Shadow,
1- are you notice in some subjects in pre contest phase lose
size of the arms? Is a signal something is wrong? Or A genetic factor.
2- when you mentioned past post high doses of letro meanwhile you are on tren, did you mean 2.5 high top amount?
3- should I order Alpha Male for pct? I prefer order in advance…
Thanks!
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
Hey shadow,
Got a real big problem here. M 30 year old unmarried man, ill b married soon. I used stanazol fr 6 weeks in july last year that is 2013. Behavd very foolosh didnt do ny pct whtsoevr. Jst some tamoxifin here n thr. What ws evn worse tht i stoped using test aftr frst two weeks. Again took two weeks of deca with susta in dec 2013. Thn had to quit it inbetween bcoz of sum reason.
Since thn m off aas expecting tht sumhow my hpta will start working again. But its been almost a year, still nothings working. Leave aside morning woods its nt even errecting. What should i do. Ws thinking of new eq cycle bt have totaly dropped it fr d tym being. Will pct be of ny help now. I dont evn knw wht blood tests i gotta get done. Plz help[/quote]
You probably shut yourself down because of what you did. I would go and ask for a blood test that includes all testosterone levels and prolactin levels. If your levels are low (which I’m assuming they are) you’ll be prescribed HCG and/or HRT which will help reverse the problem.
In general, pct can help right now but I would suggest to go to the doctor and tell him all of the symptoms you just told me. If you want to go ahead and do it yourself you can use HCG, clomid and nolva, dosages would depend on how low your test levels are. You could start with something like…
1000iu of HCG eod (6 weeks)
Clomid for 4 weeks (100/100/50/50)
Nolvadex 5 weeks (40/40/40/20/20)
[/quote]
Thnx fr d reply shadow,
I’ll get my tests done…
I’ll these b enough or should i add sum more into it…
This looks good, but also add a regular blood count test to this.
[/quote]
Alrite mate,
'll get dem done soon n post d results soon…
[/quote]
Hey shadow got my test results:
TEST NAME:VALUE:REFERENCE RANGE
Total test:512:241-827
Free test:15.66:4.25-30.37
Lh:6.57:1.5-9.3
Fsh:3.14:1.4-18.1
Prolactin:4.3:2.1-17.7
E2:43.3:0-39.8
Dhea-s:340.6:160-449
Tsh:2.55:0.30-5.5
Haemoglobin:14.4:13-18
Red cell count:4.24:4.04-6.13
So wht do u think i shld do nw
[/quote]
Did you start the pct I gave you before? And what else are taking right now?
The blood test looks good, everything is in range.
[/quote]
No, i didnt start d pct as yet, i thought it wld b wise to c d results frsts jst to make sure hw much of wht shld i take n fr hw long. m going all natural rite nw.
Wht i have understood frm dese tests is tht my e2 level is a bit high, which might b trigering my negative feedback loop of hpta n hence low levels of fsh n lh n furthermore testosterone…
So dnt u think it ill b better to get off this extra estrogen instead of going fr stuff like hcg n tamoxi n clomid which also are gonna increase my e2 levels eventually, unless i use some sorta AI…unfortunately m nt evn gettng my hands on to ny AI…
Wht i do’ve is sum GH though…cn tht b of ny help here…i jst’ve 60-70 iu…
Nd also, if u do agree wid getting rid of tht extra e2 thing, do u think supplements like Dim nd calcium d glucarate does help??
Sorry i m asking a lot without evn knowing much…bt m jst curious…[/quote]
Your e2 levels are a bit high, but nothing to be too worried about. Those supplements can help a bit, it wont do anything major but you can give it a try.
Save your GH for whenever you start a cycle.
[quote]alvertos wrote:
Mr.o contest is just 20 days away!
have you changed any of your predictions that you made earlier when i asked you the same question,now that you have seen all the competitors? do you see ramy as a future winner in 2 or 3 years?[/quote]
No I didn’t change my predictions. As for Ramy, it depends if he’s ever able to nail his condition. Another issue is that he’s not American and doesn’t speak fluent English if he’s going to be the ambassador for the sport he’ll have to learn but it can be done in a few years.
