Shadow Pro Q&A 2.0

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Bling82 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

There’s a lot smarter ways to cut. 2 hours a day for most people is just wayyyy too much.
Only having carbs in the morning isn’t a good idea at all, have you read any of my posts about the importance of peri-workout nutrition?

Increasing t3 isn’t a magic fix, it all depends on your diet and training. Your 2 hours of cardio most certainly isn’t helping with the striations, if anything you’ll be losing muscle from this.

How many weeks out are you? Can you post a current picture?
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Yes i read it, but i have a coach who dosent belive in it. I know.

Im about 3 weeks out. I have a lot of water in me. Especially in my upperbody. Your thourgts?
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Sorry to break it to you, but if this is how you look from doing 2 hours of cardio a day and carbs only at breakfast. You should fire your coach! You can be so much better than this and it’s a shame because you obviously know how to put in the work.

As for specifics, your legs looks very flat and lacking detail (due to the cardio). All over you are soft and the muscles are not “popping” due to the cardio and wrong timing of carbs. Chest and shoulders need a lot more detail especially at 3 weeks out. You should be close to stage ready at this point.

On top of this, you still have some bodyfat to lose (assuming you’re doing a bodybuilding show)

Your body is probably in some kind of defense mechanism because of all of the cardio and under eating, this is why the body will struggle to hold on to the last few pounds of fat. It’s hard for me to give advise because you will need to change everything from diet, training and cardio.

My best advise is to hire a reputable bodybuilding coach, just do your research. Don’t go after any Internet gurus who are just good at marketing. Make sure they have a good track record with clients and themselves… If they can’t get themselves in shape then they can’t be relied on to bring you in shape.
From my experience, most people who are not high national level or pros don’t have enough personal experience and are usually just Internet gurus who can’t produce the results they promise.
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Thanks for your advice. Its my first competition, so i just did what i was adviced. Can i do anything these last 3 weeks? Im doing the show, now that i put all of that effort in it. And yeah, to get the experience.

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[quote]Pilosox wrote:
sorry the above image was from the past olympia. here it is my status right now. 3 kg heavier.

Current diet:

400gr prot
100-200gr carbs (pre and intra workout)
50-70gr fats

my competition is in 24 hours from now. yesterday i did a carb deload, consumed only 50 gr carbs. today im loading and its 5 pm and ive already eaten 130 gr carbs, from rice, quinoa, and a banana. no insulin yet. have dyazide on hand.

current AAS:
Insulin pre workout 5-10 ui
test p 100MG EOD (6 weeeks in)
MAST P 100MG EOD (6 weeks in)
TREN E (not able to get tren A) 200mg WEEK ( 6 weeks in)
ANAVAR 20 MG ED (2 weeks in)
HALO 15MG ED (2 weeks in)
PROVIRON 75mg ED (2 weeks in)
ADEX 0.5 -0.75 ED ( 6 weeks in)

Oral are only 2 weeks in because if i win my category tomorrow, i will compete at the south american bodybuilding championship, so i timed them 4 weeks till the big event. (bugdet is what restricts the weeks of usage)

yesterday did 20mg DBOL before bed,
today 10 mg in the morning. i feel it helps me fill out, and i up the adex to .75 - 1 mg ED.

please advice, what would you do, now that i have only 24 hours left, to fill the muscles and dry out. thank you

hopefully you see this post soon. it was my mistake not uploading pictures before. sorry.[/quote]

You can experiment if you want but I’m warning you that it can blow up in your face… You can end up looking like a water buffalo on stage and ruin all of your hard work just for the sake of being a bit more full. This is not necessarily needed for a men’s physique show. They usually go with a hard lean and dry look rather than a fuller look like bodybuilding.

I wouldn’t use dbol in these days at all because it can make you hold water and not in a good way.

If you want to try it, do it very conservatively… 5iu every other meal with 60-80g of carbs (50g will only cover the insulin so you want a bit more to make you look fuller) check yourself in the mirror every hour or have someone you trust to look at you.

