What do you think about this guys?
Anyone who says: “and I’m going to PROVE it to you” does not inspire much trust.
He needs to get a hair cut, take off the damn hat, put on some decent clothes and then i might have listened to more than 20sec of this rubbish!
Well haven’t anyone experienced slowiness after heavy exercises such as squat.
Personally i even need to get on the bike or treadmill to return to normal movement after haevy work. It’s very noticable when playing explosive sports. At first you like can’t move quickly and later you gain full coordination. However it does not apply when not practising heavy weightlifting (2-6 rep MAX).
The Vertical Project has some interesting ideas, but I personally don’t like the program. 6 heavy days of training is just too much for me. I was sick every two weeks when trying the program. It did get my vertical up a little, but at the expense of feeling well. Maybe a genetic freak could do it. Some of the stuff makes sense though.
As I understand it:
If you have an explosive strength deficit, getting stronger at squats won’t increase your vertical leap.
If you have a strength deficit, it will help your vertical leaping potential, although it may not directly increase your vertical leap.
But who on earth trains their vert jump with only squats? As if several plyometric drills and jump training are not included.
He talks like people are only hanging out lifting weights alone and expecting their vert to go up.
Note the one thing he doesn’t mention is the vertical capacity of Olympic lifters and how he claims that strength and conditioning as a sport culture came only from “powerlifting” and “bodybuilding.” As if OL hasn’t been included in the training of athletes since athletes began conditioning with weights.
Most of his historical countenance is straight wrong.
and who trusts a kiwi with a backwards hat?
-chris
Also, this fool is trying to sell those jumping shoes as well. WTFH is that?
Squats seemed to work alright for frank yang’s 40inch vert:
He’s also 2 varieties of insane, but the bottom line is that wieghtlifting w/ heavy squats must do something for your vert.
-chris
LOL! those seizure hoops are awesome!
you should see his “move every muscle in your body all at once” warm up.
-chris
Squats alone wont get your vert up. However saying that squats are always detrimental is a bit stupid. Like Eric Cressey says it depends is the right answer 99% percent of time.
Oh and here is a good explanation about squats for beginners, intermediates and advanced athletes training for vertical jumping. SquatsandSpeed - by Kelly Bagget. This guy knows his stuff on vertical development.
Kelly Baggett says he has a 42 inches vertical and he has proven it with a picture.
Luke Lowery hasn’t told anyone his vertical and his excuse is he broken his ankle (or something).
Who do you trust?
This mofo needs to read Alwyn’s article.
He looked very unprofessional and didn’t look like he could do jack shit as far as strength is concerned.
I didn’t feel like turning down my music to listen to him.
Hopefully I will survive.
He wants you to see it with your eyes!
its a typical x,y graph…
tit.
Yes, according to Baggett there is. He talks about cars often, going from a 100cc to a 250cc makes cars go faster, but from going from 250cc to 500cc doesnt help much, or something like that. The basic premise is that when an athlete is weak, getting them bigger and in turn, stronger will help with speed and jumping. However, after that point, its better to get the “engine” more efficient because the added weight and strength can be a hindrance. Don’t get me wrong though, he never says a person can get too strong. It’s just that sometimes training goals need to shift.
[quote]Avocado wrote:
Also, this fool is trying to sell those jumping shoes as well. WTFH is that?
Squats seemed to work alright for frank yang’s 40inch vert:
He’s also 2 varieties of insane, but the bottom line is that wieghtlifting w/ heavy squats must do something for your vert.
-chris
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Actually Luke spoke in his masterclasses about powerlifters ability to leap as high as 40 inches. However he noticed, that he would not be able to apply it in athletic performance. As I understood he meant by it that powerlifter will be sloppy, uncoordinated and well maybe fast, but not quick. Most athletes don’t do just two legged jumps.
[quote]Glad8r wrote:
Avocado wrote:
Also, this fool is trying to sell those jumping shoes as well. WTFH is that?
Squats seemed to work alright for frank yang’s 40inch vert:
He’s also 2 varieties of insane, but the bottom line is that wieghtlifting w/ heavy squats must do something for your vert.
-chris
Actually Luke spoke in his masterclasses about powerlifters ability to leap as high as 40 inches. However he noticed, that he would not be able to apply it in athletic performance. As I understood he meant by it that powerlifter will be sloppy, uncoordinated and well maybe fast, but not quick. Most athletes don’t do just two legged jumps. [/quote]
Fast but not Quick? you do know that in english those two words are synonyms right?
And im sure if you want an athlete to develop their plyometric power in single legs then you can just organize single legged plyo training and agility drilling.
This luke guy is talking about how squats are bad for your vertical. I have shown evidence that squats are not bad for your vertical in the form of a case study. Your Kiwi man didn’t say anything about single leg ertical, just vert. Yangs got his vert on and he does some big 102% 1RM squats.
Kelly bagget would likely be a better authority on this.
-chris
Difference between quick and fast.
Btw there were no explanation why I feel slow after heavy compound exercises such as squat. Compared for example to power clean or expolive box squat (where you relax at the bottom) with weight 60% max oir less.
[quote]Glad8r wrote:
Difference between quick and fast.
Btw there were no explanation why I feel slow after heavy compound exercises such as squat. Compared for example to power clean or expolive box squat (where you relax at the bottom) with weight 60% max oir less.[/quote]
Because heavy squats tax your motoneurons more.Exhausted neurons fire less effectively, therefor you feel and are slower.
From my own experience I can say that regular back squats did improve my vertical jump and horizontal leap, both.