Shadow Pro Q&A 2.0

[quote]Wintermaul wrote:
Thanks for taking your time answering in this thread Shadow. I was wondering, im still in the low range for a show and such and only tried steroids. As im growing is there a peptide worth taking? Im not capable of buying GH as the price is to high and the chance that it is really GH is small. But i can get GHRP, insulin, IGF-LR etc. Is there anything you would think is worth the money? Ive heard many things, some say they grow on this stuff and others claim that they could throw them and spend it on more steroids instead because the only thing thats worth buying besides roids are GH…
Your thoughts on this subject please.[/quote]

I agree, I think a lot of peptides are a waste of money. If it was up to me I would buy regular juice or GH instead. Insulin is an option as well but it will depend on your individual case.

[quote]julianahardcore wrote:
Hi Shadow

can you help me with my cutting?i would like 10%bf
weight 180pounds
bf 30%

drugs: clenbuterol,t3,t4,ketotifen,eca,yohimbine,nolvadex,arimidex,winstrol,oxandrolone

my diet

meal 1
yogurt diet 300gr
fish oil 2gr

meal 2
100gr chicken grilled
olive oil 5gr
salad

meal 3 same meal 2

meal 4 pre workout
5gr bcaa+ 2 scoops mag

meal 5 post workout
5gr bcaa + 2 scoops mag

meal 6
100gr meat grilled
5gr olive oil
salada
2gr fish oil

weightlifting 4x week
cardio 30mins 3x week

thanks

[/quote]

Hi,

Can you please post pictures so I can see who I’m dealing with.

I’m not sure if you are a male or a female based on your username? If you are a male you should by no means be using any kind of drugs at 30% bodyfat. You need to adjust your diet, training and cardio before even thinking about it.

What kind of weight training are you doing? How does the program look?

Yogurt should come out of meal one and be replaced with another solid protein (egg whites could be an option)

I don’t see any carbs here, you probably should eliminate them completely. This is why I want to see pictures! Carbs are not the devil… You just need to time them correctly.

I can help you further once I see the photos.

[quote]gilmarpersonal wrote:
hello Shadow
you said me to use hCG during and after the cycle, but as is the recovery of LH?

would I like to know if i can storage hcg after mixed freeze how long time?

thanks[/quote]

I have never put it in the freezer before but I know some people do and say it doesn’t lose it’s potency. How much extra could you possibly have? Maybe you can buy smaller viles if possible.

If you were focusing strictly on overall strength, olympic lift progression, while maintaining size, what type of compounds would you advise stacking? While this is very individual, I was thinking something simple along the lines of 1:1 Test to Deca, as well as using orals such as dbol to break through plateaus.

[quote]Chapeloere wrote:
Hey Shadow,

Would you take insuline if you could only afford 5iu generic hgh a day ? (hygetropin)

Thx[/quote]

It all depends how lean you are. If you have very low bodyfat it might work well but I wouldn’t risk it because I doubt the hygetropin is real. Also, if your body responds well to carbs it’s a possibility.

If you post current pictures I can give you my opinion.

[quote]CxTucker wrote:
If you were focusing strictly on overall strength, olympic lift progression, while maintaining size, what type of compounds would you advise stacking? While this is very individual, I was thinking something simple along the lines of 1:1 Test to Deca, as well as using orals such as dbol to break through plateaus. [/quote]

Test and tren 1:1 tren will give you better overall strength and size. Dbol or tbol would be your best choice for orals. If you don’t want to gain more weight (if you have a weight category to fit into) halo would work well for strength gains and will keep you hard.

Tren/test/dbol is one of the most efficient stacks that you could try for strength and size. Not a big fan of deca because it won’t give you much for strength gains and the extra weight is mostly water weight. Tren is superior in every way possible for your goals.

Tren/test/dbol. OR. Tren/test/halo

Dosages will depend on your history.

If you want something more specific for yourself, you know the drill! Give me the info and pics.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]CxTucker wrote:
If you were focusing strictly on overall strength, olympic lift progression, while maintaining size, what type of compounds would you advise stacking? While this is very individual, I was thinking something simple along the lines of 1:1 Test to Deca, as well as using orals such as dbol to break through plateaus. [/quote]

Test and tren 1:1 tren will give you better overall strength and size. Dbol or tbol would be your best choice for orals. If you don’t want to gain more weight (if you have a weight category to fit into) halo would work well for strength gains and will keep you hard.

