[quote]Donut62 wrote:
aiden wrote:
Why isn’t dennis Kang signed by UFC. Maybe hes too expensive and not well known in North America. He would have killed either Bisping or Hamill.
I guess Dana White would rather have TUF fighters fight for less money then pay for top talent.
Dennis Kang still has a contract to Spirit MC in Korea and holds the title there. To fight in the UFC he would have to give that up, he doesn’t want to, so there you go. His fault.
Secondly, Dennis Kang is a middleweight, not a LHW. Go run back to Sherdog, grasshopper, and spread the idiocy there.[/quote]
lol…i saw you post on Sherdog,Donut. I’m getting the “royal” stfu “white-belt” treatment. That belt shit is beyond ridiculous. Oh,and my user name there is Dark_Knight.
That isn’t the way it works. Just because someone is expected to be able to take another guy down doesn’t mean that his takedowns don’t count, and just because bisping was able to escape (more like allowed to escape) doesn’t mean “advantage bisping in the whole exchange”. You don’t get points for escapes in mma.
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Oh I know that isn’t how it is “supposed” to work, but it sure helps you give the edge to the home town boy.
Plus the rules are so vague anyway, “ring dominance” can be taken several different ways.
Here’s something interesting that slipped through the cracks at the UFC 75 weigh in’s - the UFC has signed Mark Hunt to contract. Better get on the treadmill, Mark.
I was impressed with Houston Alexander. The guy is explosive and powerful. Of course, you have to wonder if he’d be able to keep that up for multiple rounds, as he’s won both his UFC fights in about 10 seconds (more like 3 min., but still).
Hamill was robbed. I had him clearly winning rounds 1&2 and round 3 was a toss-up. Bisping did NOTHING the entire fight. He lost the stand-up battle, couldn’t defend the takedown (he stuffed one in the final seconds) and never came close to a submission while on his back. Dana White needs to put these two in a rematch, ASAP. Give Hamill credit for taking the loss like a man, no crying. Bisping, however, came off jerky I thought with his post-fight comments.
Cro Cop looked timid from the start against Kongo. I think the Gonzaga fight really messed with his head and now he’s overly worried about the KO, so he’s fighting timid. Kongo didn’t do much, but did enough to win.
The Marcus Davis fight was really exciting. He’s improved a ton since his stint on TUF (speaking of which, the Hughes-Serra season looks like it’s going to be really good).
Rampage-Henderson was a great technical fight. I know there were boos, but for those that appreciate the intricate pieces of MMA, this was a great fight. I had it 48-47 Rampage. Henderson I thought won the first 2 rounds then lost the final 3, although the 3rd could’ve gone either way. I wasn’t surprised at the two 49-46 scores, as the 2nd round was close, too. I was impressed with Rampage’s ground game and surprised to see Henderson gas so early, especially since he looked to be in great shape heading into the fight.
One thing I really liked was no commercials during the main event. UFC and Spike need to do this on every live (or tape delayed) card they have.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Here’s something interesting that slipped through the cracks at the UFC 75 weigh in’s - the UFC has signed Mark Hunt to contract. Better get on the treadmill, Mark.[/quote]
You serious? If he gets down to 265lbs that would be crazy. Hopefully he will have some wrestling to go with the weight loss.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
Here’s something interesting that slipped through the cracks at the UFC 75 weigh in’s - the UFC has signed Mark Hunt to contract. Better get on the treadmill, Mark.
You serious? If he gets down to 265lbs that would be crazy. Hopefully he will have some wrestling to go with the weight loss.[/quote]
He looked good in his fight against Fador and managed to defend a few take-down attempts by the champ. Hopefully he has continued to work on this.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Here’s something interesting that slipped through the cracks at the UFC 75 weigh in’s - the UFC has signed Mark Hunt to contract. Better get on the treadmill, Mark.[/quote]
[quote]Higher Game wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:Was he warned after the earlier shot to the nuts? How exactly is the decision made to take a point away?
Kongo was given a warning and Crocop was given 5 minutes to recover. However, HE DID NOT TAKE THE FULL 5 MINUTES. I think Crocop is spiritually broken; he wasn’t even trying at that point. He just wanted to get it over with. In the end, just before they raised Kongo’s hand, Crocop was about to cry. Unlike women, male eyes tend to just get moist first instead of going straight to tears, and Mirko wasn’t even trying to hide it, not even wiping his eyes. He’s simply crushed.
Most fighters get a warning first. Tito grabbed the fence probably 3 times before he lost a point in his fight with Evans. Still, a 9-9 round is better than a 10-9 round, and that fight was a draw and a textbook example of how cheating can change the result of the fight.
Without the fence grabbing, Tito would have lost that fight. If Kongo lost a point for the groin smashing, it would have been a draw, just like the Ortiz/Evans fight. Given Crocop’s stature and legacy, I’m honestly surprised Kongo didn’t lose that point…[/quote]
Not taking 5 minutes has nothing to do with it. I’ve never seen a UFC fighter take the full 5 minutes. he catches his breath and their back at it.
women dont mist up? thats a crock
without the fence grabbing EVANS would have lost the fight, not tito
Haha… I’m don’t know any Brit who thought Bisping deserved to win. Most absurd decision I have witnessed for many years in the UFC. Hammil took him apart in rounds one and two, and Bisping finally got his standup working for half of the last round. Got to be a bit of politics involved there…
Respect to Hammil though, who was very humble in defeat, even though he clearly thought he had won.
