UFC 75 Champ vs. Champ

After seeing the first two fights, I thought this was going to be a great night. It took a turn for the worse.

Marcus Davis really impressed me. Both his recovery and winning of the fight and class in the post-fight interview.

Houston Alexander dominated.

CroCop never engaged after the first round. I thought the old CroCop was back after the first round. He wasn’t. He looked very slow. What is with the hand slapping habit he recently developed? He kept pushing Kongo’s left hand away with his right. What is with that?

Bisping had no answers for anything that Hammil threw at him. How he won is beyond me.

The term “War of Attrition” is very fitting for the main event.

[quote]Kalle wrote:
I thought it was a really good card other than Hamill getting ROBBED! Home field advantage clearly swung this decision, the two judges should be investigated… Seriously.

Hamill was much improved in the fight and seemed to be trying to make a point with his stand up, he seemed to not commit to the take downs which I think he should have started doing mid way through the 2nd round…

Cro Cop… Made Congo look real good

the championship fight was awesome IMO[/quote]

I agree. I’m a Crocop fan but he wasn’t on tonight. No Eye of the Tiger there… Jackson/Henderson was good to go. A lot of energy and heart there on both sides.

[quote]Grimnuruk wrote:
I agree. I’m a Crocop fan but he wasn’t on tonight. No Eye of the Tiger there… Jackson/Henderson was good to go. A lot of energy and heart there on both sides.[/quote]

I think Crocop’s career ended with the Gonzaga fight. His loss to Randleman was from a lucky punch and Fefor beat him, but that went to a decision. But the way Gonzaga dominated him start-to-finish, I think put doubts in his head. He looks so tentative now.

Speaking of beaten fighters… I’m thinking Rich Franklin is one of the walking dead too. If you watch the fight against Silva, there is a point about 2:32 into the fight where he gives Silva a pleading look, as if to say, “Please, stop kicking me.” After which Silva smashes Franklin’s nose into his skull. I’ll be stunned if he ever really regains his former stature.

Off the top of my head, it’s hard to think of someone who was really physcially man-handled and beaten up in a fight who came back as a champion. Maybe Quinten after his loss to Wanderlei… but that was in a tournament, the same night Q had beaten Chuck Liddel (who he was expected to lose against), so I doubt his confidence was ruined.

All of the fights tonight were at the very least entertaining.

My question is quite simple: Could there possibly be a less qualified announcer for MMA that Mike “fucking” Goldberg?

My 13 year-old daughter gets physically ill when she has to lsten to my favorite song of all time.

Bisping by screw job!

I was watching live with a bunch of friends, and obviously we were all rooting for Bisping. At the end all of us agreed the only way Bisping was gonna get the nod was by a major screw job. Couldn’t believe it when they gave it to him. He acted like a total dick after the fight aswell. Very disappointing.

I can’t believe how bad Cro Cop was. First round was quite good but he seems mentally weak and doesn’t like it when the going gets tough.

I’m not buying “Alexander is for real.” The guy looks like an amateur when he takes a boxing stance, he’s just got crazy power.

“The judging was so bad that Bisping was ahead in the Rampage/ Hendo fight also”

[quote]slimjim wrote:
I think Rampage will win, just because his striking is straight forward and his defense(standup) was tight in his last fight while Henderson can get a bit wild with his punching. Especially giving Henderson’s penchant for standing lately, I think Rampage’s style is perfectly fight to give Hendo his first knockout loss.

Of course this one is pretty even though because Hendo could land that bomb or show up with a gameplan to take Jackson down for some GNP.

I’m going to pick Kongo to upset Crocop. This probably won’t happen, but I don’t think its out of the realm of possibility

Bisping over Hammil

Alexander over sakara…sakara needs to take care of those bitchtits, I hope he had surgery since the last time I saw him in the ring, and I think Alexander will pound him out with some dirty boxing.

I’m probably wrong on all of these and I won’t be placing any bets because I won’t be able to watch it live…if I bet I’m guarunteed to be on the internet looking at the results before I watch the show.[/quote]

Slimjim is a genius

Good night. Hendo/Rampage was a superb technical battle, one wrong move at anytime and either could have ended each other. A most excellent display of the clinch game.

Hammil got fucking robbed.

I really wonder if Hamill getting fucked was out of the UFC’s fear of the place coming unglued. Something or someone with powerful influence stepped in there.

I am going to watch that fight again this afternoon but I was speechless. How the hell Bisping could get up there and make the comment, “Back to wrestling,” after he basically got manhandled is beyond me.

