THIS should be interesting! FINALLY we get to see Fedor in a really compelling fight!
I wonder what the Vegas odds will come out as? Fedor -1,200? 
Sweet! Let the carnage begin. 
I couldn’t tell by the article, but is this scheduled to be a UFC bout? If so, then that’s kind of good and kind of disappointing.
I say that because I’ve read that Couture has stated he would not fight in the UFC again, even if it was to fight Fedor. And honestly, I’d absolutely love to see that fight.
On the other hand, it would be cool to see him in the Octagon, and cool to see him fight the likes of Sylvia, Arlovski (I know, his contract expired, still would be fun to see), Nog again, possibly Cro cop again, heck maybe even Lesnar down the road.
Hell to the no regarding it being in the UFC! Sylvia just recently left the UFC, and Fedor isn’t signed to the UFC (and I doubt he ever will be). It sounds like it’ll be shown on Mark Cuban’s HDNet channel and promoted by either Affliction and/or Adrenaline MMA, which is the new name for M-1, which is the organization that Fedor kind of “has a relationship with” but is not officially signed to. (He’s a free agent).
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Sweet! Let the carnage begin.
I couldn’t tell by the article, but is this scheduled to be a UFC bout? If so, then that’s kind of good and kind of disappointing.
I say that because I’ve read that Couture has stated he would not fight in the UFC again, even if it was to fight Fedor. And honestly, I’d absolutely love to see that fight.
On the other hand, it would be cool to see him in the Octagon, and cool to see him fight the likes of Sylvia, Arlovski (I know, his contract expired, still would be fun to see), Nog again, possibly Cro cop again, heck maybe even Lesnar down the road.[/quote]
this is the worste decision sylvia is ever going to make. he is no where near the calibre of fedor.
sylvia is going to make an ass of himself, just like when he got mangled by cotour.
the only reason sylvia was ever the champion is because he never faught anyone worth mentioning.
Holy. Shit. I think Nog choked all the common sense right out of Timmah.
Never fought anyone worth mentioning? Do you remember that guy called Andre Arlovski? The Pitbull was a badass that no one in the UFC was able to stop and Silvia beat him twice. I cannot stand Syliva and his boring fighting style, however, to suggest that he is not worthy of a Fedor fight is really insulting for any fan of MMA. A boring fighter does not mean a bad fighter.
More to the point, Fedor is indeed a talented fighter, but in the three years since he fought CroCop (who was dropped by less than spectacular fighters in the UFC), Syliva has fought Arlovski, Couture and Nog; Fedor has fought some 7 foot Korean boxer.
Give the most boring fighter in the UFC (former UFC) some props; he might be dull as hell to watch, but his game is tight and Fedor will have his work cut out for him in trying to level off the big boy from Iowa.
The good thing is that, as boring a fighter as Tim might be, Fedor is NEVER boring, and he’ll make damn sure it isn’t a boring fight. He’s explosive as all fucking get-out on his feet and he’s a scary beast on the ground.
This should be good. 
SWEET.
I don’t see it happening in anyway but what if Timmah [i]does[i] beat Fedor? That would be interesting. (again not going to happen.)
In MMA, anything can happen. One punch, one wrong position, one shot, etc. Sylvia is not exciting, but he is an excellent boxer with a great sprawl, long legs and good flexibility. If he beats Fedor, then maybe Dana White is right and Fedor is overrated. If Fedor beats Sylvia, then we have the matchup of all time coming this fall thanks to Cuban, HDNet, Couture and Fedor. Who would even need an undercard?
[quote]Kalle wrote:
SWEET.
I don’t see it happening in anyway but what if Timmah [i]does[i] beat Fedor? That would be interesting. (again not going to happen.)[/quote]
I agree with you in that I don’t think Sylvia has a chance, but damn, after last year, I’m not making any decisive calls ever again! Anything can happen, and it would be interesting as hell if Sylvia pulls it off!
[quote]knutes101 wrote:
In MMA, anything can happen. One punch, one wrong position, one shot, etc. Sylvia is not exciting, but he is an excellent boxer with a great sprawl, long legs and good flexibility. If he beats Fedor, then maybe Dana White is right and Fedor is overrated. If Fedor beats Sylvia, then we have the matchup of all time coming this fall thanks to Cuban, HDNet, Couture and Fedor. Who would even need an undercard?[/quote]
Personally, Fedor vs Randy doesn’t get my panties wet. I’ll probably catch hell for this, but I think some folks have forgotten a bit of history here. I respect the hell out of Colture, and I think he is a very cool guy, but the guy that gets tooled by Chuck Liddel twice in a row and comes out of retirement to beat Timmah and Gonzo, is not the guy I would pick to dethrone Fedor.
I’d much rather see Fedor vs Josh Barnett. But last I heard Josh doesn’t really give a crap about MMA anymore.
Timmah is better than I give him credit for. But shy of hell freezing over, this is not a good match-up for him. I’m guessing the fight will be in a ring which pretty much takes away Tim’s go-to strategy of pinning his opponent up against the cage and holding him there for the duration of the round. Fedor can beat him on his feet, and can sure as hell beat him on the ground. I can’t believe I’m actually trying to make comparisons here.
Great. I’m actually glad to hear it’s not UFC then, maybe after this fight we might actually get to see Fedor vs. Couture.
As far as the fight goes, it’s most likely going to involve Sylvia just trying to circle away and keep Fedor at a distance with his jabs, hopefully setting up a right. Probably not the most exciting fight.
