Shadow Pro Q&A 2.0

Pharma
901

[quote]Narcisus wrote:
Hi Shadow, What do you think of my cycle for mass?
177x88kg clean enough

week 1-12
sustanon 250mg eod
boldenone 250mg eod
T propionate 100mg e2d
anadrol 50mg before wo
200mg deca a week
30mg winstrol tabs a day for shgb
1mg cabaser every 4 days
plus humalog

5 workout a week

thanks bro[/quote]

Those are very high doses! Can you post a picture of yourself and some background information?

I doubt you need such high dosages, but I’d like to see the level you’re at before I make judgements.

Why test-p and sust in the same cycle? Doesn’t make a lot of sense. And why boldenone eod, instead of 2-3 days a week? How much Humalog and when? What’s your diet like?

902

[quote]CxTucker wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]CxTucker wrote:
Hey Shadow,

While it’s very individual, at what amount of gear do you think GH starts becoming necessary to utilize it all? I have a few legit GH sources, but even running low doses at 4iu ED would practically bankrupt me (not so serious, but you understand). [/quote]

For fat loss, recovery and anti aging purposes anything from 2-4 iu will be great but for muscle gaining purposes you’d want to go with 6 or more and stay on it for 6 months or more. The more time you stay on, the more benefits you will see.[/quote]

But I’m talking about using GH to optimize AAS use. While it isn’t necessary for “low” doses, I’m talking about high doses not being fully used by the body without GH. Do you have any input / insight on this?[/quote]

GH will not help or allow you to take higher dosages, the body will only absorb so much regardless but the effects with any dosages of AAS (high or low) is more effective with GH in the mix because of the synergetic effect they have together.

903

[quote]ArSci wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ArSci wrote:
I wanted to loose as much fat as possible and gain muscles, i also wanted to do a show but i do not think i will do it this year i might need a tummy tuck.

I also wanted to ask you what do you think of eating 8oz 96% lean beef and 1 cup of rice ( my coach told me to do it ) after a workout instead of vitargo and protein isolate ???

How do you think i can improve my conditioning ?? i do 1 hr cardio fasted 30 minutes hiit 6x a week i cheat sometimes but its ones every 2 or 3 weeks and my diet look like that :

GH up on wakin 3ius

meal 1
6 oz flounder
1 cup greens

Between meals 1 & 2
leucin 10g
arginin 5g
NAC

Meal 2
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup of quinoa
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms

Between meals 2 and 3

75mcg T3 r we goin to up the dostage or there is no need to do it ?

Meal 3
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup quinoa
greens

Meal 4
6 oz 96% lean red meat
6 oz yams
1/2 cup greens

Meal 5
6 oz grilled chicken
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms

GH 3IUs

Between meals 4 & 5
Leucin 10g
Arginin 5g
NAC 600

Meal 6
6 oz 90% lean red meet
spinach
6 strings of asparagus

I got one more question :slight_smile:

Dont Pro Body Builders cycle all year round ???

I am kinda scared to do PCT, i think its way easier to gain fat during PCT …

I hired a coach he is a pro and he wants me to do 40 days off a year with hcg clomid proviron aromasin and 250mg of test Week

I do not think about kids now but who knows whats gonna be in the future …[/quote]

So let me get this straight… You hired a coach who is also a pro bodybuilder but you don’t trust what he’s saying. Why hire someone and then go ask other people for advice?

Some pro bodybuilders cycle year round… Not all of them.

I’m sure your coach has reasons behind what he tells you to do. There’s more than one way to skin a cat… If you are weary about something he’s telling you to do then ask him why he wants you to do it.

The one thing I would add is Plazma, you are missing all of the periworkout nutrition. It’s very important in ANY diet.[/quote]

Ok I will ask him all i wanna find out :slight_smile: thank you

he also told me to eat additional meal of 8oz 96% lean beef and 1cup of white rice after a workout …

U think its better to dring liquid carbs during and after wo or just after ???[/quote]

I would drop your carbs in meal 2 and lower them significantly in meal 4. Add 2-3 servings of Plazma intraworkout instead of these and you’ll see huge improvement.