Tren/test/dbol is one of the most efficient stacks that you could try for strength and size. Not a big fan of deca because it won’t give you much for strength gains and the extra weight is mostly water weight. Tren is superior in every way possible for your goals.

Tren/test/dbol. OR. Tren/test/halo

Dosages will depend on your history.

If you want something more specific for yourself, you know the drill! Give me the info and pics.
[/quote]

  1. Would you still recommend Tren if the goals have nothing to do with aesthetics? I LOVE what tren makes me look like, but hate how it makes me feel.
  2. How would you recommend running the Halo, 4 on / 4 off?

I won’t be focusing on size gains AT ALL during this. Not prepping for a meet, just focusing on getting my numbers up.

[quote]CxTucker wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]CxTucker wrote:
If you were focusing strictly on overall strength, olympic lift progression, while maintaining size, what type of compounds would you advise stacking? While this is very individual, I was thinking something simple along the lines of 1:1 Test to Deca, as well as using orals such as dbol to break through plateaus. [/quote]

Test and tren 1:1 tren will give you better overall strength and size. Dbol or tbol would be your best choice for orals. If you don’t want to gain more weight (if you have a weight category to fit into) halo would work well for strength gains and will keep you hard.

Tren/test/dbol is one of the most efficient stacks that you could try for strength and size. Not a big fan of deca because it won’t give you much for strength gains and the extra weight is mostly water weight. Tren is superior in every way possible for your goals.

Tren/test/dbol. OR. Tren/test/halo

Dosages will depend on your history.

If you want something more specific for yourself, you know the drill! Give me the info and pics.
[/quote]

  1. Would you still recommend Tren if the goals have nothing to do with aesthetics? I LOVE what tren makes me look like, but hate how it makes me feel.
  2. How would you recommend running the Halo, 4 on / 4 off?

I won’t be focusing on size gains AT ALL during this. Not prepping for a meet, just focusing on getting my numbers up.[/quote]

  1. I would still recommend it, as it’s the best injectable for strength purposes and for aggression in the gym. When the goal is to increase your strength this is your best option. Tren doesn’t make anyone feel great, but in what way is it making you feel bad? Some of the side effects can be counteracted by the use of caber.

  2. I would ramp up the halo for the first 4-6 weeks of the cycle. Start with 20 and bump it up 10mg every week, the top dose would depend on how you tolerate the side effects. Some people can only deal with about 40-50mg and I’ve heard of strength athletes who use up to 100mg/day (very experienced ones)
    Have you used halo before?

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]CxTucker wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]CxTucker wrote:
If you were focusing strictly on overall strength, olympic lift progression, while maintaining size, what type of compounds would you advise stacking? While this is very individual, I was thinking something simple along the lines of 1:1 Test to Deca, as well as using orals such as dbol to break through plateaus. [/quote]

Test and tren 1:1 tren will give you better overall strength and size. Dbol or tbol would be your best choice for orals. If you don’t want to gain more weight (if you have a weight category to fit into) halo would work well for strength gains and will keep you hard.

Tren/test/dbol is one of the most efficient stacks that you could try for strength and size. Not a big fan of deca because it won’t give you much for strength gains and the extra weight is mostly water weight. Tren is superior in every way possible for your goals.

Tren/test/dbol. OR. Tren/test/halo

Dosages will depend on your history.

If you want something more specific for yourself, you know the drill! Give me the info and pics.
[/quote]

  1. Would you still recommend Tren if the goals have nothing to do with aesthetics? I LOVE what tren makes me look like, but hate how it makes me feel.
  2. How would you recommend running the Halo, 4 on / 4 off?

I won’t be focusing on size gains AT ALL during this. Not prepping for a meet, just focusing on getting my numbers up.[/quote]

  1. I would still recommend it, as it’s the best injectable for strength purposes and for aggression in the gym. When the goal is to increase your strength this is your best option. Tren doesn’t make anyone feel great, but in what way is it making you feel bad? Some of the side effects can be counteracted by the use of caber.

  2. I would ramp up the halo for the first 4-6 weeks of the cycle. Start with 20 and bump it up 10mg every week, the top dose would depend on how you tolerate the side effects. Some people can only deal with about 40-50mg and I’ve heard of strength athletes who use up to 100mg/day (very experienced ones)
    Have you used halo before?
    [/quote]

  1. Not so much individual sides, but just dealing with the sides over a long period of time takes a mental toll on me. I planned on running this blast for 16 weeks. It’s more so just the toll it takes on my cardiovascular abilities… not that I’m doing a ton of conditioning work, but high rep squats can leave me gassed for 5 minutes straight.

