Hey Shadow,
While it’s very individual, at what amount of gear do you think GH starts becoming necessary to utilize it all? I have a few legit GH sources, but even running low doses at 4iu ED would practically bankrupt me (not so serious, but you understand).
I wanted to loose as much fat as possible and gain muscles, i also wanted to do a show but i do not think i will do it this year i might need a tummy tuck.
I also wanted to ask you what do you think of eating 8oz 96% lean beef and 1 cup of rice ( my coach told me to do it ) after a workout instead of vitargo and protein isolate ???
How do you think i can improve my conditioning ?? i do 1 hr cardio fasted 30 minutes hiit 6x a week i cheat sometimes but its ones every 2 or 3 weeks and my diet look like that :
GH up on wakin 3ius
meal 1
6 oz flounder
1 cup greens
Between meals 1 & 2
leucin 10g
arginin 5g
NAC
Meal 2
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup of quinoa
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms
Between meals 2 and 3
75mcg T3 r we goin to up the dostage or there is no need to do it ?
Meal 3
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup quinoa
greens
Meal 4
6 oz 96% lean red meat
6 oz yams
1/2 cup greens
Meal 5
6 oz grilled chicken
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms
GH 3IUs
Between meals 4 & 5
Leucin 10g
Arginin 5g
NAC 600
Meal 6
6 oz 90% lean red meet
spinach
6 strings of asparagus
I got one more question 
Dont Pro Body Builders cycle all year round ???
I am kinda scared to do PCT, i think its way easier to gain fat during PCT …
I hired a coach he is a pro and he wants me to do 40 days off a year with hcg clomid proviron aromasin and 250mg of test Week
I do not think about kids now but who knows whats gonna be in the future …
Damn. I typed out the entire question but for some reason it was not all there. I am a 5’11 210lb endomorph at about 9% BF. I was wondering peace week advice as far as carving up, water manipulation, and sodium intake. I have heard to front load carbs earlier in the week and then dwindle down until night before show, and I have heard the opposite building your way up.
Water manipulation also confuses me because your muscles are mainly water but you are retrying to pull water from the body to look less smooth and flabby. And I have also been curious about some pre-stage tricks that I have heard such as a candy bar and glass of red wine 30min prior to stage for vascularity. So basically:
-Water and sodium manipulation
-Pre-stage rituals (Candy bar or quick sugary snack, rice cake PBJ, red wine, etc.)
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]indigo_blue wrote:
Just had to say, and I won’t mention it again… it might be off topic but I don’t care. I’m pissed. They stole it from Kai this year.[/quote]
Couldn’t agree more… Like I mentioned before, what you bring to stage isn’t the ONLY thing that counts here, politics can go a long way. I feel bad for the dude. In prejudging Phil came in flat and wasn’t as impressive, I didn’t have him higher than 3rd here. Kai was great in prejudging but faded a bit in finals but in all fairness it should have been his show… But who am I to say![/quote]
When you say politics is it that Phil just makes a better face for bodybuilding to the general public or actually who he knows?
Personally I figured there was nothing Kai could do to win, Phil has done a lot to bring bodybuilding into the mainstream media with his appearances on ESPN and such whereas the media could rip apart Kai with his background and his odd personality.
How did you feel about the other placings?
[/quote]
It’s a combination of a lot of things. He’s a lot closer the people who run the IFBB and he’s closer with the judges. They like him more because of his personality and he’s a better politician who makes more money for the federation. It’s a win/win situation for Phil when you take Kai’s past into consideration and sadly none of these things have anything to do with bodybuilding. If it was based just on just the physique that was presented on stage then Kai would have the sandow right now.
As I mentioned in a previous article… It’s more of a beauty pageant than a sport now.
As for other places, I think Dennis should have been 2nd or 3rd. Phil and Shawn would have been fighting for 3rd/4th. William Bonac also got screwed here, he deserved a placing in the top 10. The rest of the placings were a coin toss and could have went any way… Some of the placing obviously had to do with personal connections and affiliations with things other than just pure physique.