Post workout, have 2 servings of MAG-10 and 60-90min later have a solid meal of meat and small portion of carbs (assuming fat loss is your goal)

The Plazma and MAG-10 are superior sources of carbs and protein for peri workout nutrition. The Plazma intra workout is the most important and this is something I would HIGHLY suggest you add here. The rest of your meals can be solid food.

904

[quote]Chapeloere wrote:
Hey shadow,

I’m going to start a cycle to bulk up a bit…
800mg of sustanon with 500mg of NPP.
I have a few bottles of tren ace
I’m thinking of adding the tren ace at 100mg eod.
Should I save the tren for cutting? Or should I throw it in…

Do you combine tren and deca in your cycles?[/quote]

I wouldn’t add the tren to this cycle, I don’t like the combo of tren and deca together. Save it for later!
If you decide to do it anyways, make sure you use caber!!

905

[quote]doom44 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]doom44 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]doom44 wrote:
Hi Shadow Pro, do I have to carbs cycling to prevent insulin resistant. Or as long as I stay fairly low body fat it won’t be a issue ? [/quote]

Staying lean is the most important thing but I would definitely consume less carbs in your off days and more carbs on hard training days which is essentially carb cycling. [/quote]

Even when in off season lean bulking phase? [/quote]

Yes, absolutely! You don’t need to get over 10% bf even when you’re trying to gain muscle. As long as you’re under that you can keep food high but most people will have to do some sort of carb cycling to stay under that bodyfat level.
[/quote]

Thanks Shadow.
About the carbs cycling technique when i go for low carbs can i just lower my normal carbs 25% Protein and fat remain the same?[/quote]

I usually just eliminate the Plazma in my off days, this alone lowers the daily carb intake significantly. I add an extra solid protein meal to make up for the protein from the Plazma. Fat and protein stay the same. The exact percentage would depend on your daily macros and your current condition, the leaner you are the less you should drop.

906

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Hey Shadow, what’s the best cycle for lean mass? I don’t want to get too bulky…

…just kidding. Whether you were competing or just chilling, I hope you got the result you wanted.

I was glad Rhoden got 3rd and Dexter’s still doing well. Those two dudes have my favourite phsyques currently[/quote]

Thank you. It was a great weekend!

Dexter is phenomenal, it’s amazing that he can still bring it at his age… Probably the “prettiest” physique to ever walk on stage. And Rhoden is a modern day Flex Wheeler with better condition.

[/quote]

could not agree more brother, I’m hoping Rhoden’ll add a bit more mass without ruining his “flow” and really do some damage in coming years.

I do actually have some questions for you: how heavy is your oral use? Do you ever stack more than one together? Do you limit their use to a few weeks, and how do you feel about the hepatoxicity in general?

I’d always believed in the merits of keeping oral use short and sweet, but I keep hearing from people how good certain combos are (drol + winny, drol + dbol) and it’s piqued my interest.
[/quote]

Very good question…

If it’s for bodybuilding purposes -
in the offseason I would only keep it to one oral, usually dbol or Anadrol (I prefer dbol) for a maximum of 8 weeks. Slowly tapering up the dose every week.
In competition prep I use orals together for about 8 weeks. It would usually be winstrol from 8 weeks and halo from 6 weeks up to the show. Also, the Proviron and anti-e’s on top of that.

It does raise your levels while you’re using it but I’ve found that as long as I use the NAC and milk thistle while I’m on and take the same amount of time off after then my liver enzymes are going back to a normal level after 6 weeks.

I think the key here is to keep it to a maximum of 8 weeks to be safe.

It gets tricky when it comes to strength sports. Combinations like dbol and Anadrol… Halo and dbol…
Halo, oral tren and dbol will give you INSANE strength gains.

A lot of strength athletes I know use combos like this for 6-8 weeks before their competition. It’s a lot more toxic on your liver. The side effects are individual… Some people will have no issues while others will be knocked down from it. I can definitely see the use of these combos if strength is your main goal but for bodybuilding I don’t think it’s worth it to do more than 1 oral per cycle with the exception of halo and winstrol before a show.

