I agree with you X about the point that people will misuse information even if it’s true in some cases, clearly I’m not saying everyone with a little belly hang is using insulin, but I know some people will take it that way.
[quote]overstand wrote:
How is insulin used? Just curious[/quote]
Keeping it simple, insulin effects the way the body takes in and stores nutrients specifically carbohydrates, if supplemented properly slin is going to cause more carbs to be used in building muscle rather than being stored as fat. It is an extremely dangerous drug if not used properly, it’s very scary, but it’s effects on muscle building are enormous.
[quote]OatsNMilk wrote:
Actually, all of them have relatively big waists, Kai’s one just got slightly out of control for this olympia. And the picture you took was just a bad one, everyone basically flexes their abs when they face the audience, and relaxes them when they are doing back poses. So naturally, he would let his gut hang out in a back double bi pose.
If you look at the vid of dexter jackson at the prejudging, he also has a gut hanging out when he does his back poses, albiet not as big as Kai’s.[/quote]
That’s how they catch their breath…and snapping odd pics when they are relaxed is how douches on the internet show their douchiness.[/quote]
Damn!..Did CUTLER hijack your pc? DOUCHINESS??? That word “LOOSES”…LOL
[quote]OatsNMilk wrote:
Actually, all of them have relatively big waists, Kai’s one just got slightly out of control for this olympia. And the picture you took was just a bad one, everyone basically flexes their abs when they face the audience, and relaxes them when they are doing back poses. So naturally, he would let his gut hang out in a back double bi pose.
If you look at the vid of dexter jackson at the prejudging, he also has a gut hanging out when he does his back poses, albiet not as big as Kai’s.[/quote]
That’s how they catch their breath…and snapping odd pics when they are relaxed is how douches on the internet show their douchiness.[/quote]
Damn!..Did CUTLER hijack your pc? DOUCHINESS??? That word “LOOSES”…LOL[/quote]
Hey, hey…I figured I overused “retard” so I need a new catch phrase.
By the way, “douchiness” has been copyrighted by X-Enterprises.
[quote]OatsNMilk wrote:
Actually, all of them have relatively big waists, Kai’s one just got slightly out of control for this olympia. And the picture you took was just a bad one, everyone basically flexes their abs when they face the audience, and relaxes them when they are doing back poses. So naturally, he would let his gut hang out in a back double bi pose.
If you look at the vid of dexter jackson at the prejudging, he also has a gut hanging out when he does his back poses, albiet not as big as Kai’s.[/quote]
That’s how they catch their breath…and snapping odd pics when they are relaxed is how douches on the internet show their douchiness.[/quote]
Damn!..Did CUTLER hijack your pc? DOUCHINESS??? That word “LOOSES”…LOL[/quote]
Hey, hey…I figured I overused “retard” so I need a new catch phrase.
By the way, “douchiness” has been copyrighted by X-Enterprises.[/quote]
Any use of the term “douchiness” without the written consent of X-Enterprises is strictly prohibited, and violators will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Penalties include being turned into meat (be it in the form of slabs or ground up), direct payment to X-enterprises in the form of hamburgers, and/or the relinquishment of said user’s first born.
[quote]OatsNMilk wrote:
Actually, all of them have relatively big waists, Kai’s one just got slightly out of control for this olympia. And the picture you took was just a bad one, everyone basically flexes their abs when they face the audience, and relaxes them when they are doing back poses. So naturally, he would let his gut hang out in a back double bi pose.
If you look at the vid of dexter jackson at the prejudging, he also has a gut hanging out when he does his back poses, albiet not as big as Kai’s.[/quote]
That’s how they catch their breath…and snapping odd pics when they are relaxed is how douches on the internet show their douchiness.[/quote]
Damn!..Did CUTLER hijack your pc? DOUCHINESS??? That word “LOOSES”…LOL[/quote]
Hey, hey…I figured I overused “retard” so I need a new catch phrase.
By the way, “douchiness” has been copyrighted by X-Enterprises.[/quote]
Ok…let me say this, so as not to be booted from the thread, or arrested by BONEZ…LOL…I hate Jay Cutler…LOL. I can heckle you anytime…LOL
[quote]OatsNMilk wrote:
Actually, all of them have relatively big waists, Kai’s one just got slightly out of control for this olympia. And the picture you took was just a bad one, everyone basically flexes their abs when they face the audience, and relaxes them when they are doing back poses. So naturally, he would let his gut hang out in a back double bi pose.