  2. Haven’t used halo before; planned on running 20mg for 4 weeks to start but ramping it sounds like a better plan. I would probably just take it week by week and decide to up the dose on the spot after taking side effects into account.

[quote]CxTucker wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]CxTucker wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]CxTucker wrote:
If you were focusing strictly on overall strength, olympic lift progression, while maintaining size, what type of compounds would you advise stacking? While this is very individual, I was thinking something simple along the lines of 1:1 Test to Deca, as well as using orals such as dbol to break through plateaus. [/quote]

Test and tren 1:1 tren will give you better overall strength and size. Dbol or tbol would be your best choice for orals. If you don’t want to gain more weight (if you have a weight category to fit into) halo would work well for strength gains and will keep you hard.

Tren/test/dbol is one of the most efficient stacks that you could try for strength and size. Not a big fan of deca because it won’t give you much for strength gains and the extra weight is mostly water weight. Tren is superior in every way possible for your goals.

Tren/test/dbol. OR. Tren/test/halo

Dosages will depend on your history.

If you want something more specific for yourself, you know the drill! Give me the info and pics.
[/quote]

  1. Would you still recommend Tren if the goals have nothing to do with aesthetics? I LOVE what tren makes me look like, but hate how it makes me feel.
  2. How would you recommend running the Halo, 4 on / 4 off?

I won’t be focusing on size gains AT ALL during this. Not prepping for a meet, just focusing on getting my numbers up.[/quote]

  1. I would still recommend it, as it’s the best injectable for strength purposes and for aggression in the gym. When the goal is to increase your strength this is your best option. Tren doesn’t make anyone feel great, but in what way is it making you feel bad? Some of the side effects can be counteracted by the use of caber.

  2. I would ramp up the halo for the first 4-6 weeks of the cycle. Start with 20 and bump it up 10mg every week, the top dose would depend on how you tolerate the side effects. Some people can only deal with about 40-50mg and I’ve heard of strength athletes who use up to 100mg/day (very experienced ones)
    Have you used halo before?
    [/quote]

  1. Not so much individual sides, but just dealing with the sides over a long period of time takes a mental toll on me. I planned on running this blast for 16 weeks. It’s more so just the toll it takes on my cardiovascular abilities… not that I’m doing a ton of conditioning work, but high rep squats can leave me gassed for 5 minutes straight.

  2. Haven’t used halo before; planned on running 20mg for 4 weeks to start but ramping it sounds like a better plan. I would probably just take it week by week and decide to up the dose on the spot after taking side effects into account.[/quote]

Ok, try this…
Add EQ into the mix and it will help with your rep endurance and only run the tren for part of the cycle

Week 1-16 EQ & test
Week 1-8 tren-a
Week 1-6 halo
Week 11-16 dbol

Good call on the halo, see how it goes and decide from there.

You might want to use caber to help battle the tren side effects. Wait until you start to see how you’re managing this time and if any issues occur I would add it.

Cxtucker

Don’t forget to add antiestrogens and HCG in the cycle.

I would also add micro-pa to the cycle, you’d be surprised how effective it works together with the halo.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Chapeloere wrote:
Hey Shadow,

Would you take insuline if you could only afford 5iu generic hgh a day ? (hygetropin)

Thx[/quote]

It all depends how lean you are. If you have very low bodyfat it might work well but I wouldn’t risk it because I doubt the hygetropin is real. Also, if your body responds well to carbs it’s a possibility.

If you post current pictures I can give you my opinion.[/quote]

I have yellow tops with securitycode I can check on the hygetropin.cn site.
Why do you think it’s not real?

I’m not lean at all at this point. I stopped training for 3 months and got out of shape. I just want to maximize my HGH results. Should I save the insuline for later?

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
Ok, try this…
Add EQ into the mix and it will help with your rep endurance and only run the tren for part of the cycle

Week 1-16 EQ & test
Week 1-8 tren-a
Week 1-6 halo
Week 11-16 dbol

Good call on the halo, see how it goes and decide from there.

You might want to use caber to help battle the tren side effects. Wait until you start to see how you’re managing this time and if any issues occur I would add it.
[/quote]

Sounds like a good plan there. Already running Prami + Aromasin daily so I’m set there.