If I were in your shoes right now, I wouldn’t use insulin… I would just eat more carbs and load very traditionally. About 30-50g of carbs every meal and very small amount of protein (~20g/meal)

Take 1/2 diazide (25mg) before you go to sleep and depending how you look in the morning you can eat a high carb meal if your flat… Moderate carb meal if your perfect… Low carb meal if you’re holding water. If you’re holding water take another 1/4 diazide with the first meal.

The call is in your hands… It’s up to you.

One more thing, don’t use any long esters 2 weeks before any show or inject anything 5-7days before the show. Also, consider a higher amount of anti estrogens for a harder and drier look.

Keep me posted with what you decided and how the show goes. Good luck!

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[quote]Bling82 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Bling82 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

There’s a lot smarter ways to cut. 2 hours a day for most people is just wayyyy too much.
Only having carbs in the morning isn’t a good idea at all, have you read any of my posts about the importance of peri-workout nutrition?

Increasing t3 isn’t a magic fix, it all depends on your diet and training. Your 2 hours of cardio most certainly isn’t helping with the striations, if anything you’ll be losing muscle from this.

How many weeks out are you? Can you post a current picture?
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Yes i read it, but i have a coach who dosent belive in it. I know.

Im about 3 weeks out. I have a lot of water in me. Especially in my upperbody. Your thourgts?
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Sorry to break it to you, but if this is how you look from doing 2 hours of cardio a day and carbs only at breakfast. You should fire your coach! You can be so much better than this and it’s a shame because you obviously know how to put in the work.

As for specifics, your legs looks very flat and lacking detail (due to the cardio). All over you are soft and the muscles are not “popping” due to the cardio and wrong timing of carbs. Chest and shoulders need a lot more detail especially at 3 weeks out. You should be close to stage ready at this point.

On top of this, you still have some bodyfat to lose (assuming you’re doing a bodybuilding show)

Your body is probably in some kind of defense mechanism because of all of the cardio and under eating, this is why the body will struggle to hold on to the last few pounds of fat. It’s hard for me to give advise because you will need to change everything from diet, training and cardio.

My best advise is to hire a reputable bodybuilding coach, just do your research. Don’t go after any Internet gurus who are just good at marketing. Make sure they have a good track record with clients and themselves… If they can’t get themselves in shape then they can’t be relied on to bring you in shape.
From my experience, most people who are not high national level or pros don’t have enough personal experience and are usually just Internet gurus who can’t produce the results they promise.
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Thanks for your advice. Its my first competition, so i just did what i was adviced. Can i do anything these last 3 weeks? Im doing the show, now that i put all of that effort in it. And yeah, to get the experience. [/quote]

Can you post your cycle and diet again. I’ll see what kind of minor changes I can make without fucking it up. Keep in mind it’s hard to make any significant changes in the last 3 weeks.

First of all, start training more intensely and lower the cardio by at least 1/2. Have your carbs intraworkout from Plazma and not all in the morning.

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Bling82 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Bling82 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

There’s a lot smarter ways to cut. 2 hours a day for most people is just wayyyy too much.
Only having carbs in the morning isn’t a good idea at all, have you read any of my posts about the importance of peri-workout nutrition?

Increasing t3 isn’t a magic fix, it all depends on your diet and training. Your 2 hours of cardio most certainly isn’t helping with the striations, if anything you’ll be losing muscle from this.

How many weeks out are you? Can you post a current picture?
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Yes i read it, but i have a coach who dosent belive in it. I know.

Im about 3 weeks out. I have a lot of water in me. Especially in my upperbody. Your thourgts?
[/quote]

Sorry to break it to you, but if this is how you look from doing 2 hours of cardio a day and carbs only at breakfast. You should fire your coach! You can be so much better than this and it’s a shame because you obviously know how to put in the work.

As for specifics, your legs looks very flat and lacking detail (due to the cardio). All over you are soft and the muscles are not “popping” due to the cardio and wrong timing of carbs. Chest and shoulders need a lot more detail especially at 3 weeks out. You should be close to stage ready at this point.

On top of this, you still have some bodyfat to lose (assuming you’re doing a bodybuilding show)

Your body is probably in some kind of defense mechanism because of all of the cardio and under eating, this is why the body will struggle to hold on to the last few pounds of fat. It’s hard for me to give advise because you will need to change everything from diet, training and cardio.

