[quote]Glad8r wrote:
Difference between quick and fast.
Btw there were no explanation why I feel slow after heavy compound exercises such as squat. Compared for example to power clean or expolive box squat (where you relax at the bottom) with weight 60% max oir less.[/quote]
Well are you squatting with 60% or 90% when you feel slow and heavy? I would says it’s cause your CNS has just been taxed hard if 90% is the answer. You did a more intense effort and therefore are more drained than if you did speed work. That is why you have varying intensity in your program, to accommodate speed and recuperation.
[quote]Glad8r wrote:
Difference between quick and fast.
Btw there were no explanation why I feel slow after heavy compound exercises such as squat. Compared for example to power clean or expolive box squat (where you relax at the bottom) with weight 60% max oir less.[/quote]
Also this “yahoo” answer is not detailing the difference between quick and fast so much as high top speed vs. high acceleration. Both are elements of speed. quickness is a measure of speed. fast is a measure of speed.
luke lowrey is always talking about all of his “clients”, yet he has never given any name, his testimonial section contains vague names, he has “scam” written all over him…
there is some truth in what luke has to say, but i use box squats as opposed to regular squats… the box squats are superior in that they incorporate “tension release”, are less taxing on the body, and eliminate the stretch reflex thus building some crazy explosiveness, i used to do full squats but when i switched over to box squats my vertical really went up
[quote]Mr. Zero wrote:
there is some truth in what luke has to say, but i use box squats as opposed to regular squats… the box squats are superior in that they incorporate “tension release”, are less taxing on the body, and eliminate the stretch reflex thus building some crazy explosiveness, i used to do full squats but when i switched over to box squats my vertical really went up[/quote]
That’s probably because box squats are less taxing on the CNS and you basically deloaded.
squats worked for me(not only squats, simply as a part of my program). Not only that, but they have helped me maintain my vertical in the time since I stopped playing ball competitively, yet have since gained 40 lbs.
Given an adequate level of basic strength, different types of jumps rely on different physical qualities, and training of more advanced athletes should reflect this.
If the jumps in a sport are bilateral (two footed) and sufficient time is allowed for force development, squatting, squatting with bands or chains, Olympic lifts, and weighted/resisted jump variants would be primary training methods.
On the other hand, if a sport requires unilateral (single footed) jumps with short ground contact times, progressive plyometric training would be more specific to these demands.
Most sports require both.
The proportion of bilateral vs. unilateral jumps and the training experience you posses will dictate how much of each type of training is used.
[quote]Wayland wrote:
The guy is not making alot of sense
Given an adequate level of basic strength, different types of jumps rely on different physical qualities, and training of more advanced athletes should reflect this.
If the jumps in a sport are bilateral (two footed) and sufficient time is allowed for force development, squatting, squatting with bands or chains, Olympic lifts, and weighted/resisted jump variants would be primary training methods.
On the other hand, if a sport requires unilateral (single footed) jumps with short ground contact times, progressive plyometric training would be more specific to these demands.
Most sports require both.
The proportion of bilateral vs. unilateral jumps and the training experience you posses will dictate how much of each type of training is used.
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To expand on this, those two training methods end up becoming complimentary once they emerge in the sport performance.
An athlete doing both varieties of training will have better performance vertically and speed wise on the field. The leg power developed in the squat will be used to some extent in each step and jump just as the proprioceptive speed of each plyo drill will also be incorporated into that same step or jump.
Your feet dont have 2 modes. they are a certain amount strong and a certain amount fast. God this shit is hard to explain in short order.
Fuck this hat wearing jackass. luke scamery. where the fuck did i put my penis enlargement pills?
[quote]Shammy12 wrote:
Kelly Baggett says he has a 42 inches vertical and he has proven it with a picture.
Luke Lowery hasn’t told anyone his vertical and his excuse is he broken his ankle (or something).
Who do you trust?[/quote]
Well said, Kelly Baggett has proof of his ability and has the knowledge to go with it. Luke claims to have had a 42 inch vert or somewhere in the area and then got injured and no longer competes or some lame bullcrap excuse. I personally don’t believe him, but you never know show us some pics and videos and we’ll see. check out the main verticalproject page and somewhere on there he talks about what his vertical used to be and some other nonsense. GET A DAMN HAIRCUT TOO!!!
I was curious about the vertical project, so I ordered it and it said to get the access codes to it I needed to sign and fax back Full Disclosure Agreement. Anyway, inside of it there was a statement saying by signing the FDA I agree to be charged 59.95 per month for Luke’s personal coaching. I contacted them and said I am not sending it back and to just send me my access codes.
They sent back saying that I can cancel the coaching at anytime but I need to fax the signed FDA back to get my access codes. I contacted my credit card company and disputed the charge. All iI wanted was to see what the program was about and this company is trying to get more money off of my card. Good thing I can read.
[quote]Eric Cressey wrote:
This guy added 11 inches to his vertical jump from mid-October to the start of February, and squatting didn’t seem to negatively impact him:
He also just pitched in a big league spring training game at age 19.
But, what would I know? I don’t even have an Australian accent…
[quote]Eric Cressey wrote:
This guy added 11 inches to his vertical jump from mid-October to the start of February, and squatting didn’t seem to negatively impact him:
He also just pitched in a big league spring training game at age 19.
But, what would I know? I don’t even have an Australian accent…
[quote]Bloobird wrote:
Eric Cressey wrote:
This guy added 11 inches to his vertical jump from mid-October to the start of February, and squatting didn’t seem to negatively impact him:
He also just pitched in a big league spring training game at age 19.
But, what would I know? I don’t even have an Australian accent…
Why does he squat so low before he jumps? Also, if you don’t mind me asking, what are some of his lifts?
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That’s just his style.
The only “lift” that matters for him is the 5oz one he does every time he picks up a baseball to pop 93mph.