[quote]Mikehr wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Westside123 wrote:
Hi Shadow,
Thanks a lot for doing this. Basically I have had gyno since puberty but didnt know it so my first cycle 2 years ago, aggrivated it and the worst ever was my second cycle of test and tren. Since then its a lot less noticeable and the lumps are between the size of a pea and small marble, and as long as my nips aren’t puffy. The problem is in order to keep them under control I have to use torem, letro and caber if using tren. Its really driving me nuts, I competed in my first Physique show in july and they looked fine cause I came off test I was on 525mast, 2.5mg letro and 60mg of torem for the show.
Current cycle is 50mg prop eod, 100mg tren eod, 60mcg t3, but even at 1.25mg letro ed , 60mg torem ed, and 0.5 mg caber eod they are still puffy, they dont hurt they just look shitty. I dont wanna always be running letro at 2.5mg becuase it crushes my sex drive and hinders gains apparently.
Do you think I should drop the torem and switch to nolva?
Should I up the caber? I am kinda at a loss here and up for opinions. Surgery is out of the question because in Canada healthcare wont cover it cause of the gear and I cant afford it[/quote]
I would definitely switch the torem to nolvadex. Increasing the caber would be an option only of the gyno is related to progesterone. Unfortunately, if you are prone to gyno and already have preexisting symptoms then your only option is to stay on high doses of letro the whole time you’re on or do the surgery. Once the symptoms are very bad, your best option is the surgery.
[/quote]
Hey thanks for the reply I will give that a shot and let you know, I have heard that serms reduce the effectivness of letro or vice versa? Your thoughts? And its not bad as long as my nips are hard, only when they are puffy is it noticeable. Tren seems to be notorious for this! [/quote]
If you decide to use the letro you don’t need to use the nolvadex with it, there’s no need. From what you’ve described to me I’m assuming surgery is your next best option.
[quote]bb1rd wrote:
Hi Shadow,
First off, great thread and learned a lot from your advice so far, appreciate you giving your time.
My background is I’m in my late 20’s, I did a cycle around 8 years ago but nothing since, that was your basic 500g test eth with dbol.
I’m currently around 210-215lbs and probably 15 % BF - BF tends drops when the rugby season kicks off seriously in the next couple of months.
I’d really appreciate your advice on a cycle, the aim of which would be to take me closer to around 225/230. obviously this needs to be as much lean muscle as possible, given the athletic demands of rugby I don’t need mass which has no functional purpose. I’m considering a cycle seriously as I have been training a number of years and once the rugby season kicks off recovery and maintenance is the key focus, gaining mass then becomes really hard. However because of a shoulder op I have missed the off season and the opportunity to really build mass. I won’t be playing rugby games for another couple of months, though I will be doing fitness training alongside weight training.
I’m looking for cycle which is something which is relatively easier on the joints, and want to avoid side effects that would make it difficult on fitness training etc. I’d therefore be wanting to keep the doses relatively low to avoid sides and as I’m relatively inexperienced I expect to react better to lower doses.
I have been recommended the below as an example cycle - what would your thoughts be on this? I’m not convinced on the deca and the long detection time is a concern, very unlikely that I’d be tested, but still makes me nervous - however understand it can be beneficial for the joints.
week 1-3 100mg mon/wed/fri Test P
week 1-3 500 sustanon
week 1-6 4/600mg deca
week 7-10 100mg EOD test p
week 7-10 50mg ED winstrol
Thanks in advance…[/quote]
I don’t like the cycle suggestion, it’s all over the place. No need to use two types of test in 10 weeks. If you are thinking about passing a drug test, I wouldn’t even consider deca because I’ve heard people getting caught up to a year after.
Also, no reason to stop the test in the middle of the cycle. This would be a more reliable and simple way to do a 10 week cycle.
Week 1-10
test-p @ 100mg EOD
Eq @ 400-600mg/week (better appetite… Decent mass gains)
Week 1-6
Oral winstrol or tbol 50mg Everyday
Nolvadex 10-20mg everyday
HCG @ 250iu 2x/week.
This will give you good mass gains with moderate water retention.
[quote]michell wrote:
Shadow,
1- are you notice in some subjects in pre contest phase lose
size of the arms? Is a signal something is wrong? Or A genetic factor.
2- when you mentioned past post high doses of letro meanwhile you are on tren, did you mean 2.5 high top amount?
3- should I order Alpha Male for pct? I prefer order in advance…
Thanks!
[/quote]
No, not really. If it’s a weaker body part then obviously it will look smaller when dieting. You just don’t have enough mass on your arms, it’s something you’ll have to work on.
