Supplements and Bud

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Just what is ‘juiced’ creatine? Stop spouting bullshit on this thread. [/quote]

Do some research first before you call my post bullshit. Hey genius his increased heart rate is from the weed NOT the creatine dumbass. He took both creatine and weed. You start talking about heart problems, dehydration, ect. LOL you’re the bullshitter. Go help someone with something you actually have a clue about.

Juiced creatine is just a form of creatine mono that was made a few years ago that you only need to add water too. Hence the juiced part. You don’t need to mix it with juice yourself, which goes through the body faster. I don’t give a shit what kind of creatine he took because they all do the same thing except this one isn’t mixed with juice, it’s mixed with water.

If you don’t think you can FEEL creatine you’re a dumbass. You think back in 1993 when Ed Byrd introduced pure creatine mono nobody could feel their effects? LOL You think a multi-million dollar industry was formed from something nobody could actually feel?

I don’t have time to bullshit, I’m trying to help the OP out so STFU. I’ve said all I can say about this subject, gotta take my creatine and eat some breakfast. Peace bro.

[quote]GhostTribe wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Just what is ‘juiced’ creatine? Stop spouting bullshit on this thread.

Do some research first before you call my post bullshit. Hey genius his increased heart rate is from the weed NOT the creatine dumbass. He took both creatine and weed. You start talking about heart problems, dehydration, ect. LOL you’re the bullshitter. Go help someone with something you actually have a clue about.

Juiced creatine is just a form of creatine mono that was made a few years ago that you only need to add water too. Hence the juiced part. You don’t need to mix it with juice yourself, which goes through the body faster. I don’t give a shit what kind of creatine he took because they all do the same thing except this one isn’t mixed with juice, it’s mixed with water.

If you don’t think you can FEEL creatine you’re a dumbass. You think back in 1993 when Ed Byrd introduced pure creatine mono nobody could feel their effects? LOL You think a multi-million dollar industry was formed from something nobody could actually feel?

I don’t have time to bullshit, I’m trying to help the OP out so STFU. I’ve said all I can say about this subject, gotta take my creatine and eat some breakfast. Peace bro.[/quote]

wow.

[quote]StevenF wrote:
GhostTribe wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Just what is ‘juiced’ creatine? Stop spouting bullshit on this thread.

Do some research first before you call my post bullshit. Hey genius his increased heart rate is from the weed NOT the creatine dumbass. He took both creatine and weed. You start talking about heart problems, dehydration, ect. LOL you’re the bullshitter. Go help someone with something you actually have a clue about.

Juiced creatine is just a form of creatine mono that was made a few years ago that you only need to add water too. Hence the juiced part. You don’t need to mix it with juice yourself, which goes through the body faster. I don’t give a shit what kind of creatine he took because they all do the same thing except this one isn’t mixed with juice, it’s mixed with water.

If you don’t think you can FEEL creatine you’re a dumbass. You think back in 1993 when Ed Byrd introduced pure creatine mono nobody could feel their effects? LOL You think a multi-million dollar industry was formed from something nobody could actually feel?

I don’t have time to bullshit, I’m trying to help the OP out so STFU. I’ve said all I can say about this subject, gotta take my creatine and eat some breakfast. Peace bro.

wow. [/quote]

You said it…someone else can set the guy straight if they feel like it. I don’t have time.

I need to get me some of that juiced creatine

[quote]KO421 wrote:
I need to get me some of that juiced creatine[/quote]

You don’t want that stuff because creatine mono in general is old news to begin with. Try taking the ethyl-ester kind which is way more advanced and has no side effects.

jsbrook says he doesn’t have the time…yeah that’s why you have almost 6 fucken thousand posts bro.

/sarcasm on
I’m sure you’re not a bullshitter.

peace brother

[quote]GhostTribe wrote:
KO421 wrote:
I need to get me some of that juiced creatine

You don’t want that stuff because creatine mono in general is old news to begin with. Try taking the ethyl-ester kind which is way more advanced and has no side effects.

jsbrook says he doesn’t have the time…yeah that’s why you have almost 6 fucken thousand posts bro.