[quote]doom44 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]doom44 wrote:
Hi Shadow Pro, do I have to carbs cycling to prevent insulin resistant. Or as long as I stay fairly low body fat it won’t be a issue ? [/quote]
Staying lean is the most important thing but I would definitely consume less carbs in your off days and more carbs on hard training days which is essentially carb cycling. [/quote]
Even when in off season lean bulking phase? [/quote]
Yes, absolutely! You don’t need to get over 10% bf even when you’re trying to gain muscle. As long as you’re under that you can keep food high but most people will have to do some sort of carb cycling to stay under that bodyfat level.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
Hey Shadow, what’s the best cycle for lean mass? I don’t want to get too bulky…
…just kidding. Whether you were competing or just chilling, I hope you got the result you wanted.
I was glad Rhoden got 3rd and Dexter’s still doing well. Those two dudes have my favourite phsyques currently[/quote]
Thank you. It was a great weekend!
Dexter is phenomenal, it’s amazing that he can still bring it at his age… Probably the “prettiest” physique to ever walk on stage. And Rhoden is a modern day Flex Wheeler with better condition.
[quote]michell wrote:
Shadow,
I hope Olympia was great.
And thanks for help me reach my goals. Totally success in my contest but I have to improve a lot of things and learn more how to manage my body. Gyno is so reduced, and I’m gonna start the PCT we talked about. Good job, you are awesome. I have no words to express my gratitude.[/quote]
Glad to hear you did well in your show and I’m happy that I was able to help. Also, good news that your gyno is better.
I have to say that you made exceptional improvements in your legs in such a short period of time. Keep pushing and you’ll keep learning and improving… This is just the start for you!
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]indigo_blue wrote:
Just had to say, and I won’t mention it again… it might be off topic but I don’t care. I’m pissed. They stole it from Kai this year.[/quote]
Couldn’t agree more… Like I mentioned before, what you bring to stage isn’t the ONLY thing that counts here, politics can go a long way. I feel bad for the dude. In prejudging Phil came in flat and wasn’t as impressive, I didn’t have him higher than 3rd here. Kai was great in prejudging but faded a bit in finals but in all fairness it should have been his show… But who am I to say![/quote]
When you say politics is it that Phil just makes a better face for bodybuilding to the general public or actually who he knows?
Personally I figured there was nothing Kai could do to win, Phil has done a lot to bring bodybuilding into the mainstream media with his appearances on ESPN and such whereas the media could rip apart Kai with his background and his odd personality.
How did you feel about the other placings?
[/quote]
It’s a combination of a lot of things. He’s a lot closer the people who run the IFBB and he’s closer with the judges. They like him more because of his personality and he’s a better politician who makes more money for the federation. It’s a win/win situation for Phil when you take Kai’s past into consideration and sadly none of these things have anything to do with bodybuilding. If it was based just on just the physique that was presented on stage then Kai would have the sandow right now.
As I mentioned in a previous article… It’s more of a beauty pageant than a sport now.
As for other places, I think Dennis should have been 2nd or 3rd. Phil and Shawn would have been fighting for 3rd/4th. William Bonac also got screwed here, he deserved a placing in the top 10. The rest of the placings were a coin toss and could have went any way… Some of the placing obviously had to do with personal connections and affiliations with things other than just pure physique.
[/quote]
Haha yes I read your article on that and spot on.
I agree with Denis placing higher but his confetti dance was at least pretty epic.
Thank you for the response, always like hearing the insiders perspective!
[quote]CxTucker wrote:
Hey Shadow,
While it’s very individual, at what amount of gear do you think GH starts becoming necessary to utilize it all? I have a few legit GH sources, but even running low doses at 4iu ED would practically bankrupt me (not so serious, but you understand). [/quote]
For fat loss, recovery and anti aging purposes anything from 2-4 iu will be great but for muscle gaining purposes you’d want to go with 6 or more and stay on it for 6 months or more. The more time you stay on, the more benefits you will see.