My best advise is to hire a reputable bodybuilding coach, just do your research. Don’t go after any Internet gurus who are just good at marketing. Make sure they have a good track record with clients and themselves… If they can’t get themselves in shape then they can’t be relied on to bring you in shape.
From my experience, most people who are not high national level or pros don’t have enough personal experience and are usually just Internet gurus who can’t produce the results they promise.
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Thanks for your advice. Its my first competition, so i just did what i was adviced. Can i do anything these last 3 weeks? Im doing the show, now that i put all of that effort in it. And yeah, to get the experience. [/quote]

Can you post your cycle and diet again. I’ll see what kind of minor changes I can make without fucking it up. Keep in mind it’s hard to make any significant changes in the last 3 weeks.

First of all, start training more intensely and lower the cardio by at least 1/2. Have your carbs intraworkout from Plazma and not all in the morning.

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My diet is this:

1:
100g oats (the days on insulin, i will drink the oats after the shot)
500g milk

2:
40g protein powder (80%)
30g almonds
1 banana

3:
200g chicken
200g greens

4:
Pre-workout shake 40g (80%)

5:
Postw-shake 40g (80%)

6:
250g chicken
200g greens

7:
40g proteinpowder (100% isopure)

What elevation and speed would you do for the cardio?

Right now in running the following gear:

100mg test p eod
100mg mast eod
100mg tren a eod
100mg winstrol ed
50mcg T3
160mcg clen
Hgh 10iu ed
Insulin 5iu e3d
Igf 25mcg e3d

Again, thank you for your help. Its much appreciatet. Guess im learning this sport the “hard” way.

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]pravikhaira85 wrote:
Hey shadow,
Got a real big problem here. M 30 year old unmarried man, ill b married soon. I used stanazol fr 6 weeks in july last year that is 2013. Behavd very foolosh didnt do ny pct whtsoevr. Jst some tamoxifin here n thr. What ws evn worse tht i stoped using test aftr frst two weeks. Again took two weeks of deca with susta in dec 2013. Thn had to quit it inbetween bcoz of sum reason.

Since thn m off aas expecting tht sumhow my hpta will start working again. But its been almost a year, still nothings working. Leave aside morning woods its nt even errecting. What should i do. Ws thinking of new eq cycle bt have totaly dropped it fr d tym being. Will pct be of ny help now. I dont evn knw wht blood tests i gotta get done. Plz help[/quote]

You probably shut yourself down because of what you did. I would go and ask for a blood test that includes all testosterone levels and prolactin levels. If your levels are low (which I’m assuming they are) you’ll be prescribed HCG and/or HRT which will help reverse the problem.

In general, pct can help right now but I would suggest to go to the doctor and tell him all of the symptoms you just told me. If you want to go ahead and do it yourself you can use HCG, clomid and nolva, dosages would depend on how low your test levels are. You could start with something like…
1000iu of HCG eod (6 weeks)
Clomid for 4 weeks (100/100/50/50)
Nolvadex 5 weeks (40/40/40/20/20)
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Thnx fr d reply shadow,
I’ll get my tests done…
I’ll these b enough or should i add sum more into it…

  1. Free test
  2. Total test
  3. Lh
  4. Fsh
  5. E2
  6. Prolactin
  7. Shbg
  8. Dhea-s
  9. Tsh
    [/quote]

This looks good, but also add a regular blood count test to this.
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Alrite mate,
'll get dem done soon n post d results soon…

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Hey ShadowPro!!

Some questions regarding training:

1-Do you believe in Dorian Yates Style training?
2-Do you recommend slow reps for more time under tension or the fast explosive reps like Branch warren style for more size gains?
3-Do you prefer Full range of motion or 80% range of motion maintaining continuous tension for muscles hypertrophy?
Many thanks.