/sarcasm on
I’m sure you’re not a bullshitter.

peace brother[/quote]

I should stop taking creatine because it is “old news”? Not because it has been proven to work, and not because it is now fairly cheap even in its purest form…but because it isn’t “new” anymore?

Wow, I wonder what else I can stop doing because it is “old news”. Squats have been around forever. Let’s get rid of those too. Hell, the entire idea of going to a gym to get built is pretty “old news” too. I suggest we all start training outside…when it rains. There, that’s new.

[quote]zamoney55 wrote:
For some reason when I smoke buds my heart rate goes through the roof and I start to shake. Needless to say im going to stop smoking for a while, but does anyone know what supp could be causing this?[/quote]

It just sounds like you’ve been blazing some laced shit. Now if you’re having problems having sex when you’re high, it’s time to have a talk with your hookup.

[quote]zamoney55 wrote:
I dont smoke to eat, im 210 lbs I eat like a mutha fucka. I smoke to get high as shit.[/quote] As evidenced by this thread. [quote]I used to smoke all the time and nothing happened. Maybe it is the omega, thanks for your imput guys. [/quote] If anything, double the Omega 3’s – it sounds like your brain could use it.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I should stop taking creatine because it is “old news”? Not because it has been proven to work, and not because it is now fairly cheap even in its purest form…but because it isn’t “new” anymore?

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Please professor X, are you serious? Yeah creatine mono is “OLD” news. If it works for you that’s great, I hope you get tremendous gains with it. I was mearly suggesting something “new”, is there a problem?

The “new” creatine blows the old shit out of the water for your information. It absorbs into your blood stream in minutes not hours like the old shit. You get tremendous cell-volumizing compaired to the old, all with virtually no adema. (The bad water OUTSIDE the muscle cell responsible for making you look puffy.

Your creatine is water soluble which is dependent on creatine transporters. When you take the “new” creatine it has the ability to pass directly through lipid membrane barriers BYPASSING the transporters. Also you don’t need to cycle off of the new shit as most people do when taking mono. The new shit has also satisfied the FDA’s safty review. And bro, you also don’t have to LOAD up on the shit when you start. The “old” creatine can also make you bloated!

The only thing is that it costs more, that’s all. Need I say more about how much better the “new” creatine is than the “old”? Don’t be so sarcastic in response to my post, it makes you sound stupid. I like to think of you as one of the smarter fella’s on this site. Thanks for reading.

[quote]GhostTribe wrote:
Professor X wrote:

I should stop taking creatine because it is “old news”? Not because it has been proven to work, and not because it is now fairly cheap even in its purest form…but because it isn’t “new” anymore?

Please professor X, are you serious? Yeah creatine mono is “OLD” news. If it works for you that’s great, I hope you get tremendous gains with it. I was mearly suggesting something “new”, is there a problem?

The “new” creatine blows the old shit out of the water for your information. It absorbs into your blood stream in minutes not hours like the old shit. You get tremendous cell-volumizing compaired to the old, all with virtually no adema. (The bad water OUTSIDE the muscle cell responsible for making you look puffy.

Your creatine is water soluble which is dependent on creatine transporters. When you take the “new” creatine it has the ability to pass directly through lipid membrane barriers BYPASSING the transporters. Also you don’t need to cycle off of the new shit as most people do when taking mono. The new shit has also satisfied the FDA’s safty review. And bro, you also don’t have to LOAD up on the shit when you start. The “old” creatine can also make you bloated!

The only thing is that it costs more, that’s all. Need I say more about how much better the “new” creatine is than the “old”? Don’t be so sarcastic in response to my post, it makes you sound stupid. I like to think of you as one of the smarter fella’s on this site. Thanks for reading.[/quote]

Creatine never NEEDED to be ‘cycled’. Some have that preference but this is not a hormone. You also don’t need to “load” creatine as that is also a preference. Your post implies that regular creatine causes “adema”. I will avoid the sarcasm surrounding that ‘word’ and simply ask where you have gotten this information from.