[quote]ArSci wrote:
I wanted to loose as much fat as possible and gain muscles, i also wanted to do a show but i do not think i will do it this year i might need a tummy tuck.
I also wanted to ask you what do you think of eating 8oz 96% lean beef and 1 cup of rice ( my coach told me to do it ) after a workout instead of vitargo and protein isolate ???
How do you think i can improve my conditioning ?? i do 1 hr cardio fasted 30 minutes hiit 6x a week i cheat sometimes but its ones every 2 or 3 weeks and my diet look like that :
GH up on wakin 3ius
meal 1
6 oz flounder
1 cup greens
Between meals 1 & 2
leucin 10g
arginin 5g
NAC
Meal 2
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup of quinoa
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms
Between meals 2 and 3
75mcg T3 r we goin to up the dostage or there is no need to do it ?
Meal 3
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup quinoa
greens
Meal 4
6 oz 96% lean red meat
6 oz yams
1/2 cup greens
Meal 5
6 oz grilled chicken
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms
GH 3IUs
Between meals 4 & 5
Leucin 10g
Arginin 5g
NAC 600
Meal 6
6 oz 90% lean red meet
spinach
6 strings of asparagus
I got one more question
Dont Pro Body Builders cycle all year round ???
I am kinda scared to do PCT, i think its way easier to gain fat during PCT …
I hired a coach he is a pro and he wants me to do 40 days off a year with hcg clomid proviron aromasin and 250mg of test Week
I do not think about kids now but who knows whats gonna be in the future …[/quote]
So let me get this straight… You hired a coach who is also a pro bodybuilder but you don’t trust what he’s saying. Why hire someone and then go ask other people for advice?
Some pro bodybuilders cycle year round… Not all of them.
I’m sure your coach has reasons behind what he tells you to do. There’s more than one way to skin a cat… If you are weary about something he’s telling you to do then ask him why he wants you to do it.
The one thing I would add is Plazma, you are missing all of the periworkout nutrition. It’s very important in ANY diet.
[quote]Thor492 wrote:
Damn. I typed out the entire question but for some reason it was not all there. I am a 5’11 210lb endomorph at about 9% BF. I was wondering peace week advice as far as carving up, water manipulation, and sodium intake. I have heard to front load carbs earlier in the week and then dwindle down until night before show, and I have heard the opposite building your way up.
Water manipulation also confuses me because your muscles are mainly water but you are retrying to pull water from the body to look less smooth and flabby. And I have also been curious about some pre-stage tricks that I have heard such as a candy bar and glass of red wine 30min prior to stage for vascularity. So basically:
-Water and sodium manipulation
-Pre-stage rituals (Candy bar or quick sugary snack, rice cake PBJ, red wine, etc.)[/quote]
Completely depends on what you did in your prep… The last few days are planned on the spot based on current condition. There’s no trick or ritual that’s set in stone, it’s completely individual.
Anyone who tells you a magical “plan” for the last week is either an idiot, a liar or a prophet. I have done a LOT of shows and no last week was never the same for me. It depends on your training, diet, current condition, drugs and many other factors.
Hi Shadow, What do you think of my cycle for mass?
177x88kg clean enough
week 1-12
sustanon 250mg eod
boldenone 250mg eod
T propionate 100mg e2d
anadrol 50mg before wo
200mg deca a week
30mg winstrol tabs a day for shgb
1mg cabaser every 4 days
plus humalog
5 workout a week
thanks bro
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]CxTucker wrote:
Hey Shadow,
While it’s very individual, at what amount of gear do you think GH starts becoming necessary to utilize it all? I have a few legit GH sources, but even running low doses at 4iu ED would practically bankrupt me (not so serious, but you understand). [/quote]
For fat loss, recovery and anti aging purposes anything from 2-4 iu will be great but for muscle gaining purposes you’d want to go with 6 or more and stay on it for 6 months or more. The more time you stay on, the more benefits you will see.[/quote]
But I’m talking about using GH to optimize AAS use. While it isn’t necessary for “low” doses, I’m talking about high doses not being fully used by the body without GH. Do you have any input / insight on this?