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Hi Shadow,

I made the changes you recommend me. Let’s see what is your opinion. I’m about 6 weeks out

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Diet

Meal 1
1.5 Mag10

Meal 2
30 grams Whey CFM
1 Tbsp coconut oil

Meal 3
3 - 4 Plazma

Meal 4
1.5 Mag10

Meal 5
6 oz Beef

Meal 6
6 oz chicken or turkey or white fish
1 Tbsp EVOO

Meal 7
6 oz chicken or turkey or white fish

AAS

100 Master ED
100 Tren-A ED
60 Anavar
20 Nolva
6 GH

SUPPS

Z12
RezV
Mineral Pro Elite
Indigo
MicroPa
Several combinations for liver and adrenals

I’m starting to be hungry. A lot in fact right know.
I didn’t cheat from 5 days ago. Carb meal makes me sleep bad.
I go walking 45 minutes very slowly first thing in the morning. Previously I take 18 mg yohimbine HCL, 200 mg caffeine and 150 mcg T4 (I realize didn’t mention it in the past.

It’s the first time I’m in such current condition. Everything is new for me so I don’t know how react. I only know work my ass off and discipline.

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BTW, it’s my before and after. Even though I’m gonna take AAS for the last 12 weeks, I’m working for 20 weeks so far. As I told, 6 weeks out to keep pushing hard. But I thing the real job will come to keep my conditioning in my pct and be launched for next phases.

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Ok, so I was being nice last time but your coach is an idiot. What he’s telling you is very wrong, run away!! Yes, you’re learning the hard way but we live and learn so don’t worry… Hopefully it’s your first show of many.

Make the following changes and I promise you will make improvements just from these.

Meal 1
Drop milk… Drinking milk at 3 weeks out is absurd. Fuck, even at 10 weeks out its unheard of.
10 egg whites instead and lower oats to 50g
Don’t do insulin in the morning

Meal 2
6 oz white fish
1tbsp mct oil

Meal 3
Replace chicken with 6oz fish
1/2tbsp mct oil

Meal 4 preworkout
1 serving Plazma 25min before workout

Meal 5
2 servings Plazma depending on intensity of training and how much insulin you use.
5-10iu insulin 5-10min before workout

Meal 6 30min after
3 scoops of mag10

Meal 7
6-8 ounces of steak
Greens

At 2 weeks out, drop the test prop. For your cardio do HIIT 30-40min once a day

Lower winstrol to 50mg/day.

Change masteron and tren to 75mg everyday.

Take GH first thing in the morning and 90min before workout.

Drop igf now, it’s probably making you hold water.

This is the the best I can do for small adjustments because it’s so close to the show. After the show I recommend you find someone reliable to help you for the next show.

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[quote]bishlawy wrote:
Hey ShadowPro!!

Some questions regarding training:

1-Do you believe in Dorian Yates Style training?
2-Do you recommend slow reps for more time under tension or the fast explosive reps like Branch warren style for more size gains?
3-Do you prefer Full range of motion or 80% range of motion maintaining continuous tension for muscles hypertrophy?
Many thanks.[/quote]

  1. Personally I don’t think it would work for most people. Not enough volume and high risk of injury. Most people don’t know how to warm up properly for this type of training. Also, most people won’t be able to reach an intensity high enough to get real benefit from this.

  2. You need to do both. For compounds, mostly explosive reps and for isolation, slower and controlled reps.

  3. Full range 100%. Unless you’re training around an injury or working past failure.

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[quote]michell wrote:
BTW, it’s my before and after. Even though I’m gonna take AAS for the last 12 weeks, I’m working for 20 weeks so far. As I told, 6 weeks out to keep pushing hard. But I thing the real job will come to keep my conditioning in my pct and be launched for next phases.

[/quote]

Your legs need to be tighter and leaner and you also look flat here. I would change your cardio to HIIT and think about training legs twice a week.

At 6 weeks out, if you’re not hungry I would be worried… Suck it up!

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]bishlawy wrote:
Hey ShadowPro!!

Some questions regarding training:

1-Do you believe in Dorian Yates Style training?
2-Do you recommend slow reps for more time under tension or the fast explosive reps like Branch warren style for more size gains?
3-Do you prefer Full range of motion or 80% range of motion maintaining continuous tension for muscles hypertrophy?
Many thanks.[/quote]

  1. Personally I don’t think it would work for most people. Not enough volume and high risk of injury. Most people don’t know how to warm up properly for this type of training. Also, most people won’t be able to reach an intensity high enough to get real benefit from this.