[quote]chillain wrote:
It just sounds like you’ve been blazing some laced shit. Now if you’re having problems having sex when you’re high, it’s time to have a talk with your hookup.[/quote]
Agreed. For most people weed has no affect on heart rate, and if it never did before it probably didn’t start just now. If you got some pot laced with opium or coke, that can really fuck you up though. Have you been smoking the same batch since this started happening?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Creatine never NEEDED to be ‘cycled’. Some have that preference but this is not a hormone. You also don’t need to “load” creatine as that is also a preference. Your post implies that regular creatine causes “adema”. I will avoid the sarcasm surrounding that ‘word’ and simply ask where you have gotten this information from.[/quote]

I never said creatine NEEDED to be cycled, people have that preference all the way back since '93 it was said to do so by the person who introduced it in the first place. Yes you do need to “load” creatine because it says on the bottle to do so, and I go by what the bottle says. Your stuff, (whatever the brand may be) might not say that, so good for you :slight_smile:

Water based creatine has difficulty penetrating fat-soluble membranes by themselves. That’s why they’re forced to use creatine transporters. The trouble is, compared to the amount of creatine that needs transporting, there are only a limited number of transporters. So you’re pure monohydrate must wait in line in the space OUTSIDE of your muscle cell, called the extra-cellular space. In that space the creatine is pulling water to them which accumulates and pools there, causing WATER RETENTION. That’s why SOME people look puffy or undefined.

The new shit draws no water to the space outside of your muscle cell. Oh yeah on top of that the creatine mono that’s NOT obsorbed starts to decompose and gets de-activated and irreversibly converted to CREATININE which you don’t want. I can go on but I think i’ve made my point here bro. Thanks for reading and have a good day.

P.S. I’m not trying to change your routine bro so don’t worry about it. You’re a very smart person (gathered from reading different posts of yours I believe) and I know you’ve had tremendous success, so good for you I’m happy for you. :slight_smile: BTW I hate posting :slight_smile: Peace brother

[quote]GhostTribe wrote:
I never said creatine NEEDED to be cycled, people have that preference all the way back since '93 it was said to do so by the person who introduced it in the first place. Yes you do need to “load” creatine because it says on the bottle to do so, and I go by what the bottle says. Your stuff, (whatever the brand may be) might not say that, so good for you :)[/quote]

You sound like you get everything you know from supplement ads and bottles in GNC. Just a hint: “that doesn’t make you very informed”

[quote]

Water based creatine has difficulty penetrating fat-soluble membranes by themselves. That’s why they’re forced to use creatine transporters. The trouble is, compared to the amount of creatine that needs transporting, there are only a limited number of transporters. So you’re pure monohydrate must wait in line in the space OUTSIDE of your muscle cell, called the extra-cellular space. In that space the creatine is pulling water to them which accumulates and pools there, causing WATER RETENTION. That’s why SOME people look puffy or undefined.[/quote]

I would say “prove this” as far as your belief in water retention, but that would lead to even more hilarious dribble and, frankly, my computer can’t take much more.

[quote]

The new shit draws no water to the space outside of your muscle cell. Oh yeah on top of that the creatine mono that’s NOT obsorbed starts to decompose and gets de-activated and irreversibly converted to CREATININE which you don’t want. I can go on but I think i’ve made my point here bro. Thanks for reading and have a good day.[/quote]

Yep. You got me. You are one bad mammajamma. I bow to your superiority and stuff.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Yep. You got me. You are one bad mammajamma. I bow to your superiority and stuff.
[/quote]

Bro, I never said I was superior in any way, shape, or form. Infact I believe you’re smarter than me since you’ve been posting and reading shit on this site for a lot longer.

I don’t want to be a bad mammajamma and superior to you in anyway. You were very sarcastic in response to a post I made to another person about buying JUICED creatine mono, which probably isn’t even around anymore. I should have just told the guy that instead.

