[quote]Fathermithras wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Fathermithras wrote:
Quick question on HCG. I’ve never used it before. last week of my show, I was basically doing only winstrol, tren, and anavar to avoid water retention. The day after the show, i started a 10 week cycle. Weekly running test e500mg, deca 300mg, Tren a 300mg, dbol first 4 weeks 50mg a day. Using test prop and NPP to get the test and deca in right off while the long term esters build up. But, this will bring my total cycle time to about 22 weeks.
Now, I’ve not been using the HCG, and see you recommend 250iu 2x a week to keep suppression from happening. Obviously it’s too late for that. i’ve done PCT with just nolva and just clomid (I tend to do better with nolva). I hear so much mixed stuff about HCG for PCT. Some saying about 1000iu a week, in 2 doses for ten days after last shot, then traditional PCT, to as high as 2500iu a day for weeks. It’s bonkers town reading the variances. Some even say it’s a complete waste of time to use it. What’s your opinion and advice for PCT, when HCG is available for PCT but hasn’t been used during the cycle?
I know using deca and tren makes the cycle VERY suppressive and both were used during my show prep as well. Also, would you recommend tapering down after the ten weeks and then doing PCT, or not? As always, appreciate the feedback. Switching to the Test, Eq, Tren combo you suggested for my next bulking session after some time off.[/quote]
Since you did deca and tren in the same cycle and didn’t use HCG I would recommend an aggressive pct once you’ve finished the cycle. Before the pct taper down off the cycle slowly.
In order to recover I would do this…
3000iu of HCG every 3rd day for a total of 10shots (30,000iu)
Clomid (2 weeks on 100mg and 2 weeks on 50mg)
Nolvadex 10-20mg/day START NOW keep it until 1 week after you finish the clomid, while you are taking clomid increase it to 40/40/40/20/20
Finish 2 bottles of AlphaMale(start it with the pct and keep going til the bottle are done) take 6 a day, not 4
By the time you are finished this, you’ll be good!
As for your next cycle, add an oral like dbol, tbol or Anadrol to the combo I suggested and you’ll have awesome gains.[/quote]
Thanks! I intend to do dbol during the next cycle as well. As I mentioned before, going to train in phases for a LONG cycle, with blasting and cruising for the first time. I figure 9 months on, taper off, 2-3 months off, blood work, repeat. I got a lot of very positive reviews on my structure and shape from my last show and want to see how far i can take it. Quick question though. My first phase next year is a Powerliftin one, with bodybuilding being used as the accessory work. I was considering just running higher test (I have only gone as high as 500mg test e, was considering going up to 750mg) would a 3-4 week run of Halo be helpful? I figure the strength gains will indirectly lead to some growth, and will carry over after the 8 weeks of powerlifting into the next, lighter, bodybuilding phase. During the first month of bodybuilding i was going to cruise on 250mg of test and then go back to 500mg test e, 300 tren e, and 400 eq with 4 weeks of dbol. I really feel I do well on this level of doses and don’t want to up it until i feel its no longer working. my nutrition changes have been so positive i feel they’ll help me get another 10-12 pounds at this level. Anyway, how does that sound? I was also going to run adex (works better for me then nolva from past experience) and hcg 500iu a week, 2 shots like i’ve seen you recommend. I’m sure I’m fucking up somewhere, or you have some tips.[/quote]
You’re not fucking up, it looks great to me. The only thing I would add is HGH if you can afford it (60-90min preworkout) and possibly a low dose of insulin pre workout (5-10iu) with Plazma intraworkout.
You’ve done your research and you know your shit, keep it up you’ll do fine.