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]ArSci wrote:
I wanted to loose as much fat as possible and gain muscles, i also wanted to do a show but i do not think i will do it this year i might need a tummy tuck.
I also wanted to ask you what do you think of eating 8oz 96% lean beef and 1 cup of rice ( my coach told me to do it ) after a workout instead of vitargo and protein isolate ???
How do you think i can improve my conditioning ?? i do 1 hr cardio fasted 30 minutes hiit 6x a week i cheat sometimes but its ones every 2 or 3 weeks and my diet look like that :
GH up on wakin 3ius
meal 1
6 oz flounder
1 cup greens
Between meals 1 & 2
leucin 10g
arginin 5g
NAC
Meal 2
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup of quinoa
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms
Between meals 2 and 3
75mcg T3 r we goin to up the dostage or there is no need to do it ?
Meal 3
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup quinoa
greens
Meal 4
6 oz 96% lean red meat
6 oz yams
1/2 cup greens
Meal 5
6 oz grilled chicken
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms
GH 3IUs
Between meals 4 & 5
Leucin 10g
Arginin 5g
NAC 600
Meal 6
6 oz 90% lean red meet
spinach
6 strings of asparagus
I got one more question
Dont Pro Body Builders cycle all year round ???
I am kinda scared to do PCT, i think its way easier to gain fat during PCT …
I hired a coach he is a pro and he wants me to do 40 days off a year with hcg clomid proviron aromasin and 250mg of test Week
I do not think about kids now but who knows whats gonna be in the future …[/quote]
So let me get this straight… You hired a coach who is also a pro bodybuilder but you don’t trust what he’s saying. Why hire someone and then go ask other people for advice?
Some pro bodybuilders cycle year round… Not all of them.
I’m sure your coach has reasons behind what he tells you to do. There’s more than one way to skin a cat… If you are weary about something he’s telling you to do then ask him why he wants you to do it.
The one thing I would add is Plazma, you are missing all of the periworkout nutrition. It’s very important in ANY diet.[/quote]
Ok I will ask him all i wanna find out thank you
he also told me to eat additional meal of 8oz 96% lean beef and 1cup of white rice after a workout …
U think its better to dring liquid carbs during and after wo or just after ???
Hey shadow,
I’m going to start a cycle to bulk up a bit…
800mg of sustanon with 500mg of NPP.
I have a few bottles of tren ace
I’m thinking of adding the tren ace at 100mg eod.
Should I save the tren for cutting? Or should I throw it in…
Do you combine tren and deca in your cycles?
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]doom44 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]doom44 wrote:
Hi Shadow Pro, do I have to carbs cycling to prevent insulin resistant. Or as long as I stay fairly low body fat it won’t be a issue ? [/quote]
Staying lean is the most important thing but I would definitely consume less carbs in your off days and more carbs on hard training days which is essentially carb cycling. [/quote]
Even when in off season lean bulking phase? [/quote]
Yes, absolutely! You don’t need to get over 10% bf even when you’re trying to gain muscle. As long as you’re under that you can keep food high but most people will have to do some sort of carb cycling to stay under that bodyfat level.
[/quote]
Thanks Shadow.
About the carbs cycling technique when i go for low carbs can i just lower my normal carbs 25% Protein and fat remain the same?
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
Hey Shadow, what’s the best cycle for lean mass? I don’t want to get too bulky…
…just kidding. Whether you were competing or just chilling, I hope you got the result you wanted.