Sorry bro I didn’t mean to call a product you’re using “old” I’m trying to help people out with subjects I happen to know about, that’s all. Have a great day. BTW thanks for making me post. :frowning:

[quote]GhostTribe wrote:

BTW I hate posting :slight_smile:

BTW thanks for making me post. :([/quote]

It’s all your fault, Prof.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I would say “prove this” as far as your belief in water retention, but that would lead to even more hilarious dribble and, frankly, my computer can’t take much more.
[/quote]

This post here pisses me off, hilarious dribble? Are you serious? You have a one track mind here man, it’s time to expand. These are facts, I don’t give a shit what you say. There’s been millions of dollars invested in researching creatine.

You want proof? The simplist way I can describe it is this. Creatine is a SALT. Wherever it goes, WATER FOLLOWS, but where?! Bodily water stays in place until it’s called into action by some bodily event. Say for instance you eat a whole box of saltine crackers. Within’ a couple hours you may begin to puff up, especially in your stomach and face. Why? Saltines are SALTY, and water FOLLOWS SALT. And if you ate an entire box everyday, you’d probably look puffy every minute every day. This is ADEMA. The salt from the Saltines probably doesn’t make it to the INSIDE portion of your muscle cells. So the water collects OUTSIDE, creating a puffy look.

Please stop making me post on my day off and lets end this dumbass thread already. I was just trying to help a fellow t-man out, gimme a break. If you don’t get any adema then GOOD FOR JEW. I’m happy for you, no really…

THC destroys cell walls making it harder to recover from workouts and REALLY easy to get sick in the winter.

And lets be honest…the munchie effect isn’t really that strong.

GhostTribe, I believe the word you are looking for is “edema” - effusion of serous fluid into the interstices of cells in tissue spaces or into body cavities, not to be confused with Adema, a terrible band.

Secondly, I used to work at a GNC, and MRI, Ed Byrd’s new company, came and did a seminar about how to sell CE2, MRI’s creatine ethyl-ester product. They basically said, WITH THE EXACT SAME TERMINOLOGY, what you just spouted to Prof X. You also mentioned Ed Byrd explicitly earlier in the thread. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say you’ve also worked at GNC, or (even worse) gotten the spiel from an employee?
It’s just a sales pitch-

[quote]Rykker wrote:
GhostTribe wrote:

BTW I hate posting :slight_smile:

BTW thanks for making me post. :frowning:

It’s all your fault, Prof.

[/quote]

My bad.

[quote]T Affliction G wrote:
GhostTribe, I believe the word you are looking for is “edema” - effusion of serous fluid into the interstices of cells in tissue spaces or into body cavities, not to be confused with Adema, a terrible band.

Secondly, I used to work at a GNC, and MRI, Ed Byrd’s new company, came and did a seminar about how to sell CE2, MRI’s creatine ethyl-ester product. They basically said, WITH THE EXACT SAME TERMINOLOGY, what you just spouted to Prof X. [/quote]

Yeah after doing some research on the internet I just realized the word I was looking for is Edema, not Adema, my bad.

First of all fuck GNC, it’s a good store where I buy my supps from but I sure the hell didn’t get my info from a person there. The seminar is EXACTLY right, and i’m not trying to sell the damn stuff on here. If you’re already taking mono and getting awesome gains from it then that’s great! For some people that are thinking of using creatine for the first time opt to use the “new” kind. I also don’t really care anymore since i’m totally burned out on the subject.

It’s funny too because all I really said to a different poster was not to look into buying juiced creatine mono and should look into the “new” creatine ethyl-ester hydrocloride. God forbid I mention something new on here where I have to go into detail on the subject which I NEVER wanted to do in the first place.

Thanks for the correction, even though I caught it a few minutes before you posted and wasn’t about to change every word to Edema. I hope this thread will die soon so I don’t have to explain myself anymore? But like I said thanks for the correction.

I am totally neutral here until someone starts being sarcastic and obnoxious. Hell I didn’t even clown the OP for his posts, can’t we all just get along…heh
Thanks for reading.