Supplements and Bud

STOP SMOKING THAT SHIT, YOU FUCKING STONER!!!
You’re proof that it kills brain cells.

Needing weed to get your appetite up ? That is the lamest thing I’ve heard in a while.

C

It’s the CRACK.

So if I take juiced creatine and smoke a dub right after, do I still have to do cardio?

[quote]carter12 wrote:
So if I take juiced creatine and smoke a dub right after, do I still have to do cardio?[/quote]

Yes, if you take a dose of juiced creatine, smoke a fat dub then immediatly jerk off after you’re fucken heart will EXPLODE!!! Good luck, but if it doesn’t then you’ll get a really good workout.

Peace

I’m still dumbfounded by “creatine monohydrate is a thing of the past.”

http://www.T-Nation.com/findArticle.do?article=05-156-diet

What happens if I snort juiced creatine it…maybe smoke it ? Will it be stronger than coke ?

Bro, who gives a shit anyway? If you’re taking mono then good for you. If you’ve never taken creatine before then TRY the ethyl-ester kind. You got a problem with that?

Do you want me to list the fucken side effects of creatine monohydrate? Why don’t you do a little research like going on yahoo.com and searching keywords creatine monohydrate edema. The first thing on there says this from the National Institute of Neurological disorders and stroke:

CREATINE

There is evidence of both oxidative stress and mitochondrial dysfunction in Parkinsons Disease, which can be potentially be counteracted by creatine’s protective effects. This drug has the ability to restore and maintain cellular energy reserves and is generally well tolerated, with the following occasional side effects: weight gain, edema, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. In rare cases, muscle cramps, liver and kidney problems have been reported.

Note the side effects, are you still dumbfounded? The new creatine ethyl-ester doesn’t have ANY of these god dam side effects, understand? If you’ve been taking mono for years and never got a side effect then GOOD FOR YOU, that’s awesome. I don’t have time to go over all this shit again i’m tired, I’ve been at it all day. Someone else can take over now…

BTW it’s 12:23am GN. Go and do you’re own research on the subject if you’re interested, i’ve done more then enough.

[quote]GhostTribe wrote:
Bro, who gives a shit anyway? If you’re taking mono then good for you. If you’ve never taken creatine before then TRY the ethyl-ester kind. You got a problem with that?

Do you want me to list the fucken side effects of creatine monohydrate? Why don’t you do a little research like going on yahoo.com and searching keywords creatine monohydrate edema. The first thing on there says this from the National Institute of Neurological disorders and stroke:

CREATINE

There is evidence of both oxidative stress and mitochondrial dysfunction in Parkinsons Disease, which can be potentially be counteracted by creatine’s protective effects. This drug has the ability to restore and maintain cellular energy reserves and is generally well tolerated, with the following occasional side effects: weight gain, edema, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. In rare cases, muscle cramps, liver and kidney problems have been reported.

Note the side effects, are you still dumbfounded? The new creatine ethyl-ester doesn’t have ANY of these god dam side effects, understand? If you’ve been taking mono for years and never got a side effect then GOOD FOR YOU, that’s awesome. I don’t have time to go over all this shit again i’m tired, I’ve been at it all day. Someone else can take over now…[/quote]

Bro I think you need to reeducate your self all that CEE etc is is friggin creatine mono with a ethyl ester attached to supposdely make it abosrb at a faster rate which is a moot point as there has NEVER been a problem with creatine being absorbed and once your saturated yous saturated.

So the EE added may MAY make the saturation process a bit faster but once saturated you just piss the excess out faster and any side effect of Mono will be the same with the EE version its still creatine.

Phill

[quote]Phill wrote:

So the EE added may MAY make the saturation process a bit faster but once saturated you just piss the excess out faster and any side effect of Mono will be the same with the EE version its still creatine.

Phill

[/quote]

Sorry bro, I think you need to do more research on CEE yourself. Edema, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. In rare cases, muscle cramps, liver and kidney problems have been reported. If you think you can get that from CEE you’re crazy. Sorry man that’s just dumb, I believe you’re also one of the smarter fellas on here, please don’t ruin it. Like I said before good night to you all.

[quote]GhostTribe wrote:

Sorry bro, I think you need to do more research on CEE yourself. Edema, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. In rare cases, muscle cramps, liver and kidney problems have been reported. If you think you can get that from CEE you’re crazy. Sorry man that’s just dumb, I believe you’re also one of the smarter fellas on here, please don’t ruin it. Like I said before good night to you all.[/quote]

Yes GOOD!!! creatine causes adema!!! That is a side effect many of us and really ALL of us should be taking it for thats one of ther benefits it aids and extra hydration of the muscle tissue which in turn aids in recovery and growth by helping to move trash (waste) OUT fuel building blocek in.

The stonmach upset etc largely seen from poor quailty creatine mono that is poorly absorbed and makes it to the gastrointestinal tract use a quality brand creapure not chinese variety.

Mucles cramps. you need to stay hydrated yes it casues edma it pulls water to your muscel tissue drink a bit more water.