I wouldn’t go over 2.5mg
YES! Absolutely, it’s a staple ingredient in my PCT. It’s extremely effective.
Hi Shadow, I am not competitive, just your average guy in the gym, please don?t flame?..it?s not that I am afraid of needles it?s just that right now money is a bit tight but at the same time I want to experiment a little, however I want to run this past you.
I want to do a short 3 week dbol-only course, starting at 20mg and bumping it by 10 mg every second day until I get to 50 mg a day and then coast there for a week, then taper down in the same fashion until I am off?.. The idea is to be on for 3 weeks and stay off for 3 weeks, then repeat the process.
PCT and anti-e required for something like this?
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]alvertos wrote:
Mr.o contest is just 20 days away!
have you changed any of your predictions that you made earlier when i asked you the same question,now that you have seen all the competitors? do you see ramy as a future winner in 2 or 3 years?[/quote]
No I didn’t change my predictions. As for Ramy, it depends if he’s ever able to nail his condition. Another issue is that he’s not American and doesn’t speak fluent English if he’s going to be the ambassador for the sport he’ll have to learn but it can be done in a few years.
[/quote]
well you are right about that,speaking fluent english opens a lot of doors when you come from europe,asia or other places outside US.Have you seen the recent guest posing from dexter?i know it all comes down to how you look friday/saturday night but who would be the dark horse this year?
any guy under the radar that can make the surprise and place high?
thank you for your insight and good luck to your next contest…it might be the olympia?no need to confirm that just kidding!
thanks again man.
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]michell wrote:
Shadow,
1- are you notice in some subjects in pre contest phase lose
size of the arms? Is a signal something is wrong? Or A genetic factor.
2- when you mentioned past post high doses of letro meanwhile you are on tren, did you mean 2.5 high top amount?
3- should I order Alpha Male for pct? I prefer order in advance…
Thanks!
[/quote]
No, not really. If it’s a weaker body part then obviously it will look smaller when dieting. You just don’t have enough mass on your arms, it’s something you’ll have to work on.
I wouldn’t go over 2.5mg
YES! Absolutely, it’s a staple ingredient in my PCT. It’s extremely effective.[/quote]
Ha! you got me. I have to improve my arms. Broad question ask about, here I guess…
Anyway Shadow, 4 weeks out.
I’m 6 days straight only with Plazma intra. Not high carb meal yet.
What a mess gyno, if not would be great experience in my second preparation of my life.
As far as my nutrition:
7:00
Wake up. GH, clen, T4
8:00
1.5 scoops of MAG-10
8:40
HIIT 8 times 2:2
10:30
40 grams Whey CFM
1 tbsp coconut oil
13:00
1st Dose of Plazma
13:20
Training
15:00
1.5 scoops MAG-10
15:30
6oz red meat
17:30
6oz white fish
1 tbsp EVOO
20:00
6 oz turkey or chicken
1 - Do you think I have covered the first half of the day? I mean if HIIT is so close to the training. I even though to increase 4 scoops Plazma every day, because my high volume type of training. There is some point I can’t stop training and I need pump and pump.
I’m gonna keep everything as I’m doing. I have no experience about how to make assessments for my own. Let’s see what happen until 1-2 weeks out.
2 - Gyno doesnÃ???Ã??Ã?´t go down. I’m gonna give a try caber if in 2 days doesn’t improve. Cause I’m afraid the tissue doesn’t decrease as it’s something new for me and it’s difficult how to face the problem.
BTW, my legs after your advice
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
Hey shadow,
Got a real big problem here. M 30 year old unmarried man, ill b married soon. I used stanazol fr 6 weeks in july last year that is 2013. Behavd very foolosh didnt do ny pct whtsoevr. Jst some tamoxifin here n thr. What ws evn worse tht i stoped using test aftr frst two weeks. Again took two weeks of deca with susta in dec 2013. Thn had to quit it inbetween bcoz of sum reason.
Since thn m off aas expecting tht sumhow my hpta will start working again. But its been almost a year, still nothings working. Leave aside morning woods its nt even errecting. What should i do. Ws thinking of new eq cycle bt have totaly dropped it fr d tym being. Will pct be of ny help now. I dont evn knw wht blood tests i gotta get done. Plz help[/quote]
You probably shut yourself down because of what you did. I would go and ask for a blood test that includes all testosterone levels and prolactin levels. If your levels are low (which I’m assuming they are) you’ll be prescribed HCG and/or HRT which will help reverse the problem.
