I know a couple of people who have been hospitalized after taking creatine. One guy was loading up on creatine and his kidneys failed. Probably overdosed!?!?!?
Other guy collapsed in front of a club while waiting inline to get in. The cause of that was creatine, doctors say.
I myself tried to use creatine and followed the proper dosage but I had pimples and rashes all over my body after three months of use. I also noticed that my erections weren’t as strong while on creatine. I went to see my doctor and was told to stop taking creatine because it’s not good for the body. After I stopped taking creatine my body returned to perfect health.
I believe Creatine has long term health effects which you will notice later in life if not now.
[quote]Anim8 wrote:
I know a couple of people who have been hospitalized after taking creatine. One guy was loading up on creatine and his kidneys failed. Probably overdosed!?!?!?
Other guy collapsed in front of a club while waiting inline to get in. The cause of that was creatine, doctors say.
I myself tried to use creatine and followed the proper dosage but I had pimples and rashes all over my body after three months of use. I also noticed that my erections weren’t as strong while on creatine. I went to see my doctor and was told to stop taking creatine because it’s not good for the body. After I stopped taking creatine my body returned to perfect health.
I believe Creatine has long term health effects which you will notice later in life if not now. [/quote]
I am taking creatine right now. Have never had any negative effects from it whatsoever. As far as kidneys, they used to think it might negatively affect the kidneys because the test for kidneys going bad is increased creatine in the blood. If you are taking creatine, of course you are going to have increased creatine in the blood.
You also have to be careful of these unsubstantiated links. My mother took Tylenol, and now had diabetes. There was no connection to the two events. The first person could have had bad kidneys in the first place. The second, just because a doctor says it does not mean it is true. It could just mean the doctor didn’t find the real cause, and decided, “Hey, he takes this, so it must have caused it.” My wife is getting a little annoyed with one doctor telling her one thing, and another completely discounting what the first said.
Now you might have had some reaction to the creatine, or you could have had a coincidental event that coincided with taking the creatine, and you could have recovered about the same time as when you stopped taking it.
My understanding is that researchers keep finding it safe and beneficial.
You could try testing yourself out though. Try taking some again, and see if your body responds the same way again. And even then it could be a placebo effect.
Remember if you eat meat, you are already eating creatine.
Well, if you are allergic to it or otherwise have a reaction to it, that most of society does not, then perhaps it could be unhealthy for YOU to consume it.
Spare us the whacko “it’s gonna kill ya” malarky and scare mongering please.
I mean, there are people out there with peanut or other dangerous food allergies, and generally nobody tells those of us that don’t that these foods are “dangerous” for the general public.
Also, if you bought some crazy product with additional substances – there would be various factors to consider as well as a possible reaction to creatine.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Also, if you bought some crazy product with additional substances – there would be various factors to consider as well as a possible reaction to creatine.[/quote]
Having a “creatine allergy” is like having an allergy to meat. I agree with the concept that many people are buying products with a load of other crap in them with creatine ADDED. That needs to be determined as well.
I haven’t taken creatine daily for more that a month, back in my bodybuilding days. I was one month on… one month off. No ill effects… although the excessive acummulation of water bothered me sometimes. Sometimes I couldn’t get clothes to fit.
Bottom line… whatever the supplement your taking, if it makes you feel ill…stop taking it.
If you feel ill taking, probably it can make more harm than good.
If you are scared of it, just don’t take it. Enough said.
Seriously… I’m through with trying to convince people that creatine DOESN’T cause your heart to explode, that steroids DON’T turn men into wolverines, and that additional protein DOESN’T cause renal failure. If these individuals cannot do objective, intelligent research, I say we just let them believe what they want. It is human nature to embrace negative attributes, trying to draw detrimental correlations between things, whether or not they are logical. If you are worried that aspartame causes cancer or that tuna is loaded with unsafe amounts of mercury, just leave it alone!
~Terumo
[quote]Terumo wrote:
It is human nature to embrace negative attributes, trying to draw detrimental correlations between things, whether or not they are logical. If you are worried that aspartame causes cancer or that tuna is loaded with unsafe amounts of mercury, just leave it alone!
~Terumo[/quote]
The problem is when they start spreading their own biases as truth. You have people on this forum truly worried about whether their milk will kill them now. I was pm’d on the issue so I am sure there are even more with this concern simply because one guy posts a web site with apparently biased info that doesn’t even stand up to simple logic.
Dude, if you can’t take creatine, then you can’t eat chicken/fish/steak.