907

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ArSci wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ArSci wrote:
I wanted to loose as much fat as possible and gain muscles, i also wanted to do a show but i do not think i will do it this year i might need a tummy tuck.

I also wanted to ask you what do you think of eating 8oz 96% lean beef and 1 cup of rice ( my coach told me to do it ) after a workout instead of vitargo and protein isolate ???

How do you think i can improve my conditioning ?? i do 1 hr cardio fasted 30 minutes hiit 6x a week i cheat sometimes but its ones every 2 or 3 weeks and my diet look like that :

GH up on wakin 3ius

meal 1
6 oz flounder
1 cup greens

Between meals 1 & 2
leucin 10g
arginin 5g
NAC

Meal 2
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup of quinoa
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms

Between meals 2 and 3

75mcg T3 r we goin to up the dostage or there is no need to do it ?

Meal 3
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup quinoa
greens

Meal 4
6 oz 96% lean red meat
6 oz yams
1/2 cup greens

Meal 5
6 oz grilled chicken
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms

GH 3IUs

Between meals 4 & 5
Leucin 10g
Arginin 5g
NAC 600

Meal 6
6 oz 90% lean red meet
spinach
6 strings of asparagus

I got one more question :slight_smile:

Dont Pro Body Builders cycle all year round ???

I am kinda scared to do PCT, i think its way easier to gain fat during PCT …

I hired a coach he is a pro and he wants me to do 40 days off a year with hcg clomid proviron aromasin and 250mg of test Week

I do not think about kids now but who knows whats gonna be in the future …[/quote]

So let me get this straight… You hired a coach who is also a pro bodybuilder but you don’t trust what he’s saying. Why hire someone and then go ask other people for advice?

Some pro bodybuilders cycle year round… Not all of them.

I’m sure your coach has reasons behind what he tells you to do. There’s more than one way to skin a cat… If you are weary about something he’s telling you to do then ask him why he wants you to do it.

The one thing I would add is Plazma, you are missing all of the periworkout nutrition. It’s very important in ANY diet.[/quote]

Ok I will ask him all i wanna find out :slight_smile: thank you

he also told me to eat additional meal of 8oz 96% lean beef and 1cup of white rice after a workout …

U think its better to dring liquid carbs during and after wo or just after ???[/quote]

I would drop your carbs in meal 2 and lower them significantly in meal 4. Add 2-3 servings of Plazma intraworkout instead of these and you’ll see huge improvement.

Post workout, have 2 servings of MAG-10 and 60-90min later have a solid meal of meat and small portion of carbs (assuming fat loss is your goal)

The Plazma and MAG-10 are superior sources of carbs and protein for peri workout nutrition. The Plazma intra workout is the most important and this is something I would HIGHLY suggest you add here. The rest of your meals can be solid food.
[/quote]

Does it look better ??

Meal 1
6 oz flounder
1 cup greens

Meal 2
8 oz white fish
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms

Between meals 2 and 3

75mcg T3

Meal 3
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup quinoa
greens

Meal 4
6 oz 96% lean red meat
3 oz yams
1/2 cup greens

Meal 5 post workout
6 oz grilled chicken
1 cup white rice
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms

Meal 6
6 oz 90% lean red meet
spinach
6 strings of asparagus

100g of carbs from plazma intra
Mag10 aftger workout

i also do

1 hr of cardio in the morning 6x a week

and 30 minutes HIIT PW on stermaster or stepper at 145 steps for 30 sec and 55 steps for 1 minute for 30 minutes 6x a week

I will try low carbs during the day and see how it works i have a hard job sometimes… lookin for better one .

908

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this is my pics of this summer 177x88

I have done several cycles over the years,usually 2 cycles per year, one in the winter period and one in the summer period. of course, never like this. I train for more than 8 years.

the cycle was done by my trainer, not the amount of slin me he still said, last year I was 6ui postwo and 2ui postdinner
Shadow shadow changes that you would?
thanks for the replies

909

Hello Shadow Pro, I have one little bit weird question.