I was glad Rhoden got 3rd and Dexter’s still doing well. Those two dudes have my favourite phsyques currently[/quote]
Thank you. It was a great weekend!
Dexter is phenomenal, it’s amazing that he can still bring it at his age… Probably the “prettiest” physique to ever walk on stage. And Rhoden is a modern day Flex Wheeler with better condition.
[/quote]
could not agree more brother, I’m hoping Rhoden’ll add a bit more mass without ruining his “flow” and really do some damage in coming years.
I do actually have some questions for you: how heavy is your oral use? Do you ever stack more than one together? Do you limit their use to a few weeks, and how do you feel about the hepatoxicity in general?
I’d always believed in the merits of keeping oral use short and sweet, but I keep hearing from people how good certain combos are (drol + winny, drol + dbol) and it’s piqued my interest.
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
Hey shadow,
I went to buy hcg yesterday, n couldnt get nythng below 2000 iu. Now if i ve to use 250iu twice a week during course thn fr how long cn i use this 2000iu hcg vial without bacterial formation or ny other problem.
My hcg is coming with 1 ampoule of sodium chloride injection IP (0.9% w/v), n also its written over it to use it immediately after reconstitution.
My ques:
Yes it’s fine to do it sub q but I prefer to do mine intramuscular. You can store it for 10-14days.I use .9% bacteriostatic sodium chloride multidose. There are some with preservatives for multi dose and others that say single dose, go to the pharmacy and ask for a multidose 10-30ml bottle.
[/quote]
Hi shadow,
Bro m nt getting ny bac water here in india, leave aside multi dose bac water…is thr ny oder way of using it Multiple times, or ill i jst have to waste 1750iu of hcg evrytym i pin…plz help, its gonna b really costly tht way
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]michell wrote:
Shadow,
I hope Olympia was great.
And thanks for help me reach my goals. Totally success in my contest but I have to improve a lot of things and learn more how to manage my body. Gyno is so reduced, and I’m gonna start the PCT we talked about. Good job, you are awesome. I have no words to express my gratitude.[/quote]
Glad to hear you did well in your show and I’m happy that I was able to help. Also, good news that your gyno is better.
I have to say that you made exceptional improvements in your legs in such a short period of time. Keep pushing and you’ll keep learning and improving… This is just the start for you!
[/quote]
Thanks for your words. As you say I’m in the beggining and it’s a matter to choose the right direction and the right effort. Meanwhile you can I ask you a bit support from you.
I’m gonna start the PCT and it’s a new and unknowledge phase either training type or nutrition or keep the progress.
1- Because my body type, stay lean was always my weak point, and the goal in keep under 10% during pct and the whole 8 weeks before starting the next prep. I’m gonna keep my nutrition practicaly the same.
Minor changes:
MEAL 1
1.5 Mag10
MEAL 2
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
1 tbsp EVOO
MEAL 3
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
Some esparagus, artichoke
MEAL 4
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
1 tbsp coconut oil
WORKOUT
3-4 plazma (always indigo and micropa before)
1.5 Mag10 30’ pwo
MEAL 5
I’m gonna change 6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
By red meat
2 cheat dinner meals in leg and back days, triying not binge. Sooooooo difficult
Would you do any specific HIIT protocol? So far 2:2 was great but i don’t know if it’s better a new change once I’m lean.
Training at evening, would you take another dose of indigo if I cheat at dinner? Does plazma affect in refill glycogen cause it’s high content of carbs during training? Or it’s better to have the cheat meail some hours apart.
Im gonna recover 8 weeks and Im gonna start a new prep again. As you have seen my evolution and You know me a bit, can you help me to plan the next cycle and choose the right compounds? So I can prepare it in asvance.
If I keep dieting and training my ass off, once I tappered clen and T4 , is there any action to keep leaner knowing my set point tends to get fat easily?
Thanks
What do you think about using Glucophage after or be4 your cheat meal ??
have you ever used it ??
What dosage would you recommend ??