In general, pct can help right now but I would suggest to go to the doctor and tell him all of the symptoms you just told me. If you want to go ahead and do it yourself you can use HCG, clomid and nolva, dosages would depend on how low your test levels are. You could start with something like…
1000iu of HCG eod (6 weeks)
Clomid for 4 weeks (100/100/50/50)
Nolvadex 5 weeks (40/40/40/20/20)
[/quote]
Thnx fr d reply shadow,
I’ll get my tests done…
I’ll these b enough or should i add sum more into it…
This looks good, but also add a regular blood count test to this.
[/quote]
Alrite mate,
'll get dem done soon n post d results soon…
[/quote]
Hey shadow got my test results:
TEST NAME:VALUE:REFERENCE RANGE
Total test:512:241-827
Free test:15.66:4.25-30.37
Lh:6.57:1.5-9.3
Fsh:3.14:1.4-18.1
Prolactin:4.3:2.1-17.7
E2:43.3:0-39.8
Dhea-s:340.6:160-449
Tsh:2.55:0.30-5.5
Haemoglobin:14.4:13-18
Red cell count:4.24:4.04-6.13
So wht do u think i shld do nw
[/quote]
Did you start the pct I gave you before? And what else are taking right now?
The blood test looks good, everything is in range.
[/quote]
No, i didnt start d pct as yet, i thought it wld b wise to c d results frsts jst to make sure hw much of wht shld i take n fr hw long. m going all natural rite nw.
Wht i have understood frm dese tests is tht my e2 level is a bit high, which might b trigering my negative feedback loop of hpta n hence low levels of fsh n lh n furthermore testosterone…
So dnt u think it ill b better to get off this extra estrogen instead of going fr stuff like hcg n tamoxi n clomid which also are gonna increase my e2 levels eventually, unless i use some sorta AI…unfortunately m nt evn gettng my hands on to ny AI…
Wht i do’ve is sum GH though…cn tht b of ny help here…i jst’ve 60-70 iu…
Nd also, if u do agree wid getting rid of tht extra e2 thing, do u think supplements like Dim nd calcium d glucarate does help??
Sorry i m asking a lot without evn knowing much…bt m jst curious…[/quote]
Your e2 levels are a bit high, but nothing to be too worried about. Those supplements can help a bit, it wont do anything major but you can give it a try.
Save your GH for whenever you start a cycle.
[/quote]
Thnx buddy…
I knw its gettng a bit too repetitive, bt its my last que…do u think my blood stats r gud enough to go fr anothr cycle rite nw or u think i shld do d pct rite nw n den wait fr a while b4 startng oder cycle…
hi shadow. quick question. which ester is best suited to upcoming cycle. short or long ester test. having done both before in seperate cycles they both have there pros and cons.
this cycle will be a bulking cycle I’ll be running tren ace in the cycle at 100mg ed so if i chose to use prop the pinning wouldn’t be a problem anyway.
originally i thought prop would be better suited as im already running the tren ace both will build up fast and kick in together. an there is no waiting around for longer esters to kick in.
i understand test is test just want you views on which to choose it was either
*test prop 100mg ed 1-10
*tren ace 100mg ed 1-8
*dbol 50-60mg ed 1-6
*test 400. 800mg ew 1-12/14
*tren ace 100mg ed start 2-3weeks after the test continue for 8weeks
*dbol 50-60mg ed
one thing i prefer over short esters is in and out quicker and pct quicker.
thanks for your time.
[quote]Warner wrote:
Hi Shadow, I am not competitive, just your average guy in the gym, please don?t flame?..it?s not that I am afraid of needles it?s just that right now money is a bit tight but at the same time I want to experiment a little, however I want to run this past you.
I want to do a short 3 week dbol-only course, starting at 20mg and bumping it by 10 mg every second day until I get to 50 mg a day and then coast there for a week, then taper down in the same fashion until I am off?.. The idea is to be on for 3 weeks and stay off for 3 weeks, then repeat the process.
PCT and anti-e required for something like this?
[/quote]
Can you post a current picture? What is your goal with this cycle?
Normally I wouldn’t recommend to do an oral cycle for less than 6 weeks. The pct will depend on how sensitive you are. Is this your first cycle or have you done others before? I need some more info to help you. Thanks.