My brother had an car accident two and a half months, he broke three lumbar vertebra, and had an operation where he got some titan screws and bolts to hold it all together. He could walk 4 days after an accident, and doctor said he could live like a normal person for about 2 years after an accident.

Before an accident, he workouted for about 2 years and had some decent amount of muscle and strenght. And now, my question is, are there some drugs that could speed up the recovery? I know deca durabolin does some wonders for people with **** up shoulders and bones in general. Could you recommend a cycle for him when he becomes capable for training?

I know it’s kinda of weird question, but you’re knowledge is huge so I decided to ask you :slight_smile: thanks, and sory for my not so good English.

910

[quote]michell wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]michell wrote:
Shadow,

I hope Olympia was great.

And thanks for help me reach my goals. Totally success in my contest but I have to improve a lot of things and learn more how to manage my body. Gyno is so reduced, and I’m gonna start the PCT we talked about. Good job, you are awesome. I have no words to express my gratitude.[/quote]

Glad to hear you did well in your show and I’m happy that I was able to help. Also, good news that your gyno is better.

I have to say that you made exceptional improvements in your legs in such a short period of time. Keep pushing and you’ll keep learning and improving… This is just the start for you!
[/quote]

Thanks for your words. As you say I’m in the beggining and it’s a matter to choose the right direction and the right effort. Meanwhile you can I ask you a bit support from you.

I’m gonna start the PCT and it’s a new and unknowledge phase either training type or nutrition or keep the progress.

1- Because my body type, stay lean was always my weak point, and the goal in keep under 10% during pct and the whole 8 weeks before starting the next prep. I’m gonna keep my nutrition practicaly the same.
Minor changes:

MEAL 1
1.5 Mag10

MEAL 2
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
1 tbsp EVOO

MEAL 3
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
Some esparagus, artichoke

MEAL 4
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
1 tbsp coconut oil

WORKOUT
3-4 plazma (always indigo and micropa before)
1.5 Mag10 30’ pwo

MEAL 5
I’m gonna change 6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
By red meat

2 cheat dinner meals in leg and back days, triying not binge. Sooooooo difficult

  • would you add something else like mag10 , 45 minutes prewo, before bed or in the middle of the night? I’m
    Becoming carbophonic at this point haha. Or would you like to add any change?

  1. Would you do any specific HIIT protocol? So far 2:2 was great but i don’t know if it’s better a new change once I’m lean.

  2. Training at evening, would you take another dose of indigo if I cheat at dinner? Does plazma affect in refill glycogen cause it’s high content of carbs during training? Or it’s better to have the cheat meail some hours apart.

  3. Im gonna recover 8 weeks and Im gonna start a new prep again. As you have seen my evolution and You know me a bit, can you help me to plan the next cycle and choose the right compounds? So I can prepare it in asvance.

  4. If I keep dieting and training my ass off, once I tappered clen and T4 , is there any action to keep leaner knowing my set point tends to get fat easily?

Thanks
[/quote]

Thanks for your words. As you say I’m in the beggining and it’s a matter to choose the right direction and the right effort. Meanwhile you can I ask you a bit support from you.

I’m gonna start the PCT and it’s a new and unknowledge phase either training type or nutrition or keep the progress.

1- Because my body type, stay lean was always my weak point, and the goal in keep under 10% during pct and the whole 8 weeks before starting the next prep. I’m gonna keep my nutrition practicaly the same.
Minor changes:

MEAL 1
1.5 Mag10

MEAL 2
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
1 tbsp EVOO

MEAL 3
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
Some esparagus, artichoke

MEAL 4
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
1 tbsp coconut oil

WORKOUT
3-4 plazma (always indigo and micropa before)
1.5 Mag10 30’ pwo

MEAL 5
I’m gonna change 6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
By red meat

2 cheat dinner meals in leg and back days, triying not binge. Sooooooo difficult

  • would you add something else like mag10 , 45 minutes prewo, before bed or in the middle of the night? I’m
    Becoming carbophonic at this point haha. Or would you like to add any change?

  1. Would you do any specific HIIT protocol? So far 2:2 was great but i don’t know if it’s better a new change once I’m lean.

