a woman ‘do i look good?’ what is the woman most likely to say ?
I guess its a similar principal.

its_just_me · March 18, 2010, 11:32am

[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Squiggles wrote:
What is with you men and always zeroing in on one thing? Women don’t think like that. If you ask if a girl/woman likes men with big muscles and their general opinion is no, then they will say no. However, women aren’t linear and single focus like men. It is a sliding scale, and that no is always mixed in with the overall yeses and nos until the balance tips to one side or the other.

You are not your muscles.
You are not your hair.
You are not your job.
You are not your attitude.
You are not your clothes.
You are not your salary.
You are not your opinions.
You are not your possessions.

You are ALL of those things, and women will look at ALL of them together and combine them and come out with their own little score, and you’ll either get lucky or you won’t.

If a woman says that she doesn’t like big muscles on a guy, then goes out with big a guy with big muscles, it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know what she wants…it means that she put your entire self through her mental algorithm and all of it combined came back positive.

Sheesh. You men are so simple minded sometimes :D[/quote]

I have to call bullshit.

If a woman is asked whether she likes guys with big muscles…AND SAYS NO…this is supposed to mean “yes, maybe, if he has eyes like my dad, a big toe that resembles our family cat Scruffles, likes my mom’s pumpkin pie, and has nice teeth along with 500 other variables that need to be added into a …what did you call it?..MENTAL ALGORITHM”???

Yet, somehow, this means we are not supposed to think this is because they don’t know what they want?

If someone asks me if I want pizza, I either want pizza or I don’t want pizza. There is no equation, algorithm, or Google Map search involved in my answer.

Why?

Because I know what I want, and the woman who just lied to me doesn’t.[/quote]

How is asking a woman if she likes big muscles and not allowing any other variables any different than me asking if you like blondes and then if you say yes calling you a liar when you won’t date a 600 pound natural blonde?

Of course there are variables. Every human being on the planet uses more than ONE trait to pick a partner.

People are not pizza.
[/quote]

“People are not pizza” lol

A lot of the women I’ve known have always said what they prefer, and it can be quite specific/superficial; like dark hair/tall (what is it with British woman and “tall dark”? lol). And there are some that will specifically go out with big guys only (I think this is a “thick” Irish trait here). And how a guy carries himself does matter a lot; if he’s hunched over and can’t make eye contact etc, he’s seen as maybe “cute”, but not as attractive as a confident person.

In the end, I’ve heard it said many times by women, that you can’t help who you fall in love with. Woman can have a preference, but they will have to compromise (other stuff makes up for it); hardly anyone gets exactly what they want lol. And some don’t have a preference until they meet someone (e.g. like PX said, when they go with someone big, that becomes their preference).

So in other words, even if you separate the emotional stuff, many woman still have a physical preference (even if that’s not the most important thing in their mind).

Massif · March 18, 2010, 11:31am

Who knows what women want. They sure as hell don’t.

Like my grand-daddy used to say “Remember, boy. Bitches be crazy!”

sam_sneed1 · March 18, 2010, 12:20pm

[quote]Massif wrote:
Who knows what women want. [/quote]

Mel Gibson.

Professor_X · March 18, 2010, 12:41pm

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:
I think that was spot on professor X.

Here is a new wrinkle:

Studies have shown that women show a preference for more masculine features the closer they are to ovulating. They prefer softer features at a rate proportional to the distance from optimal fertility.

They want vernon to knock em up, and they want brad (or a guy with brad looks more likely) to hang around and help with the nurturing

CLIFFSNOTES:
Preference will vary based on that time of the month.[/quote]

Those studies deal more with facial features and neck thickness. A wide, square jaw and thick neck have some kind of evolutionary appeal as a hunter/gatherer and provider. Fortunately for me everyone tells me I look like a pitbull…
[/quote]

True…However Im thinking vernon davis probably has a thicker neck than brad pitt because of his build which is what we are discussing (setting aside skin pigmentation).

But I think its reasonable (even if not scientific) to extrapolate from these findings that because of an association with black men and virility women may be more attracted to built black men when they are ovulating.[/quote]

??? Are you being serious? Most non black women I know would never fuck a black guy, no matter how thick his neck [insert joke here]. And what the fuck does “association with black men and virility” even mean? Is this late 1700’s slavery propagnda coming to light? A woman will find attractive what she finds appealing, color, supposed virility or neck thickness be damned.[/quote]

Wow. That statement says more about your own inexperience than anything else.

Porn movies are FILLED with women who “NEVER” would have.

LOL!

Not only that, what world do you live in where you really think no black man alive could ever be attractive to a woman? You really think skin color alone directs attraction? Guess what, we don’t all look alike.

There are many interracial couples where either the girl or the guy claimed that they never dated outside of their race previously.

You seem very close minded…and I seriously doubt these women you keep mentioning are going to see a guy with physical traits they like but will run the other way simply because his skin isn’t lilly white.

polo77j · March 18, 2010, 1:04pm

Mel Gibson in the Man without a Face > Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys > any other man ever

lewhitehurst · March 18, 2010, 1:07pm