Appreciate the help, as always Shadow.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]tazzx wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]tazzx wrote:
Hi shadow.
i’ve had a few questions ive been meaning to ask for a while and finally got around to.

Are there any supplements that you personally believe aren’t a waste of time?
I.e whey/amino acids/glutamine/creatine things of that nature

a more personalized question:
i am 2 years into lifting, 230lbs, 6’, and a decent amount of muscle but nothing too special. currently cutting at 2k calories a day. i have aspirations of being at that ifbb level (and yes i know how little of a chance that actually can be with genetics/gear reaction/health etc). however i am just over 21 years old and ive been thinking it’s starting to get pretty late to start cycling as most of the guys i see win olympias were on heaps of goodies before they even turned 20 and already had incredible physiques

that said, assuming there were no health complications and i was to get my blood tests every few months among checking blood pressure daily, would you recommend just cruising after i blast the first 12 or so weeks, or do you just recommend i start with a cycle. (most likely would just be test e/c)

At what year of your life did you hop on for the first time, what was your first cycle, and how long did it take you to stay on for a prolonged period?

Also as for my calves, I for the life of me can’t seem to grow them. I’ve tried high volume and low volume, frequent training and infrequent training. Still trying to think of anything I can do as I wear shorts a ton and as of now it looks like I’ve never worked legs in my life knees down. So what do you think about incline treadmill on leg day or in general for calve growth? Good idea?[/quote]

I believe there are a lot of great supplements that aren’t a waste of time. If you read any of my first thread you’d see the reason I actually started writing here on T-Nation is because I’ve been a long term Biotest user. For all of my years I was sponsored by companies who had garbage supplements and I always continued to order by supplements here. The most important and my all time favorite at the moment is the Plazma, I honestly don’t believe there is anything that can touch the quality of this product. I use Plazma and MAG-10 year round. Micro-pa is a relatively new product here and it’s something you don’t have to cycle off from so I’ve been on it continually for months now and never lost any strength as I usually do during my diets which was suprising.

Most of the time I’m using a shitload of supplements along with the juice I take. I’m going to be going into my pct in the next month and here are some very important supplements I have on hand and ready to go. AlphaMale, Carbolin 19-19, circumin, Flameout. Proper supplementation can help immensely with recovery after a cycle and also keeping your health while on cycle. Flameout and circumin are also a staple for me year round.

After 2 years of lifting I wouldn’t start a cycle, I think it’s too early. You need to max your own potential before going into this or you’ll be shooting yourself in the foot when it comes to results. You need a good solid foundation naturally from a good diet, supplements and training… Only then you should add a cycle. I would give it a few more years before considering it.

I had a good 5-6 years of serious training before I took anything.

Incline walking is great for calves, you could do this for 15-20 min after each workout and don’t hold on the treadmill. High frequency (3x/week at least) and a combination of heavy lifting, high reps and high intensity is the key.
[/quote]
Alright.

Also I’ve just began understanding the importance of nutrition and have only just started (a lot of what you’ve said in past posts finally stuck) carb timing.
For exmaple I’m currently cutting and I’ll have around 200 carbs a day, usually about 120-150 of them will be from before and after my workout.

That seems pretty clear cut, however what about bulking? You obviously won’t be able to eat the majority of your carbs in 1-2 sittings on a bulk so where would you place them at through the day periodically.

Also off days? I know you should be cutting carbs a ton during these, but is there any best time to have them?

Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate it.

[/quote]

If you’re cutting, the majority of your carbs should be intraworkout. So if you are currently eating 200g daily then you can have 120-150 of those from Plazma intraworkout. For an offseason the same idea applies, you should have the majority of carbs intraworkout(whatever you can handle) and the rest of them should be in this order: 1. Preworkout 2. Post workout 3. Morning 4. Before bed

In the off season I’ve had up to 300g intraworkout and that the beauty of Plazma for people who aren’t big eaters like myself. These numbers of carbs are literally impossible to consume using solid foods alone and this is partly why Plazma has been such a big game changer in my career.[/quote]

Evan centopani puts the bulk of his carbs pre and right after his workout and the bulk of his fats all post workout and later in the day. What is your stance on this and where you put your fats through out the day?