  2. Training at evening, would you take another dose of indigo if I cheat at dinner? Does plazma affect in refill glycogen cause it’s high content of carbs during training? Or it’s better to have the cheat meail some hours apart.

  3. Im gonna recover 8 weeks and Im gonna start a new prep again. As you have seen my evolution and You know me a bit, can you help me to plan the next cycle and choose the right compounds? So I can prepare it in asvance.

  4. If I keep dieting and training my ass off, once I tappered clen and T4 , is there any action to keep leaner knowing my set point tends to get fat easily?

Thanks

EDIT one more questions. During PCT is a good time to make a detox basic protocol? Do you practise some
IV therapy?

Thanks again

911

[quote]michell wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]michell wrote:
Shadow,

I hope Olympia was great.

And thanks for help me reach my goals. Totally success in my contest but I have to improve a lot of things and learn more how to manage my body. Gyno is so reduced, and I’m gonna start the PCT we talked about. Good job, you are awesome. I have no words to express my gratitude.[/quote]

Glad to hear you did well in your show and I’m happy that I was able to help. Also, good news that your gyno is better.

I have to say that you made exceptional improvements in your legs in such a short period of time. Keep pushing and you’ll keep learning and improving… This is just the start for you!
[/quote]

Thanks for your words. As you say I’m in the beggining and it’s a matter to choose the right direction and the right effort. Meanwhile you can I ask you a bit support from you.

I’m gonna start the PCT and it’s a new and unknowledge phase either training type or nutrition or keep the progress.

1- Because my body type, stay lean was always my weak point, and the goal in keep under 10% during pct and the whole 8 weeks before starting the next prep. I’m gonna keep my nutrition practicaly the same.
Minor changes:

MEAL 1
1.5 Mag10

MEAL 2
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
1 tbsp EVOO

MEAL 3
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
Some esparagus, artichoke

MEAL 4
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
1 tbsp coconut oil

WORKOUT
3-4 plazma (always indigo and micropa before)
1.5 Mag10 30’ pwo

MEAL 5
I’m gonna change 6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
By red meat

2 cheat dinner meals in leg and back days, triying not binge. Sooooooo difficult

  • would you add something else like mag10 , 45 minutes prewo, before bed or in the middle of the night? I’m
    Becoming carbophonic at this point haha. Or would you like to add any change?

  1. Would you do any specific HIIT protocol? So far 2:2 was great but i don’t know if it’s better a new change once I’m lean.

  2. Training at evening, would you take another dose of indigo if I cheat at dinner? Does plazma affect in refill glycogen cause it’s high content of carbs during training? Or it’s better to have the cheat meail some hours apart.

  3. Im gonna recover 8 weeks and Im gonna start a new prep again. As you have seen my evolution and You know me a bit, can you help me to plan the next cycle and choose the right compounds? So I can prepare it in asvance.

  4. If I keep dieting and training my ass off, once I tappered clen and T4 , is there any action to keep leaner knowing my set point tends to get fat easily?

Thanks
[/quote]

Are you starting to prep for a show in 8 weeks? I think it’s too soon, you need to take time to recover and grow instead of jumping into another show.

SLOWLY START TO REVERSE DIET. Start adding more carbs into your diet and lower the fat. For example in meal 4 drop the oil and add a small amount of carbs (ex. 1/2-1 cup rice). Also add carbs to your post workout meal 5. When you’re trying to grow you want more carbs in your system but the trick is to do it slowly. Just add small amount everyweek to make sure your aren’t gaining too much body fat. Do NOT binge, it’s a recipe for disaster. MAG-10 before bed or in the middle of the night is a great idea.

You can keep the cardio protocol the same but only 3-4 days a week… Your purpose here is to grow.
You can take the extra indigo on cheat days too, I have went up to 12 capsules/day. Make sure you have enough time between your Plazma and your cheat meal, the cheat meal should be the last meal of the day.

I would go into an off season if I were you and wait until you make significant improvements before going into stage again. Jumping from show to show isn’t beneficial, you can’t add muscle if you’re dieting year round.