[quote]alvertos wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]alvertos wrote:
Mr.o contest is just 20 days away!
have you changed any of your predictions that you made earlier when i asked you the same question,now that you have seen all the competitors? do you see ramy as a future winner in 2 or 3 years?[/quote]
No I didn’t change my predictions. As for Ramy, it depends if he’s ever able to nail his condition. Another issue is that he’s not American and doesn’t speak fluent English if he’s going to be the ambassador for the sport he’ll have to learn but it can be done in a few years.
[/quote]
well you are right about that,speaking fluent english opens a lot of doors when you come from europe,asia or other places outside US.Have you seen the recent guest posing from dexter?i know it all comes down to how you look friday/saturday night but who would be the dark horse this year?
any guy under the radar that can make the surprise and place high?
thank you for your insight and good luck to your next contest…it might be the olympia?no need to confirm that just kidding!
thanks again man.[/quote]
Dexter is always a threat for top 5 and possibly top 3. I saw the video and he looks insane, to think you can add so much size at his age! Delarosa and Morel are my dark horse picks for top 10.
[quote]michell wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]michell wrote:
Shadow,
1- are you notice in some subjects in pre contest phase lose
size of the arms? Is a signal something is wrong? Or A genetic factor.
2- when you mentioned past post high doses of letro meanwhile you are on tren, did you mean 2.5 high top amount?
3- should I order Alpha Male for pct? I prefer order in advance…
Thanks!
[/quote]
No, not really. If it’s a weaker body part then obviously it will look smaller when dieting. You just don’t have enough mass on your arms, it’s something you’ll have to work on.
I wouldn’t go over 2.5mg
YES! Absolutely, it’s a staple ingredient in my PCT. It’s extremely effective.[/quote]
Ha! you got me. I have to improve my arms. Broad question ask about, here I guess…
Anyway Shadow, 4 weeks out.
I’m 6 days straight only with Plazma intra. Not high carb meal yet.
What a mess gyno, if not would be great experience in my second preparation of my life.
As far as my nutrition:
7:00
Wake up. GH, clen, T4
8:00
1.5 scoops of MAG-10
8:40
HIIT 8 times 2:2
10:30
40 grams Whey CFM
1 tbsp coconut oil
13:00
1st Dose of Plazma
13:20
Training
15:00
1.5 scoops MAG-10
15:30
6oz red meat
17:30
6oz white fish
1 tbsp EVOO
20:00
6 oz turkey or chicken
1 - Do you think I have covered the first half of the day? I mean if HIIT is so close to the training. I even though to increase 4 scoops Plazma every day, because my high volume type of training. There is some point I can’t stop training and I need pump and pump.
I’m gonna keep everything as I’m doing. I have no experience about how to make assessments for my own. Let’s see what happen until 1-2 weeks out.
2 - Gyno doesnÃ???Ã???Ã??Ã?´t go down. I’m gonna give a try caber if in 2 days doesn’t improve. Cause I’m afraid the tissue doesn’t decrease as it’s something new for me and it’s difficult how to face the problem.
BTW, my legs after your advice
[/quote]
First of all, your legs look much leaner and more detailed since the last set of pics. Keep pushing!
I think you can go up to 2-3 servings of Plazma. Try 3 on your heavy/hard days and 2 on the others.
Try to move your training 30-40min later and you’ll have enough time to recover after the cardio. You’re not supposed to feel good at this point. You need to keep losing fat!
It’s concerning that the letro doesn’t help… Although it takes time for it to stabilize so stay on it. Give the letro another week to work before deciding on the caber. If/when you start the caber you can do something like .5mg every 3rd day.
At 4 weeks out I wouldn’t worry about anything else, just concentrate on getting lean and preparing for the show… Have a good pct and recovery phase afterwards and you’ll be ok!
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
Hey shadow,
Got a real big problem here. M 30 year old unmarried man, ill b married soon. I used stanazol fr 6 weeks in july last year that is 2013. Behavd very foolosh didnt do ny pct whtsoevr. Jst some tamoxifin here n thr. What ws evn worse tht i stoped using test aftr frst two weeks. Again took two weeks of deca with susta in dec 2013. Thn had to quit it inbetween bcoz of sum reason.