If you look at the vid of dexter jackson at the prejudging, he also has a gut hanging out when he does his back poses, albiet not as big as Kai’s.[/quote]
That’s how they catch their breath…and snapping odd pics when they are relaxed is how douches on the internet show their douchiness.[/quote]
Damn!..Did CUTLER hijack your pc? DOUCHINESS??? That word “LOOSES”…LOL[/quote]
Hey, hey…I figured I overused “retard” so I need a new catch phrase.
By the way, “douchiness” has been copyrighted by X-Enterprises.[/quote]
Any use of the term “douchiness” without the written consent of X-Enterprises is strictly prohibited, and violators will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Penalties include being turned into meat (be it in the form of slabs or ground up), direct payment to X-enterprises in the form of hamburgers, and/or the relinquishment of said user’s first born.
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DAMN! DOUCHINESS DOUCHINESS!..I got 15 year old twins…GRIND AWAY MAN! I RELINQUISH!
The truth? No one knows for sure because before that, the average person was blaming this on “roid gut” before anyone was even using gh the way it is used now.
That is why you can’t assume things like that. Simply being that big is the greatest factor considering what it takes daily to pull that off from the weight used to the amounts of food eaten.[/quote]
[quote]gregron wrote:
the people mentioning race in here are fucking stupid. 19 of the last 30 Mr Olympia contests have been won by Non Caucasian BBers.[/quote]
This is true. You don’t have to be Mr. Olympia to fit the criteria previously mentioned, There are plenty of white fitness models who probably do very well in the sponsor department despite having won next to nothing. So you can stop trying to explain Jay’s win by mentioning his skin color. Jay has a better structure. Deal with it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
For instance, Meet Kevin Nee. Guess what? Chances are great his stomach isn’t less than flat because of insulin use even though he is nowhere near “fat”…yet I see newbs running around calling out bigger guys for that very thing for no reason.
There are bodybuilders who are simply shaped that way or they lean further back with their posture forcing their abs out.[/quote]
Whether insulin was used or not is irrelevant. No one knows whos using insulin, even though they all are. Anyway.
Visceral fat is a very likely cause of the abdominal distention. Not the only cause but things get compounded and magnified at that level.
There is a trend amongst the guys who dont get very far off from their contest weight. Adding less fat automatically means less visceral fat is accumulated. Visceral fat is harder to lose than subcutaneous fat. I dont think Im telling you anything you arent aware of. Im just saying this because there is a reason bodybuilders are eating clean year round and keeping abs all year round. And its not because they like doing it. And this does have a lot to do with have AAS available to push past plateaus while still eating clean.
Between organ growth from IGF-1 injections, overeating in the offseason (with insulin), and massive amounts of muscle to support you have guys with waists bigger than 32 inches.
I still dont understand why people care. Bodybuilding is about proportion and not about raw tape measure sizes.
[quote]OatsNMilk wrote:
Actually, all of them have relatively big waists, Kai’s one just got slightly out of control for this olympia. And the picture you took was just a bad one, everyone basically flexes their abs when they face the audience, and relaxes them when they are doing back poses. So naturally, he would let his gut hang out in a back double bi pose.
If you look at the vid of dexter jackson at the prejudging, he also has a gut hanging out when he does his back poses, albiet not as big as Kai’s.[/quote]
That’s how they catch their breath…and snapping odd pics when they are relaxed is how douches on the internet show their douchiness.[/quote]
Damn!..Did CUTLER hijack your pc? DOUCHINESS??? That word “LOOSES”…LOL[/quote]
Hey, hey…I figured I overused “retard” so I need a new catch phrase.
By the way, “douchiness” has been copyrighted by X-Enterprises.[/quote]
Ok…let me say this, so as not to be booted from the thread, or arrested by BONEZ…LOL…I hate Jay Cutler…LOL. I can heckle you anytime…LOL
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So how would someone like Jay manage the size of his waist from one year to the next ie. he managed to get it smaller last year and have it blow up a bit more this year?
I’m (possibly stupidly) assuming that he would be doing similar exercises from one year to the next with a poundage that requires a bigger waist (read stronger core) for the stability, but last year it seemed less noticeable.
I can’t believe that he would be stupid enough to over do his direct oblique development if it was going to make him appear more blocky. Do they modify or cut out compound lifts etc before a competition to reduce the stress on the abdominal musculature or have other tricks?