  2. You need to do both. For compounds, mostly explosive reps and for isolation, slower and controlled reps.

  3. Full range 100%. Unless you’re training around an injury or working past failure.[/quote]

Well, that’s great!!

Also, if you are tired and drained, you cannot increase weight or reps in a workout, what other techniques do you use to overload a muscle, and come out with successful workout?
Thanks…

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So, i followed your suggestion, did not se insulin and loaded on friday 30-50gr carbs per meal, but with more protein than you described. These were the macros:

Friday
Protein: 450 g
Carbs: 350 g
Fats: 55 g

OFF TRAINING

My saturday loading protocol was similar to
Layne Norton Competition peak week:

Saturday
Meal 1: (8 Hours Before Prejudging)
3 oz Sirloin Steak (lightly seasoned)

8 oz Sweet Potato

8 oz Water

Meal 2: (6 Hours Before Prejudging)
3 oz Sirloin Steak (lightly seasoned)

8 oz Sweet Potato

8 oz Water

Meal 3: (4 Hours Before Prejudging)
Protein Bar - myoplex PB (with glycerol, containing 20-30 g protein, 30-40 g carbs, and 10-15 g fat)

1 small Banana

8 oz Water

Meal 4: (2 Hours Before Prejudging)

3 oz Sirloin Steak (lightly seasoned)

14 oz Sweet Potato plus ketchup and potassium salt

no more water, just zipping to avoid thirst.

Meal 5: (Half Hour Before Stage)
2 Rice Cakes

half a protein bar

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In between those first four meals, I also drink 12 oz of water. After Meal No. 4, I sip water as needed to quench my thirst.

I also pump up for 10 minutes after Meal Nos. 1, 4, and right before hitting the stage to help deliver glucose to muscle cells."

that was the protocol i followed. the pics are from saturday, the ones on the bottom were taken around 4 hours before competition, the last ones were just before and after the show. i dont know what you think, but i think i looked better 4 hours before, than in the pre judge itself. the competition started a little late, so i could not time the meals perfectly and i waited an extra 2 hours where i just are a little bit of a protein bar and some raice cakes, with no water, just zipping.

i used half a tab dyazide the night before, and half a tab in the morning. maybe the effect blunted by the evening and i started retaining more water?

a huge part thanks to your advices and your answers to my questions, i won my category and i classified for the sudamerican bodybuiding championship,!! that will take place IN 2 WEEKS from now.!!

Any suggestion for the peak week, as for training for these 2 weeks are very very welcome! i can train 2 times a day, and are willing to continue the AAS stack i mentioned before, as well as insulin, if you suggest a protocol that keeps me gaining lean mass and burning fat at the same time. i have plazma on hand (2-3 scoops a day is my max supply), and im taking 75mcg T3 with my AAS doses. upped the adex dose to 1mg ED, as you suggested.

currently on:
Mast p 100mg EOD
Test p 100mg EOD
tren E 200mg week

A normal day would look like this:
wake up:
1 rhodiola
20mg oxandrolone
15mg halotestin
35mcg T3
1mg adex

20 min later
breakfast: 5 egg whites, 1 scoop hydrowhey (MAG-10 is not available for me at the moment, i ordered it but wont arrive on time, i ony have 2 weeks left, remember)

1 hour later
option 1)
1 HOT-ROX
40min LOW REP STRENGHT training + 40 min incline walk (without plazma)
20gr bcaa during workout

OR

option 2)
1 C4 pre workout
2 scoops plazma + 10 UI insulin and 2 hours intense weight training, starting with O-lifting (3 explosive reps) then compound movements in the 6-8 REP range, and finishing with 10-20 reps on isolation movements.