If you think Hamil got robbed, you can contact the UFC, I am going to drop a line myself.

Hey! How come no ones posted this on youtube or something? We don’t have Spike TV in India. Know any site where the matches are uploaded?

[quote]Azrael wrote:
Hey! How come no ones posted this on youtube or something? We don’t have Spike TV in India. Know any site where the matches are uploaded?[/quote]

try www.dailymotion.com

[quote]AdamC wrote:
Azrael wrote:
Hey! How come no ones posted this on youtube or something? We don’t have Spike TV in India. Know any site where the matches are uploaded?

try www.dailymotion.com
[/quote]
Nothing, I’ve been checking all day.

Hamil Bisbing… I’m not so sure he was robbed.
Everyone here said the only way Hamil could win is lay and pray.
So when I see hamil take down Bis it is expected, when bis gets up from each takedown it is not expected. So advantage Bis in the whole exchange.
Now IF Bis was known as a guy who is really hard to take down then it is advantage Hamil in the same exchange.

Hamil’s boxing was surprising, but so was Bisbing getting up.

That doesn’t make a 30-27 fight like one Judge, but it could swing 1 round and I feel Bis did win round 3. So I can see 29-28 scores.

[quote]Ruggerlife wrote:
I guess I’m one of the few that don’t think that Hamill won.

I gave Hamill the first and Bisbing the third. I thought the second was a coin toss. I’m nor sure how a judge gave Hamill the third, he really did nothing.

Big_Boss wrote:
This card sucked balls for the most part:

I like Bisping,but he didn’t convince me in a win. Hamill was ripped off.

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I gave a slight edge to Hamill. I didn’t see him taking all three rounds though.

Hamill blew it. He had opportunity to dominate and he kept letting Bisping back up. A couple more hard takedowns would have sealed the deal for him but he wanted to show off his newly acquired stand up skills.

[quote]ReklaW wrote:
Hamil Bisbing… I’m not so sure he was robbed.
Everyone here said the only way Hamil could win is lay and pray.
So when I see hamil take down Bis it is expected, when bis gets up from each takedown it is not expected. So advantage Bis in the whole exchange.
Now IF Bis was known as a guy who is really hard to take down then it is advantage Hamil in the same exchange.

Hamil’s boxing was surprising, but so was Bisbing getting up.[/quote]

That isn’t the way it works. Just because someone is expected to be able to take another guy down doesn’t mean that his takedowns don’t count, and just because bisping was able to escape (more like allowed to escape) doesn’t mean “advantage bisping in the whole exchange”. You don’t get points for escapes in mma.

That is like saying that if Fighter A is expected to knock out Fighter B, but in the actual fight Fighter A beats the crap out of fighter B in a stand up war, but can’t knock him out that fighter B wins because he was able to avoid the knockout that everyone expected.

Why isn’t dennis Kang signed by UFC. Maybe hes too expensive and not well known in North America. He would have killed either Bisping or Hamill.

I guess Dana White would rather have TUF fighters fight for less money then pay for top talent.

[quote]aiden wrote:

I guess Dana White would rather have TUF fighters fight for less money then pay for top talent. [/quote]

I think you are on the money there. I would guess that a good majority of the UFC fan base are TUF fans, and that’s about the limit of their knowledge of MMA. They gave the Bisping/Hamill fight the same amount of press as Rampage/Hendo. Look at how huge Forrest is. There is a huge inverse relationship when it comes to popularity and talent in the UFC. Granted there are some great fighters, but a lot of guys that bring in the big bucks are either way past their prime, or were never that great to begin with.

[quote]aiden wrote:
Why isn’t dennis Kang signed by UFC. Maybe hes too expensive and not well known in North America. He would have killed either Bisping or Hamill.

I guess Dana White would rather have TUF fighters fight for less money then pay for top talent. [/quote]

We are discussing the Bisping vs Hammil fight, aren’t we?

[quote]aiden wrote:
Why isn’t dennis Kang signed by UFC. Maybe hes too expensive and not well known in North America. He would have killed either Bisping or Hamill.

I guess Dana White would rather have TUF fighters fight for less money then pay for top talent. [/quote]

Dennis Kang still has a contract to Spirit MC in Korea and holds the title there. To fight in the UFC he would have to give that up, he doesn’t want to, so there you go. His fault.

Secondly, Dennis Kang is a middleweight, not a LHW. Go run back to Sherdog, grasshopper, and spread the idiocy there.