Since thn m off aas expecting tht sumhow my hpta will start working again. But its been almost a year, still nothings working. Leave aside morning woods its nt even errecting. What should i do. Ws thinking of new eq cycle bt have totaly dropped it fr d tym being. Will pct be of ny help now. I dont evn knw wht blood tests i gotta get done. Plz help[/quote]
You probably shut yourself down because of what you did. I would go and ask for a blood test that includes all testosterone levels and prolactin levels. If your levels are low (which I’m assuming they are) you’ll be prescribed HCG and/or HRT which will help reverse the problem.
In general, pct can help right now but I would suggest to go to the doctor and tell him all of the symptoms you just told me. If you want to go ahead and do it yourself you can use HCG, clomid and nolva, dosages would depend on how low your test levels are. You could start with something like…
1000iu of HCG eod (6 weeks)
Clomid for 4 weeks (100/100/50/50)
Nolvadex 5 weeks (40/40/40/20/20)
[/quote]
Thnx fr d reply shadow,
I’ll get my tests done…
I’ll these b enough or should i add sum more into it…
This looks good, but also add a regular blood count test to this.
[/quote]
Alrite mate,
'll get dem done soon n post d results soon…
[/quote]
Hey shadow got my test results:
TEST NAME:VALUE:REFERENCE RANGE
Total test:512:241-827
Free test:15.66:4.25-30.37
Lh:6.57:1.5-9.3
Fsh:3.14:1.4-18.1
Prolactin:4.3:2.1-17.7
E2:43.3:0-39.8
Dhea-s:340.6:160-449
Tsh:2.55:0.30-5.5
Haemoglobin:14.4:13-18
Red cell count:4.24:4.04-6.13
So wht do u think i shld do nw
[/quote]
Did you start the pct I gave you before? And what else are taking right now?
The blood test looks good, everything is in range.
[/quote]
No, i didnt start d pct as yet, i thought it wld b wise to c d results frsts jst to make sure hw much of wht shld i take n fr hw long. m going all natural rite nw.
Wht i have understood frm dese tests is tht my e2 level is a bit high, which might b trigering my negative feedback loop of hpta n hence low levels of fsh n lh n furthermore testosterone…
So dnt u think it ill b better to get off this extra estrogen instead of going fr stuff like hcg n tamoxi n clomid which also are gonna increase my e2 levels eventually, unless i use some sorta AI…unfortunately m nt evn gettng my hands on to ny AI…
Wht i do’ve is sum GH though…cn tht b of ny help here…i jst’ve 60-70 iu…
Nd also, if u do agree wid getting rid of tht extra e2 thing, do u think supplements like Dim nd calcium d glucarate does help??
Sorry i m asking a lot without evn knowing much…bt m jst curious…[/quote]
Your e2 levels are a bit high, but nothing to be too worried about. Those supplements can help a bit, it wont do anything major but you can give it a try.
Save your GH for whenever you start a cycle.
[/quote]
Thnx buddy…
I knw its gettng a bit too repetitive, bt its my last que…do u think my blood stats r gud enough to go fr anothr cycle rite nw or u think i shld do d pct rite nw n den wait fr a while b4 startng oder cycle…
[/quote]
Make sure your blood tests are all in range before considering another cycle. I don’t see a need to do a pct right now because your test levels are in a normal range.
[quote]ginston wrote:
hi shadow. quick question. which ester is best suited to upcoming cycle. short or long ester test. having done both before in seperate cycles they both have there pros and cons.
this cycle will be a bulking cycle I’ll be running tren ace in the cycle at 100mg ed so if i chose to use prop the pinning wouldn’t be a problem anyway.
originally i thought prop would be better suited as im already running the tren ace both will build up fast and kick in together. an there is no waiting around for longer esters to kick in.
i understand test is test just want you views on which to choose it was either
*test prop 100mg ed 1-10
*tren ace 100mg ed 1-8
*dbol 50-60mg ed 1-6
*test 400. 800mg ew 1-12/14
*tren ace 100mg ed start 2-3weeks after the test continue for 8weeks
*dbol 50-60mg ed
one thing i prefer over short esters is in and out quicker and pct quicker.
thanks for your time.[/quote]
I would definitely go with option #1 and don’t forget your nolva and HCG during the cycle!
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]steelk wrote:
Hi Shadow,
First of all many thanks for doing this. It’s heavily appreciated.
This probably is my first post here after being a long time reader (~8 years).
A bit of background.