As long as you keep diet and cardio on track you shouldn’t gain a lot of fat. Obviously you won’t stay and shouldn’t stay at a competition bodyfat level but as long as you stay under 10% you’ll be good.

912

[quote]ArSci wrote:
What do you think about using Glucophage after or be4 your cheat meal ??

have you ever used it ??

What dosage would you recommend ??[/quote]

I think if you’re keeping your diet 100% throughout the week you don’t need to use it before a cheat meal just enjoy your food 1 time a week and keep it clean for the rest of the time.

913

[quote]ArSci wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ArSci wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ArSci wrote:
I wanted to loose as much fat as possible and gain muscles, i also wanted to do a show but i do not think i will do it this year i might need a tummy tuck.

I also wanted to ask you what do you think of eating 8oz 96% lean beef and 1 cup of rice ( my coach told me to do it ) after a workout instead of vitargo and protein isolate ???

How do you think i can improve my conditioning ?? i do 1 hr cardio fasted 30 minutes hiit 6x a week i cheat sometimes but its ones every 2 or 3 weeks and my diet look like that :

GH up on wakin 3ius

meal 1
6 oz flounder
1 cup greens

Between meals 1 & 2
leucin 10g
arginin 5g
NAC

Meal 2
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup of quinoa
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms

Between meals 2 and 3

75mcg T3 r we goin to up the dostage or there is no need to do it ?

Meal 3
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup quinoa
greens

Meal 4
6 oz 96% lean red meat
6 oz yams
1/2 cup greens

Meal 5
6 oz grilled chicken
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms

GH 3IUs

Between meals 4 & 5
Leucin 10g
Arginin 5g
NAC 600

Meal 6
6 oz 90% lean red meet
spinach
6 strings of asparagus

I got one more question :slight_smile:

Dont Pro Body Builders cycle all year round ???

I am kinda scared to do PCT, i think its way easier to gain fat during PCT …

I hired a coach he is a pro and he wants me to do 40 days off a year with hcg clomid proviron aromasin and 250mg of test Week

I do not think about kids now but who knows whats gonna be in the future …[/quote]

So let me get this straight… You hired a coach who is also a pro bodybuilder but you don’t trust what he’s saying. Why hire someone and then go ask other people for advice?

Some pro bodybuilders cycle year round… Not all of them.

I’m sure your coach has reasons behind what he tells you to do. There’s more than one way to skin a cat… If you are weary about something he’s telling you to do then ask him why he wants you to do it.

The one thing I would add is Plazma, you are missing all of the periworkout nutrition. It’s very important in ANY diet.[/quote]

Ok I will ask him all i wanna find out :slight_smile: thank you

he also told me to eat additional meal of 8oz 96% lean beef and 1cup of white rice after a workout …

U think its better to dring liquid carbs during and after wo or just after ???[/quote]

I would drop your carbs in meal 2 and lower them significantly in meal 4. Add 2-3 servings of Plazma intraworkout instead of these and you’ll see huge improvement.

Post workout, have 2 servings of MAG-10 and 60-90min later have a solid meal of meat and small portion of carbs (assuming fat loss is your goal)

The Plazma and MAG-10 are superior sources of carbs and protein for peri workout nutrition. The Plazma intra workout is the most important and this is something I would HIGHLY suggest you add here. The rest of your meals can be solid food.
[/quote]

Does it look better ??

Meal 1
6 oz flounder
1 cup greens

Meal 2
8 oz white fish
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms

Between meals 2 and 3

75mcg T3

Meal 3
8 oz white fish
1/2 cup quinoa
greens

Meal 4
6 oz 96% lean red meat
3 oz yams
1/2 cup greens

Meal 5 post workout
6 oz grilled chicken
1 cup white rice
1 cup greens
Digestive enzyms

Meal 6
6 oz 90% lean red meet
spinach
6 strings of asparagus

100g of carbs from plazma intra
Mag10 aftger workout

i also do

1 hr of cardio in the morning 6x a week

and 30 minutes HIIT PW on stermaster or stepper at 145 steps for 30 sec and 55 steps for 1 minute for 30 minutes 6x a week

I will try low carbs during the day and see how it works i have a hard job sometimes… lookin for better one .[/quote]

Yes, this is better.