Also what’s your stance on if it fits your macros? If i had caloric room for a pepsi would it be the worst thing to drink while cutting or even bulking

Lastly, I used to be ex morbidly obese (5’9 320lbs) at 17 years old
Currently 21 (5’11 230)[still struggling with loose skin a bit] with an okay muscle base. As I said earlier my goal physique is something of IFBB stature although that could be irrelevant to the question. Do you believe someone can recomp into a great physique or do you think the only real ways to get there are through cutting and bulking? And what are your thoughts on recomping on a cycle?

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]julianahardcore wrote:
Hi Shadow

can you help me with my cutting?i would like 10%bf
weight 180pounds
bf 30%

drugs: clenbuterol,t3,t4,ketotifen,eca,yohimbine,nolvadex,arimidex,winstrol,oxandrolone

my diet

meal 1
yogurt diet 300gr
fish oil 2gr

meal 2
100gr chicken grilled
olive oil 5gr
salad

meal 3 same meal 2

meal 4 pre workout
5gr bcaa+ 2 scoops mag

meal 5 post workout
5gr bcaa + 2 scoops mag

meal 6
100gr meat grilled
5gr olive oil
salada
2gr fish oil

weightlifting 4x week
cardio 30mins 3x week

thanks

[/quote]

Hi,

Can you please post pictures so I can see who I’m dealing with.

I’m not sure if you are a male or a female based on your username? If you are a male you should by no means be using any kind of drugs at 30% bodyfat. You need to adjust your diet, training and cardio before even thinking about it.

What kind of weight training are you doing? How does the program look?

Yogurt should come out of meal one and be replaced with another solid protein (egg whites could be an option)

I don’t see any carbs here, you probably should eliminate them completely. This is why I want to see pictures! Carbs are not the devil… You just need to time them correctly.

I can help you further once I see the photos.
[/quote]

ok i will change yogurt for 3 eggs…my workout is

monday pecs and biceps
tuesday legs
wednesday cardio 30mins
thursday back and abs
friday delts and trices
saturaday cardio 30mins
sunday cardio 30mins

I want to get really ripped

[quote]Chapeloere wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Chapeloere wrote:
Hey Shadow,

Would you take insuline if you could only afford 5iu generic hgh a day ? (hygetropin)

Thx[/quote]

It all depends how lean you are. If you have very low bodyfat it might work well but I wouldn’t risk it because I doubt the hygetropin is real. Also, if your body responds well to carbs it’s a possibility.

If you post current pictures I can give you my opinion.[/quote]

I have yellow tops with securitycode I can check on the hygetropin.cn site.
Why do you think it’s not real?

I’m not lean at all at this point. I stopped training for 3 months and got out of shape. I just want to maximize my HGH results. Should I save the insuline for later?[/quote]

If you have something that works for you and you think it’s legit, that’s excellent! From my experience, most underground GH is very hit and miss (and that’s an understatement)

I would most definitely not use insulin right now if you’re not lean and you haven’t been training regularly. It will not help you maximize the GH and won’t help with body composition. You can think about adding it later on once you get back into the swing of things.

I cannot see how you look from this photo, it just looks like a silhouette. But from what you say, I’d just stick with the GH and forget about the insulin for now.

[quote]CxTucker wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
Ok, try this…
Add EQ into the mix and it will help with your rep endurance and only run the tren for part of the cycle

Week 1-16 EQ & test
Week 1-8 tren-a
Week 1-6 halo
Week 11-16 dbol

Good call on the halo, see how it goes and decide from there.

You might want to use caber to help battle the tren side effects. Wait until you start to see how you’re managing this time and if any issues occur I would add it.
[/quote]

Sounds like a good plan there. Already running Prami + Aromasin daily so I’m set there.

Appreciate the help, as always Shadow. [/quote]

If you’re running these already then you are doing it correctly. Let me know how everything goes, good luck!

[quote]tazzx wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]tazzx wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]tazzx wrote:
Hi shadow.
i’ve had a few questions ive been meaning to ask for a while and finally got around to.