Creatine has been used by athletes for about 30 years, with no ill-effects. There is also TONS of published research and not a single one shows negative effects.
I can assure you that what happened is coincidence, caused by something else at the same time. Although there is also the possibility that you had some crappy product from China with lots of impurities. There is also the chance that you were taking one of those stupid creatine product with extra crap (e.g. some people increase their acne problems if they take multivitamins with B6).
Do a search on PubMed. Creatine is GOOD for you, unless you’re allergic, in which case any meat product would cause a problem as well. Just drink a bit more water.
People are forgetting that creatine and water reduction for making weight, depleting etc… can and has caused organs to fail.
I believe that everything has some positive stuff and some negative stuff associated with it. Unfortunately, we’ve all been educated by supplement companies so all we know is the positive stuff. There has got to be negative stuff as well, we just do not know about it.
PGA,
I suspect that it would probably be fairer to point the finger at the diuretics in such an instance… I mean, severe depletion of liquids is dangerous without the need to consider additional factors.
Isn’t this partially how ephedrine was given a bad rap?
Lets just ban creatine already.
[quote]samsmarts wrote:
Lets just ban creatine already.[/quote]
Let’s just stop making stupid comments already.
[quote]vroom wrote:
People are forgetting that creatine and water reduction for making weight, depleting etc… can and has caused organs to fail.
PGA,
I suspect that it would probably be fairer to point the finger at the diuretics in such an instance… I mean, severe depletion of liquids is dangerous without the need to consider additional factors.
Isn’t this partially how ephedrine was given a bad rap?[/quote]
This is retarded. Creatine has been on the market, what, nearly 30 years and you STILL have people who will bypass every study that has proven it to be effective and GOOD for you yet listen to lockroom gossip.
The three wrestlers who reportedly died from creatine…they retracted that statement later because they were dehydrated from trying to lose weight quickly for a competition. Sweating out 20lbs of fluid in a day can do that to you. Creatine didn’t cause any problems they had. Trying to play drastic games with their bodies did.
Why do people try this hard to look for things wrong with anything that has the smallest relation to bodybuilding?
If you get acne while drinking Kool-aid, did the Kool-aid CAUSE the acne?
If you get into a car accident while chewing bubblegum, did Bubbalicious CAUSE the car wreck?
I have a headache…it must be this keyboard.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
vroom wrote:
People are forgetting that creatine and water reduction for making weight, depleting etc… can and has caused organs to fail.
PGA,
I suspect that it would probably be fairer to point the finger at the diuretics in such an instance… I mean, severe depletion of liquids is dangerous without the need to consider additional factors.
Isn’t this partially how ephedrine was given a bad rap?
This is retarded. Creatine has been on the market, what, nearly 30 years and you STILL have people who will bypass every study that has proven it to be effective and GOOD for you yet listen to lockroom gossip.
The three wrestlers who reportedly died from creatine…they retracted that statement later because they were dehydrated from trying to lose weight quickly for a competition. Sweating out 20lbs of fluid in a day can do that to you. Creatine didn’t cause any problems they had. Trying to play drastic games with their bodies did.
Why do people try this hard to look for things wrong with anything that has the smallest relation to bodybuilding?
If you get acne while drinking Kool-aid, did the Kool-aid CAUSE the acne?
If you get into a car accident while chewing bubblegum, did Bubbalicious CAUSE the car wreck?
I have a headache…it must be this keyboard.[/quote]
Yeah, I had a huge post written up earlier for this thread, but I erased it all. I can’t believe this is even being discussed.
[quote]vroom wrote:
People are forgetting that creatine and water reduction for making weight, depleting etc… can and has caused organs to fail.
PGA,
I suspect that it would probably be fairer to point the finger at the diuretics in such an instance… I mean, severe depletion of liquids is dangerous without the need to consider additional factors.
Isn’t this partially how ephedrine was given a bad rap?[/quote]
Absolutely diuretics played a role and probably was/is a combination of the diuretics, creatine and water reduction. Creatine does act like a diuretic to a certain extent. Just look at how much we wee wee when we take it. I run to the bathroom like a pregnant woman and thats without taking in much, if any, more water than normal.
I give up… bodybuilding is the devil… ban weights, exercise and diets.
[quote]PGA200X wrote:
People are forgetting that creatine and water reduction for making weight, depleting etc… can and has caused organs to fail.[/quote]
Breathing and water reduction for making weight can also cause organs to fail.
I read that those wrestlers that had problems actually breathed air EVERY DAY!