Show a study of kidny and liver damage from creatine done on HEALTHY subjects one that was not done on ppl with a pre existing kidney/liver condition. Sure cretinine levels will likely be rasied a bit but nothig a healty individual cannot easily handle. Safely.

and yes all those above can be seem with CEE it is creatine plan and simple its a fancy desiger marketing ploy like trying to building a better mouse trap.You can oput a fancy paint job on it and package it different its still a mouse trap. If anything the ethyl ester attahced may tax the liver further.

have a wonderful evening
Phill

Sorry guys I was going to respond to this sooner but my juiced up creatine herb put me into a post workout haze.

It should be noted that no peer-reviewed studies have demonstrated that CEE results in better absorbtion or utilization than monohydrate. The only potential benefit to CEE is for weight-controlled atletes. It has been shown to have much the same [but no additional] benefits to monohydrate but does not cause the couple lb jump in waterweight. It could be a good alternative for an in-season wrestler.

As far as anecdotal evidence goes, my college teamates and I switched to CEE to try and see if there were any additional benefits over monohydrate. No one experienced any. It also tastes horrendous, which should not dissuade anyone if it was really more effective. But on balance, there’s nothing to suggest that it is.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Rykker wrote:
GhostTribe wrote:

BTW I hate posting :slight_smile:

BTW thanks for making me post. :frowning:

It’s all your fault, Prof.

My bad.[/quote]

don’t you mean my bud?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Worrying about increasing your heart rate can also increase your heart rate.[/quote]

Exactly what i was thinking. Not sonning you, but i know weed, and it can makes your heart go bubbumpberrrbumpbump and all crazy types of rhythms.

Ghost tribe you need to smoke some of that GHOST WEEEEED

GHOST WEEEEEED!

[quote]GhostTribe wrote:
<<< Infact I believe you’re smarter than me since you’ve been posting and reading shit on this site for a lot longer. >>>[/quote][/quote]

I think he’s smarter than you because of WHY you think he’s smarter than you.

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
As far as anecdotal evidence goes, my college teamates and I switched to CEE to try and see if there were any additional benefits over monohydrate. No one experienced any. It also tastes horrendous, which should not dissuade anyone if it was really more effective. But on balance, there’s nothing to suggest that it is.[/quote]

Hey bro, one thing we might have confused here is the fact that I wasn’t talking about CEE in general, I was specifically talking about CE2 made by MRI. They come in caplet form and have a delivery system within’ them. How can taking 2 caplets be horrendous if we’re talking about the same thing.

The ONLY thing I know about is the CEE made by MRI, anything else is beyond me.
If we’re all not talking specifically about MRI’s CEE then i’m lost because i’ve never even heard of a different CEE, nor would I ever consider taking anything else.

MRI’s CEE has NO side effects, as I’ve been on it for over 3 months. Nor has MRI ever got reports of sides with their product. Phil is probably right about what other CEE products can do which I have no clue about. Thanks for reading.

Awww damnit!!!

You guys made him post again. Quit making him post when he doesn’t want to.

DB

[quote]GhostTribe wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
As far as anecdotal evidence goes, my college teamates and I switched to CEE to try and see if there were any additional benefits over monohydrate. No one experienced any. It also tastes horrendous, which should not dissuade anyone if it was really more effective. But on balance, there’s nothing to suggest that it is.

Hey bro, one thing we might have confused here is the fact that I wasn’t talking about CEE in general, I was specifically talking about CE2 made by MRI. They come in caplet form and have a delivery system within’ them. How can taking 2 caplets be horrendous if we’re talking about the same thing.

The ONLY thing I know about is the CEE made by MRI, anything else is beyond me.
If we’re all not talking specifically about MRI’s CEE then i’m lost because i’ve never even heard of a different CEE, nor would I ever consider taking anything else.

MRI’s CEE has NO side effects, as I’ve been on it for over 3 months. Nor has MRI ever got reports of sides with their product. Phil is probably right about what other CEE products can do which I have no clue about. Thanks for reading.[/quote]

I haven’t seen any peer-reviewed, controlled studies [not sponsored by the manufacturer of the product] that document that ANY of the ‘designer’ creatines are more effective than monohydrate. If you have such information, I’d be interested in seeing it posted here. But it’d news to me. As far as side effects go, it’s a very small minority that get them on monohydrate. But there’s no evidence that other forms of creatine do more to aid strength and mass gains.

For those who experience such side effects and weight-controlled athletes who can’t afford the little jump in water-weight, some other forms of creatine are worth looking into. For the general population, there’s no additional benefit above monohydrate.

And I can’t figure out for the life of me why you are skeptical or wouldn’t take CEE from a different manufacturer. And other manufacturers certainly exist. All CEE is exactly the same. Just like all CreaPure creatine monohydrate is exactly the same. [some inferior brands that don’t use CreaPure make creatine with impurities such as dicyandiamide, dihydrotriazine, and sodium.] This isn’t a complicated, novel supplement. You really can’t go wrong.

[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Awww damnit!!!

You guys made him post again. Quit making him post when he doesn’t want to.

DB[/quote]

Ahhhhh smokin’ the juiced Creatine…

Fo Shizzle Dollar Bizzle.