Are there any supplements that you personally believe aren’t a waste of time?
I.e whey/amino acids/glutamine/creatine things of that nature

a more personalized question:
i am 2 years into lifting, 230lbs, 6’, and a decent amount of muscle but nothing too special. currently cutting at 2k calories a day. i have aspirations of being at that ifbb level (and yes i know how little of a chance that actually can be with genetics/gear reaction/health etc). however i am just over 21 years old and ive been thinking it’s starting to get pretty late to start cycling as most of the guys i see win olympias were on heaps of goodies before they even turned 20 and already had incredible physiques

that said, assuming there were no health complications and i was to get my blood tests every few months among checking blood pressure daily, would you recommend just cruising after i blast the first 12 or so weeks, or do you just recommend i start with a cycle. (most likely would just be test e/c)

At what year of your life did you hop on for the first time, what was your first cycle, and how long did it take you to stay on for a prolonged period?

Also as for my calves, I for the life of me can’t seem to grow them. I’ve tried high volume and low volume, frequent training and infrequent training. Still trying to think of anything I can do as I wear shorts a ton and as of now it looks like I’ve never worked legs in my life knees down. So what do you think about incline treadmill on leg day or in general for calve growth? Good idea?[/quote]

I believe there are a lot of great supplements that aren’t a waste of time. If you read any of my first thread you’d see the reason I actually started writing here on T-Nation is because I’ve been a long term Biotest user. For all of my years I was sponsored by companies who had garbage supplements and I always continued to order by supplements here. The most important and my all time favorite at the moment is the Plazma, I honestly don’t believe there is anything that can touch the quality of this product. I use Plazma and MAG-10 year round. Micro-pa is a relatively new product here and it’s something you don’t have to cycle off from so I’ve been on it continually for months now and never lost any strength as I usually do during my diets which was suprising.

Most of the time I’m using a shitload of supplements along with the juice I take. I’m going to be going into my pct in the next month and here are some very important supplements I have on hand and ready to go. AlphaMale, Carbolin 19-19, circumin, Flameout. Proper supplementation can help immensely with recovery after a cycle and also keeping your health while on cycle. Flameout and circumin are also a staple for me year round.

After 2 years of lifting I wouldn’t start a cycle, I think it’s too early. You need to max your own potential before going into this or you’ll be shooting yourself in the foot when it comes to results. You need a good solid foundation naturally from a good diet, supplements and training… Only then you should add a cycle. I would give it a few more years before considering it.

I had a good 5-6 years of serious training before I took anything.

Incline walking is great for calves, you could do this for 15-20 min after each workout and don’t hold on the treadmill. High frequency (3x/week at least) and a combination of heavy lifting, high reps and high intensity is the key.
[/quote]
Alright.

Also I’ve just began understanding the importance of nutrition and have only just started (a lot of what you’ve said in past posts finally stuck) carb timing.
For exmaple I’m currently cutting and I’ll have around 200 carbs a day, usually about 120-150 of them will be from before and after my workout.

That seems pretty clear cut, however what about bulking? You obviously won’t be able to eat the majority of your carbs in 1-2 sittings on a bulk so where would you place them at through the day periodically.

Also off days? I know you should be cutting carbs a ton during these, but is there any best time to have them?

Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate it.

[/quote]

If you’re cutting, the majority of your carbs should be intraworkout. So if you are currently eating 200g daily then you can have 120-150 of those from Plazma intraworkout. For an offseason the same idea applies, you should have the majority of carbs intraworkout(whatever you can handle) and the rest of them should be in this order: 1. Preworkout 2. Post workout 3. Morning 4. Before bed

In the off season I’ve had up to 300g intraworkout and that the beauty of Plazma for people who aren’t big eaters like myself. These numbers of carbs are literally impossible to consume using solid foods alone and this is partly why Plazma has been such a big game changer in my career.[/quote]

Evan centopani puts the bulk of his carbs pre and right after his workout and the bulk of his fats all post workout and later in the day. What is your stance on this and where you put your fats through out the day?

Also what’s your stance on if it fits your macros? If i had caloric room for a pepsi would it be the worst thing to drink while cutting or even bulking

Lastly, I used to be ex morbidly obese (5’9 320lbs) at 17 years old
Currently 21 (5’11 230)[still struggling with loose skin a bit] with an okay muscle base. As I said earlier my goal physique is something of IFBB stature although that could be irrelevant to the question. Do you believe someone can recomp into a great physique or do you think the only real ways to get there are through cutting and bulking? And what are your thoughts on recomping on a cycle?
[/quote]

I like to put my fats in meals with low or no carbs and before bed to slow absorption down throughout the night.

I think if it fits you macros is a shitty idea, simply because the quality of the food your body needs is very important. You can’t compare a steak to a pizza no matter how you turn it. If you are choosing healthy choices for food(bodybuilding friendly) in a iifym style diet then it might work in the off season… Pepsi wouldn’t be an advisable choice AT ALL. Save it for your cheat meals.