I see it either going:
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Fedor is able to close the distance and beats up on Timmah the same way he did against Cro Cop
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Fedor closes the distance and takes Tim down (Tim does have very good takedown defense though) and then submits him
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The fight ends in a decision with Fedor winning for being more aggressive and possibly landing more shots/takedowns
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Tim getting incredibly lucky and catching Fedor with a perfectly placed straight right
I honestly think the first 3 are much more likely scenarios though.
I agree with what knutes said though, Tim might actually be a decent match-up for Fedor style wise. He’s big, awkward (can throw off timing), has a long reach, and can throw some decent punches. This could actually wind up being a pretty good fight.
- -and most plausible Timmah victory scenario-
the match comes to a halt in the first round as Fedor’s face bears a massive, bleeding cut from T’s jabs. The judges declare Sylvia the winner since there wasn’t much action.
Still, Fedor fights a former UFC champion! Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!
First off, anyone who thinks Tim is a walk over for Fedor is a delusional fool. He poses a lot of problems for any heavyweight. Fedor should win, and will be the rightful favorite, but Sylvia has a good chance here.
That said, this fight is awesome. Once again, we are moving back to where all the good heavyweight fights are outside the UFC. With Sylvia and Arlovski gone, Randy gone, Josh Barnett and Ben Rothwell floating out there, lot’s of good things can happen.
Well, I guess I am a delusional fool, cuz I know enough abotu MMA to know that Donut knows a heckuva lot more about MMA than I do. (just so we’re all clear, that is not sarcasm)
Donut, after seeing Fedor handle the Korean pituitary case I figured that Timmah’s length (which, from what I’ve seen, is all tim seems to have. not exactly a technical wizard) wouldnt be much of a problem for Fedor. what am I missing?
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
Well, I guess I am a delusional fool, cuz I know enough abotu MMA to know that Donut knows a heckuva lot more about MMA than I do. (just so we’re all clear, that is not sarcasm)
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[quote]KBCThird wrote:
Well, I guess I am a delusional fool, cuz I know enough abotu MMA to know that Donut knows a heckuva lot more about MMA than I do. (just so we’re all clear, that is not sarcasm)
Donut, after seeing Fedor handle the Korean pituitary case I figured that Timmah’s length (which, from what I’ve seen, is all tim seems to have. not exactly a technical wizard) wouldnt be much of a problem for Fedor. what am I missing?[/quote]
I think it is Sylvia’s takedown defense which is key. Semmy Schilt is taller and heavier and probably has better striking than Tim, but Schilt did not have great takedown defense.
Hong-Man is huge. Fedor was not able to get him on the ground. Instead Hong-man took Fedor down. I was surprised by that. I began to think that Fedor pulled guard but a breakdown of the fight in a magazine showed that Hong-Man used a trip in the clinch. Who said Korean Sumo was useless?
I think Sylvia is a good fighter. I think his striking is ugly though. I think Fedor will win because he can win on his back, in guard and has good enough stand-up to keep Sylvia honest.
I don’t know if this fight will satisfy critics though. Fedor wins and people will say Sylvia lost to Nog and Couture and he wasn’t really any good. If Fedor loses they will just say Fedor is overrated. It really just seems critics look at guys fight by fight and are ready to jump off their bandwagon once a guy loses.
It’s a shame Fedor’s debut to North American audiences is against one of the most boring lay-and-pray artists…ever. It’s a good thing Fedor is dangerous on the ground or we’d be subject to 3 rounds of what Timmah does best…dry-humping his opponents to victory.
Then again, if the Timmah that fought Nog shows up, and ups his game even more, we could have a pretty decent fight to watch…though Fedor wins in almost every scenario; his recovery and chin have been proven to be indomitable, and his skills standing and on the ground got him where he is today…he’s fought better strikers, and since Timmah doesn’t own a ground game…the result already seems pretty obvious. I just hope Fedor doesn’t forget how to fight top-tier opponents…losing to this goofy douchebag would be devastating.
Tim obviously has a massive reach advantage (as he does over everyone he fights), but let’s not give him TOO much credit in the striking department. Fedor is an aggressive motherfucker, and he was backing up the most impressive striker out there at the time, CroCop, during their entire fight. He’ll be much more aggressive in boxing Tim than Nog was. Fedor throws (fast) combinations and often then (also very fast) moves in for the clinch.
And he doesn’t take people down via “shooting in”, the way typical wrestlers do. He clinches up with you, then grabs your body and hurls you the fuck down sideways, in a judo/sambo throw. So regardless of how good Tim’s traditional “takedown defense” is, it’s a moot point in this case because that’s not the type of takedown that Fedor executes. However, the one thing that will make it tougher than usual for Fedor to take down Tim is, of course, Tim’s unusual size and weight. He is about 80 pounds lighter than HMC, though, so I’m pretty sure Fedor will be able to throw him down after his first couple of attempts.
I call Fedor winning via sub in the second (maybe first, but probably second). AND, I bet he’ll have a chance to demonstrate his fucking brutal GnP somewhere along the way as well. But I think he wins by sub.
[quote]Jin wrote:
It’s a shame Fedor’s debut to North American audiences is against one of the most boring lay-and-pray artists…ever.
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Actually Fedor’s NA debut was against Mark Coleman in Pride’s first US show.
As for the fight, I’m looking forward to it. Maybe it will lead to more big heavyweight fights outside of the UFC.
I think Fedor will win, but I never underestimate Big Tim. He may not be a great fighter, but he does one thing right and that is listen to his coach/camp.