I’m not %100 sure about the scoring system, but with Bisping and Hamill I would acknowledge that Hamill was the stronger athlete but as it went academic (going to the judges) there wasn’t enough decisive damage done by Hamill to warrant his strength carrying a great deal of weight.
Hamill’s a strong dude but I’d credit that more than any technique as to why his punches scored. He wasn’t able to finish Bisping on the ground despite some authorative takedowns and wasn’t able to knock him out or choke him when he had Bisping in that schoolyard headlock in the first round. And as previously mentioned Bisping was able to stand up real well after being taken down.
While Bisping didn’t dominate I do think he showed more ring-savvy than Hamill which personally I enjoy watching more than a big strong dude tharow a guy around 'cause he can.
[quote]Winger11 wrote:
I’m not %100 sure about the scoring system, but with Bisping and Hamill I would acknowledge that Hamill was the stronger athlete but as it went academic (going to the judges) there wasn’t enough decisive damage done by Hamill to warrant his strength carrying a great deal of weight.
Hamill’s a strong dude but I’d credit that more than any technique as to why his punches scored. He wasn’t able to finish Bisping on the ground despite some authorative takedowns and wasn’t able to knock him out or choke him when he had Bisping in that schoolyard headlock in the first round. And as previously mentioned Bisping was able to stand up real well after being taken down.
While Bisping didn’t dominate I do think he showed more ring-savvy than Hamill which personally I enjoy watching more than a big strong dude tharow a guy around 'cause he can.
Just my .02…[/quote]
But all of your points against hamill winning can be made against bisping as well. Bisping didnt do any decisive damage … few of his punches scored … he wasnt able to finish hamill, on the ground or otherwise … he couldnt knock him out or choke him out … bisping couldnt let hamill escape because he never took him down (I believe, the fight was 3 days ago by now, but he certainly didnt take him down very often, that much i’m certain of)
And I’m not sure why you say he showed more ring savvy? True hamill didnt do much in the way of cutting off Bispings angles, but it’s not as if bisping was darting in and out landing punches hamill was powerless to stop. Hamill had the middle of the cage the whole time. If anything, octagon control goes to hamill.
I thought that Bisping was lucky to get the win. But his smack talk at the end of it was a tad rich. Had he knocked him out? Then go for it. But to win in a touch and go split decision, I think being humble in victory would have been a better option.
I thought he wasn’t allowed (to fight) in the US, because he has a criminal record. Same for Alexander Emilianenko. But that could be BS.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Here’s something interesting that slipped through the cracks at the UFC 75 weigh in’s - the UFC has signed Mark Hunt to contract. Better get on the treadmill, Mark.[/quote]
[quote]Hoffa wrote:
I thought he wasn’t allowed (to fight) in the US, because he has a criminal record. Same for Alexander Emilianenko. But that could be BS.
Donut62 wrote:
Here’s something interesting that slipped through the cracks at the UFC 75 weigh in’s - the UFC has signed Mark Hunt to contract. Better get on the treadmill, Mark.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
Hoffa wrote:
I thought he wasn’t allowed (to fight) in the US, because he has a criminal record. Same for Alexander Emilianenko. But that could be BS.
Donut62 wrote:
Here’s something interesting that slipped through the cracks at the UFC 75 weigh in’s - the UFC has signed Mark Hunt to contract. Better get on the treadmill, Mark.
News to me. Any details?
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He had trouble getting a visa in time for Pride 34 because the last time he was in the country he had got into an altercation at a bar and beat the hell out of some guys. From what I know it was more of a time issue because he had to sort through the lingering legal fallout from his bar brawl, and not an issue of him being flat out denied.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
analog_kid wrote:
Hoffa wrote:
I thought he wasn’t allowed (to fight) in the US, because he has a criminal record. Same for Alexander Emilianenko. But that could be BS.
Donut62 wrote:
Here’s something interesting that slipped through the cracks at the UFC 75 weigh in’s - the UFC has signed Mark Hunt to contract. Better get on the treadmill, Mark.
News to me. Any details?
He had trouble getting a visa in time for Pride 34 because the last time he was in the country he had got into an altercation at a bar and beat the hell out of some guys. From what I know it was more of a time issue because he had to sort through the lingering legal fallout from his bar brawl, and not an issue of him being flat out denied.[/quote]
Mark or Alexander? Not that I can’t see either one beating the sense out of about 4 guys at once.
I was talking about Hunt-O. Aleksander has no hope of ever getting a visa to the USA. Five years for armed robbery and the mark of the criminal underworld of Russia scribbled all over his skin pretty much ends that.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
I was talking about Hunt-O. Aleksander has no hope of ever getting a visa to the USA. Five years for armed robbery and the mark of the criminal underworld of Russia scribbled all over his skin pretty much ends that.[/quote]
I think the UFC could find a way through those loopholes, one of the Fertita’s was on the NSAC at one point…money speaks louder than crimal records do in the US
[quote]slimjim wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
I was talking about Hunt-O. Aleksander has no hope of ever getting a visa to the USA. Five years for armed robbery and the mark of the criminal underworld of Russia scribbled all over his skin pretty much ends that.
I think the UFC could find a way through those loopholes, one of the Fertita’s was on the NSAC at one point…money speaks louder than crimal records do in the US[/quote]
Very possible. In the big scheme of things though, this is a federal issue and the UFC and Fertita’s are stains on the bottom of the federal government shoes. I really doubt they have the clout to change things in DC.