It all depends on the level you want to get to. I don’t like the classic terms “cutting & bulking” in order to lose bodyfat you need to be in a calorie deficit and in order to gain muscle you need to be in a surplus. If you want to call it cutting and bulking that’s fine but it’s not so simple. The leaner you want to be, the longer and harder you’ll have to diet. The more muscle you want to add then you are looking at longer periods of time in a calorie surplus. Training will need to be correlating with the diet.

I don’t know what you mean by an ok muscle base. I need to see pictures to see where you’re at.

[quote]julianahardcore wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]julianahardcore wrote:
Hi Shadow

can you help me with my cutting?i would like 10%bf
weight 180pounds
bf 30%

drugs: clenbuterol,t3,t4,ketotifen,eca,yohimbine,nolvadex,arimidex,winstrol,oxandrolone

my diet

meal 1
yogurt diet 300gr
fish oil 2gr

meal 2
100gr chicken grilled
olive oil 5gr
salad

meal 3 same meal 2

meal 4 pre workout
5gr bcaa+ 2 scoops mag

meal 5 post workout
5gr bcaa + 2 scoops mag

meal 6
100gr meat grilled
5gr olive oil
salada
2gr fish oil

weightlifting 4x week
cardio 30mins 3x week

thanks

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Hi,

Can you please post pictures so I can see who I’m dealing with.

I’m not sure if you are a male or a female based on your username? If you are a male you should by no means be using any kind of drugs at 30% bodyfat. You need to adjust your diet, training and cardio before even thinking about it.

What kind of weight training are you doing? How does the program look?

Yogurt should come out of meal one and be replaced with another solid protein (egg whites could be an option)

I don’t see any carbs here, you probably should eliminate them completely. This is why I want to see pictures! Carbs are not the devil… You just need to time them correctly.

I can help you further once I see the photos.
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ok i will change yogurt for 3 eggs…my workout is

monday pecs and biceps
tuesday legs
wednesday cardio 30mins
thursday back and abs
friday delts and trices
saturaday cardio 30mins
sunday cardio 30mins

I want to get really ripped[/quote]

First of all, stay away from the drugs… You have no need for it right now.

Increase your cardio to 45 min 5-6days/week.

Add supplements like Indigo, Carbolin 19-19 and HOT-ROX to help with body composition.

Plazma intraworkout @ 1-2 scoops. It will not hurt you, it will only help. Right now you don’t have any carbs in your diet and you need some.

Train lower body twice a week.

Also, I would consider doing full upper body days. You don’t need to separate the body parts, this is more of a bodybuilding style training split. And it doesn’t seem bodybuilding is the goal :slight_smile:

I cannot urge you enough to stay away from the drugs. I KNOW you can improve just with proper diet and training.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]tazzx wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]tazzx wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]tazzx wrote:
Hi shadow.
i’ve had a few questions ive been meaning to ask for a while and finally got around to.

Are there any supplements that you personally believe aren’t a waste of time?
I.e whey/amino acids/glutamine/creatine things of that nature

a more personalized question:
i am 2 years into lifting, 230lbs, 6’, and a decent amount of muscle but nothing too special. currently cutting at 2k calories a day. i have aspirations of being at that ifbb level (and yes i know how little of a chance that actually can be with genetics/gear reaction/health etc). however i am just over 21 years old and ive been thinking it’s starting to get pretty late to start cycling as most of the guys i see win olympias were on heaps of goodies before they even turned 20 and already had incredible physiques

that said, assuming there were no health complications and i was to get my blood tests every few months among checking blood pressure daily, would you recommend just cruising after i blast the first 12 or so weeks, or do you just recommend i start with a cycle. (most likely would just be test e/c)

At what year of your life did you hop on for the first time, what was your first cycle, and how long did it take you to stay on for a prolonged period?