914

[quote]Narcisus wrote:
this is my pics of this summer 177x88

I have done several cycles over the years,usually 2 cycles per year, one in the winter period and one in the summer period. of course, never like this. I train for more than 8 years.

the cycle was done by my trainer, not the amount of slin me he still said, last year I was 6ui postwo and 2ui postdinner
Shadow shadow changes that you would?
thanks for the replies[/quote]

You look good but I still think it’s very high dosages. I would take the prop and deca out of this cycle and only do the EQ 2-3 days a week (750mg/week)

Insulin would depend on the diet you are going to follow so I can recommend dosages. I would ONLY use it preworkout with Plazma intraworkout.

915

[quote]Lovrix wrote:
Hello Shadow Pro, I have one little bit weird question.

My brother had an car accident two and a half months, he broke three lumbar vertebra, and had an operation where he got some titan screws and bolts to hold it all together. He could walk 4 days after an accident, and doctor said he could live like a normal person for about 2 years after an accident.

Before an accident, he workouted for about 2 years and had some decent amount of muscle and strenght. And now, my question is, are there some drugs that could speed up the recovery? I know deca durabolin does some wonders for people with **** up shoulders and bones in general. Could you recommend a cycle for him when he becomes capable for training?

I know it’s kinda of weird question, but you’re knowledge is huge so I decided to ask you :slight_smile: thanks, and sory for my not so good English.[/quote]

Sorry to hear about the accident… It sounds like some complicated stuff and I’m not a doctor so I don’t want to give bad advice. In general, deca and GH would be your best bet for recovery. Anavar will also help with collagen synthesis to a degree. None of these things are magic and I don’t want to recommend anything that will make him any harm because I don’t know any of his medical history.

Good luck and I wish him a speedy recovery.

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]michell wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]michell wrote:
Shadow,

I hope Olympia was great.

And thanks for help me reach my goals. Totally success in my contest but I have to improve a lot of things and learn more how to manage my body. Gyno is so reduced, and I’m gonna start the PCT we talked about. Good job, you are awesome. I have no words to express my gratitude.[/quote]

Glad to hear you did well in your show and I’m happy that I was able to help. Also, good news that your gyno is better.

I have to say that you made exceptional improvements in your legs in such a short period of time. Keep pushing and you’ll keep learning and improving… This is just the start for you!
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Thanks for your words. As you say I’m in the beggining and it’s a matter to choose the right direction and the right effort. Meanwhile you can I ask you a bit support from you.

I’m gonna start the PCT and it’s a new and unknowledge phase either training type or nutrition or keep the progress.

1- Because my body type, stay lean was always my weak point, and the goal in keep under 10% during pct and the whole 8 weeks before starting the next prep. I’m gonna keep my nutrition practicaly the same.
Minor changes:

MEAL 1
1.5 Mag10

MEAL 2
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
1 tbsp EVOO

MEAL 3
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
Some esparagus, artichoke

MEAL 4
6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
1 tbsp coconut oil

WORKOUT
3-4 plazma (always indigo and micropa before)
1.5 Mag10 30’ pwo

MEAL 5
I’m gonna change 6 oz white fish or chicken breast or turkey breast
By red meat

2 cheat dinner meals in leg and back days, triying not binge. Sooooooo difficult

  • would you add something else like mag10 , 45 minutes prewo, before bed or in the middle of the night? I’m
    Becoming carbophonic at this point haha. Or would you like to add any change?

  1. Would you do any specific HIIT protocol? So far 2:2 was great but i don’t know if it’s better a new change once I’m lean.

  2. Training at evening, would you take another dose of indigo if I cheat at dinner? Does plazma affect in refill glycogen cause it’s high content of carbs during training? Or it’s better to have the cheat meail some hours apart.

  3. Im gonna recover 8 weeks and Im gonna start a new prep again. As you have seen my evolution and You know me a bit, can you help me to plan the next cycle and choose the right compounds? So I can prepare it in asvance.