if i do option 1, i save the plazma and insulin doses for a hypertrophy session later in the day. + 1 rhodiola and half pre workout dose

right after training:
1 scoop hydrowhey

40min after training
24oz chicken breast, 100gr quinoa, greens

2 hours later
24oz red meat, greens

2 hours later
24oz red meat, greens

2 hours later
24oz red meat, greens

before bed: 50gr whey protein isolate + 5 egg whites + cinnamon (my microwave recipe)
4-6 caps FISH OIL 600 DHA
5gr soy lecithin granules

usually a day with one training session ends up in
400-500gr protein
100-200gr carbs
50-70 gr fats

aprox 3000kcal

and with two training sessions
400-500gr protein
200-300gr carbs
60-90gr fat

aprox 3400kcal

a day without training would look like this
400gr prot
50-100gr carbs
50gr fats

i usually train 6 days a week because i cannot handle the low activity - low calorie days, so i just go and hit the weights so i can eat more…

any advice would help me a lot. i have clen on hand, and winstrol tabs, dont know if they will help now that i have only 2 weeks left… if you can, advice a useful protocol for this last 2 weeks, to thighten up a little more, hopefully without dropping the insulin ( without carbs i fell like shit).

this will help me not only for the competition that is coming, but for the rest of my contest preps. thank you very much in advance.

cheers bro, you have been a great help so far!!

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]michell wrote:
BTW, it’s my before and after. Even though I’m gonna take AAS for the last 12 weeks, I’m working for 20 weeks so far. As I told, 6 weeks out to keep pushing hard. But I thing the real job will come to keep my conditioning in my pct and be launched for next phases.

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Your legs need to be tighter and leaner and you also look flat here. I would change your cardio to HIIT and think about training legs twice a week.

At 6 weeks out, if you’re not hungry I would be worried… Suck it up!
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I train twice a week legs. I usually perform heavy and pump days. My training this week looks like this:

HEAVY DAY

  1. Leg curl
    Sets of 10 increasing weight each set. The last one is a tripe drop set plus partials at the end.

  2. Back Squat (ass to the grass)
    Sets of 8 increasing weight each set until I can’t do more sets of 8

Superset
3.1 Leg press
4 sets of 12
3.2 Bulgarian Split Squat
4 sets of 8. The last one being a triple drop set with iso-holds

  1. Leg extensions
    4 sets of 15 plus partials at the end of each set

  2. Romaninan deadlift
    4 sets of 10

PUMP DAY

  1. Leg curl variation
    6 sets of 10

  2. Adductors machine
    4 sets of 12

  3. Back Squat (explosive)
    sets of 6

  4. Leg Extensions
    1 set of 30, 1 set of 20, 1 set of 10

  5. Leg press
    4 sets of 20

Pump day I avoid any intensive/extensive technique.

  • What kind of HIIT protocol do you like?
  • How should taper down tren and master last 6 weeks?
  • Would you try halo last 3 weeks?

Thanks!

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Hi Shadow, bodybuilding mags are not exactly jam packed with advice for the guy training naturally and unassisted…not to mention all those supplement adverts that make up 80% of the damn magazine!!!
So how would you advise a totally natural guy approaching you on things like;

How long should a weight training sessions last? (30 -40 min - less than an hour)?
How many times per week should I aim to train?..again recovery is a big issue here

Should one follow the typical bodybuilder split or stick to a full body routine?
If full body are we looking at just ONE basic exercise per major body part…should one even consider isolation exercises?

Should I mix up my exercises regularly or stick with the same basic one’s.
If I mix it up, is it weekly or only change it up after using the same exercises for 6 to 8 weeks?

How and where do you slot the cardio in and how long should the cardio sessions be considering the limited recovery ability?
I know you mentioned 20 -30 minute HIT type programs for cardio, but how do I incorporate it into my weekly programming along with the weight training (considering limited recovery ability and total training time.)

Thank you!

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[quote]charles_chow wrote:

[quote]charles_chow wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]charles_chow wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

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sorry,Mr.shadow pro im so Stupid ,wt do u mean 40/40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50 ^^"[/quote]

u suggest orally or injection??if choice injection,butt?arm?or other body part??

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[quote]charles_chow wrote:

[quote]charles_chow wrote:

[quote]charles_chow wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]charles_chow wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[/quote]

sorry,Mr.shadow pro im so Stupid ,wt do u mean 40/40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50 ^^"[/quote]

u suggest orally or injection??if choice injection,butt?arm?or other body part?? [/quote]

You have a lot of learning to do my friend, clomid and nolva are tabs so you obviously take them orally. HCG is usually mixed with sodium chloride solution, which you can inject subq or IM.