I am now training for 8 years. I gained 40 lbs during these years (160-200 at 5’11). My PRs at 200 lbs are
SQ - 390
BP - 270
DL - 450
For the last 2-3 years I think I am stuck at 200 with a bf% of ~12-14. I did a basic cycle 2 years ago in an attempt to go beyond 200. I actually started at 195, went to 205 while on cycle and then gradually went back to 200. I know diet is king and I really thought I was eating a lot but apparently it wasn’t enough.
The cycle consisted of
1-12 test E 500mg
HCG blast at the end
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50
After that cycle I trained for strength primarily, reaching the above mentioned PRs.
I now started a second cycle with the goal of breaking the 200-205 “barrier” but with conservative dosages in mind and focusing on training and eating hard. I didn’t quite liked the test E due to the slow building up / clearance time so I thought I should give test prop a chance. My current cycle is as follows (currently being in week 1)
1-10 test prop 150mg eod
1-10 hcg 250iu 2x/week
3-8 dbol 30mg ed
1-10 nolva 10mg ed until adding dbol, then 20 mg ed
pct - nolva 20/20/10/10
Considerations:
I have a couple of questions:
During the first cycle I decided to start just with the test to see whether I am gyno prone. After a few weeks of building up I indeed started to have signs of it and added nolva 20mg ed. With this cycle, after seeing your recommendations for much heavier cycles than mine to go with nolva 10-20 ed, I thought starting at 10 and up the dosage to 20 once dbol is added OR I start getting signs of gyno again. Is this OK or should I immediately up it to 20 just to be sure?
What PCT would you recommend given this current cycle? I recovered a bit hard after the first cycle, probably due to not using HCG on cycle.
Once mixed with bac water how long can I use HCG? I keep reading 1 month. Is this correct?
Thanks again. [/quote]
Start with 10 and go up to 20mg if needed.
For your pct…
Clomid @50mg for 4 weeks.
Nolvadex 40/40/40/20/20.
HCG @ 500iu EOD (4weeks)
One month is fine.
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Hi Shadow,
Is there any point in tapering down the prop in this cycle or just go cold and run the PCT you advised? I am in the final two weeks of it.
1-10 test prop 150mg eod
1-10 hcg 250iu 2x/week
3-8 dbol 30mg ed
1-10 nolva 20mg ed
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Mikehr wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Westside123 wrote:
Hi Shadow,
Thanks a lot for doing this. Basically I have had gyno since puberty but didnt know it so my first cycle 2 years ago, aggrivated it and the worst ever was my second cycle of test and tren. Since then its a lot less noticeable and the lumps are between the size of a pea and small marble, and as long as my nips aren’t puffy. The problem is in order to keep them under control I have to use torem, letro and caber if using tren. Its really driving me nuts, I competed in my first Physique show in july and they looked fine cause I came off test I was on 525mast, 2.5mg letro and 60mg of torem for the show.
Current cycle is 50mg prop eod, 100mg tren eod, 60mcg t3, but even at 1.25mg letro ed , 60mg torem ed, and 0.5 mg caber eod they are still puffy, they dont hurt they just look shitty. I dont wanna always be running letro at 2.5mg becuase it crushes my sex drive and hinders gains apparently.
Do you think I should drop the torem and switch to nolva?
Should I up the caber? I am kinda at a loss here and up for opinions. Surgery is out of the question because in Canada healthcare wont cover it cause of the gear and I cant afford it[/quote]
I would definitely switch the torem to nolvadex. Increasing the caber would be an option only of the gyno is related to progesterone. Unfortunately, if you are prone to gyno and already have preexisting symptoms then your only option is to stay on high doses of letro the whole time you’re on or do the surgery. Once the symptoms are very bad, your best option is the surgery.
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Hey thanks for the reply I will give that a shot and let you know, I have heard that serms reduce the effectivness of letro or vice versa? Your thoughts? And its not bad as long as my nips are hard, only when they are puffy is it noticeable. Tren seems to be notorious for this! [/quote]
If you decide to use the letro you don’t need to use the nolvadex with it, there’s no need. From what you’ve described to me I’m assuming surgery is your next best option.[/quote]
Alright I dont think its bad enough to warrant surgery, you can’t see the lumps at all its just they get puffy with tren basically. I am at 1.25 letro now and 60mg torem so ill up the letro and drop the torem and see how it goes.
Hey shadow another question for you as well, do you monitor salt much throughout your prep? I haven’t been adding any salt to my meals just natural spices, since I tend to hold quite a bit of water sub q on gear and moderate salt intake. Is there anything wrong with a low salt diet for the prep?