  4. If I keep dieting and training my ass off, once I tappered clen and T4 , is there any action to keep leaner knowing my set point tends to get fat easily?

Thanks
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Are you starting to prep for a show in 8 weeks? I think it’s too soon, you need to take time to recover and grow instead of jumping into another show.

SLOWLY START TO REVERSE DIET. Start adding more carbs into your diet and lower the fat. For example in meal 4 drop the oil and add a small amount of carbs (ex. 1/2-1 cup rice). Also add carbs to your post workout meal 5. When you’re trying to grow you want more carbs in your system but the trick is to do it slowly. Just add small amount everyweek to make sure your aren’t gaining too much body fat. Do NOT binge, it’s a recipe for disaster. MAG-10 before bed or in the middle of the night is a great idea.

You can keep the cardio protocol the same but only 3-4 days a week… Your purpose here is to grow.
You can take the extra indigo on cheat days too, I have went up to 12 capsules/day. Make sure you have enough time between your Plazma and your cheat meal, the cheat meal should be the last meal of the day.

I would go into an off season if I were you and wait until you make significant improvements before going into stage again. Jumping from show to show isn’t beneficial, you can’t add muscle if you’re dieting year round.

As long as you keep diet and cardio on track you shouldn’t gain a lot of fat. Obviously you won’t stay and shouldn’t stay at a competition bodyfat level but as long as you stay under 10% you’ll be good.
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Good points, thanks.

No I’m not compete again. In 8 weeks I planned to start another cycle, maybe Something look likes Physique, to keep evolving and maturing my muscles meanwhile I have a good condition.

To compete I need more pounds and it’s not real for my next categories. I prefer keep lean and with Physique apparence than chase irreal expectations. Let’s see what brings the future.

Somethin like low dose of tren-a, test-p,win/master and gh. I remember in the past, physique guys if use them smart , can stay in a good condition long time.

And why not your insuline protocol with Plazma and Indigo-3G

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Hello again Shadow got a new quiestion about a PCT suggest about my cycle here is the cycle itself
week
1 Dbol- 20mg EQ- 600 Sustanon 300 - 600
2 Dbol- 30mg EQ- 600 Sustanon 300 - 600
3 Dbol- 40mg EQ- 400 Sustanon 300 - 900
4 Dbol- 40mg EQ- 400 Sustanon 300 - 900
5 Anadrol-50mg Deca-300 Test E - 500 +Nolvadex from here till the end of the cycle
6 Anadrol-50mg Deca-300 Test E - 500
7 Anadrol-50mg Deca-300 Test E - 500
8 Stanozolol -40mg Tri Tren -450 Masteron -300
9 Stanozolol -40mg Tri Tren -450 Masteron -300
10 Stanozolol -30mg Tri Tren -450 Masteron -300
11 Stanozolol -20mg
what would be the best PCT you could suggest to manage to recover from this cycle and manage to keep most of the muscle that was build thanks in advance :slight_smile:

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hi shadow what in your opinion is the best dosing protocol with GH? i.e ED,EOD… Morning,post workout,pre bed etc. will be using it on my upcoming cycle. is my first time with GH. will be used with test,tren and dbol.

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Short & specific question: my last blood draws (some time ago) rountinely indicated high levels of SHBG. I tried some OTC things such as Saw Palmetto, which did nothing to lower the readings. Do you know of anything that will help? I do use anabolics and am open to trying new things, currently nothing too fancy, just Test E as a base, and some EQ or Mast for contest cycles (strength focus, not bodybuilding- have tried Tren once, will try again). Thought I saw someone mention Winstrol to lower SHBG, but had never heard of this?

Thanks in advance!

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I’ve read both of your threads a few times. You’ve mentioned mast p on several occasions and have a question on mast e cuz it’s been mentioned very little. I have test e on hand and wondering if using mast e instead of mast p going to be any significant difference in side effects? I am wondering about test e at 250/wk and mast e at 300/wk. depending I could go the extra cost and go mast p ( 100 eod) with the test e (250/wk). Any advantages or disadvantages with either?