Also as for my calves, I for the life of me can’t seem to grow them. I’ve tried high volume and low volume, frequent training and infrequent training. Still trying to think of anything I can do as I wear shorts a ton and as of now it looks like I’ve never worked legs in my life knees down. So what do you think about incline treadmill on leg day or in general for calve growth? Good idea?[/quote]

I believe there are a lot of great supplements that aren’t a waste of time. If you read any of my first thread you’d see the reason I actually started writing here on T-Nation is because I’ve been a long term Biotest user. For all of my years I was sponsored by companies who had garbage supplements and I always continued to order by supplements here. The most important and my all time favorite at the moment is the Plazma, I honestly don’t believe there is anything that can touch the quality of this product. I use Plazma and MAG-10 year round. Micro-pa is a relatively new product here and it’s something you don’t have to cycle off from so I’ve been on it continually for months now and never lost any strength as I usually do during my diets which was suprising.

Most of the time I’m using a shitload of supplements along with the juice I take. I’m going to be going into my pct in the next month and here are some very important supplements I have on hand and ready to go. AlphaMale, Carbolin 19-19, circumin, Flameout. Proper supplementation can help immensely with recovery after a cycle and also keeping your health while on cycle. Flameout and circumin are also a staple for me year round.

After 2 years of lifting I wouldn’t start a cycle, I think it’s too early. You need to max your own potential before going into this or you’ll be shooting yourself in the foot when it comes to results. You need a good solid foundation naturally from a good diet, supplements and training… Only then you should add a cycle. I would give it a few more years before considering it.

I had a good 5-6 years of serious training before I took anything.

Incline walking is great for calves, you could do this for 15-20 min after each workout and don’t hold on the treadmill. High frequency (3x/week at least) and a combination of heavy lifting, high reps and high intensity is the key.
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Alright.

Also I’ve just began understanding the importance of nutrition and have only just started (a lot of what you’ve said in past posts finally stuck) carb timing.
For exmaple I’m currently cutting and I’ll have around 200 carbs a day, usually about 120-150 of them will be from before and after my workout.

That seems pretty clear cut, however what about bulking? You obviously won’t be able to eat the majority of your carbs in 1-2 sittings on a bulk so where would you place them at through the day periodically.

Also off days? I know you should be cutting carbs a ton during these, but is there any best time to have them?

Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate it.

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If you’re cutting, the majority of your carbs should be intraworkout. So if you are currently eating 200g daily then you can have 120-150 of those from Plazma intraworkout. For an offseason the same idea applies, you should have the majority of carbs intraworkout(whatever you can handle) and the rest of them should be in this order: 1. Preworkout 2. Post workout 3. Morning 4. Before bed

In the off season I’ve had up to 300g intraworkout and that the beauty of Plazma for people who aren’t big eaters like myself. These numbers of carbs are literally impossible to consume using solid foods alone and this is partly why Plazma has been such a big game changer in my career.[/quote]

Evan centopani puts the bulk of his carbs pre and right after his workout and the bulk of his fats all post workout and later in the day. What is your stance on this and where you put your fats through out the day?

Also what’s your stance on if it fits your macros? If i had caloric room for a pepsi would it be the worst thing to drink while cutting or even bulking

Lastly, I used to be ex morbidly obese (5’9 320lbs) at 17 years old
Currently 21 (5’11 230)[still struggling with loose skin a bit] with an okay muscle base. As I said earlier my goal physique is something of IFBB stature although that could be irrelevant to the question. Do you believe someone can recomp into a great physique or do you think the only real ways to get there are through cutting and bulking? And what are your thoughts on recomping on a cycle?
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I like to put my fats in meals with low or no carbs and before bed to slow absorption down throughout the night.

I think if it fits you macros is a shitty idea, simply because the quality of the food your body needs is very important. You can’t compare a steak to a pizza no matter how you turn it. If you are choosing healthy choices for food(bodybuilding friendly) in a iifym style diet then it might work in the off season… Pepsi wouldn’t be an advisable choice AT ALL. Save it for your cheat meals.

It all depends on the level you want to get to. I don’t like the classic terms “cutting & bulking” in order to lose bodyfat you need to be in a calorie deficit and in order to gain muscle you need to be in a surplus. If you want to call it cutting and bulking that’s fine but it’s not so simple. The leaner you want to be, the longer and harder you’ll have to diet. The more muscle you want to add then you are looking at longer periods of time in a calorie surplus. Training will need to be correlating with the diet.

I don’t know what you mean by an ok muscle base. I need to see pictures to see where you’re at.[/quote]

attached picture for help. some loose skin on my tummy/breasts and inner thighs that arent being shown.

also what i think would be better putting what i was trying to say, do you believe it’s possible to grow out of fat and into muscle eating exceptionally clean at maintenance for a natural lifter?