Shadow Pro Q&A 2.0

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[quote]Legit_Force wrote:
hey shadow, yu may or may not have answered this Q but there is so much traffic that can’t really look through it all. if yu could take the time to read, it be much appreciated.

so I’m 29 years old i just finished my first 12 week cycle of SUS 250 @ 1cc 2x wk as well as deca 300 mg 1x a wk. i had fantastic gains and was shredded as well, my start out weight was 170lbs at the end of my 12 weeks i was at 210lbs. being that it was my first cycle ever, i didn’t know that yu can’t just stop w/o taking any orals. it has been 9 weeks since my last injection and i have still been very active with my gym workouts, but i shrunk down to 185lbs and still shrinking.

i am about to start a cycle of sus and tren E at the end of august, i hope yu could give me so info to where i don’t lose all of my gains like i did my first cycle. money isn’t an issue and i have a very promising conection to nearly anything. can yu help me with some guidelines so this doesn’t happen again?[/quote]

First of all, you need to make sure your diet is in tact both on and off cycle. Macros should be adjusted accordingly.

Are you using Plazma during the workout? This is very important for gains while on cycle and for maintaining the gains after you go off.

Did you do a proper pct after this cycle?

Using GH during the cycle and continuing after the cycle will help you keep the gains. Also, staying on GH after the cycle won’t interrupt your pct.

You didn’t give me enough info here, but my best guess is that it’s an issue with your diet and/or training.

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[quote]Monty604 wrote:
Hi Shadow Pro. I am 15 Weeks Out from competition and wanted to post my cycle here along with my diet to get your take on things.

Stats:
219.5 lbs
5’9"
12% bodyfat
Training experience: 17 Years have been coached previously by another IFBB pro

Goal: Win Light Heavy Weight at my contest and Overall

Diet:

First Meal
40g protein from Extra Lean Ground Beef and 40g fats from coconut oil veggies with all meals (Multi, Vitamin C, Cla, DIM, NAC, LiverCare)

Second Meal
50g protein from Extra Lean Ground Bison and 50g carbs from Brown Rice Pasta 5g fish oil

Pre-Workout Meal
1/4 cup organic cream of brown rice 1 medium apple 2 scoops whey protein (Multi, Probiotic, Zinc)

Intra-Workout:
150g Carbs from Karbolyn, 50grams protein from Hydrolyzed Casinate (Would you Add BCAA’s here if you were not doing hydrolyzed casinate?) Post Workout 50grams Whey Protein Isolate with Greens.

Post Workout Meal:
2 cups White Rice 6oz Extra Lean Ground Bison 30grams Whey protein isolate

Last Meal:
8oz Ground Turkey Breast (homemade burger in lettuce wrap) 1 TBSP Avacado Oil

Non Training Days:
I take out the Intra/Post Workout Shake. I divide the Post Workout Meal into 2 Whole Food Meals instead.

Cycle: (GH Genevatropin and Saizen 6-8iu/day) T3. 12.5mcg to start Clen/ECA 2 on 1 off 2 on 2 off. 250iu hcg 2x/week, aromasin 12.5mg daily
15 Weeks out: 600mg test 2x/week, 300 deca 2x/week anadrol 50mg preworkout
14 Weeks out: up Deca to 450mg
13 Weeks out: up Test to 800mg
12 Weeks out: 50mg winstrol/day 50mg proviron/day Take out anadrol
11 Weeks out: Add 5iu slin pre like you suggested
10 Weeks out: Add 100mg Mast Prop EOD
9 Weeks out: Same
8 Weeks out: Take out Deca, Add in EQ, Start 100mg Tren Ace EOD
7 Weeks out: Take out long acting test switch to 150mg Test Prop EOD
6 Weeks out: 50mg Test Suspension preworkout 20mg halo daily, 25mg anadrol daily, (50mg anavar daily or 50mg primo ace daily or both) Your Take on this oral protocol please.
5 Weeks out: tren mast 150mg now. Aromasin 25mg proviron 100mg winstrol 75mg
4 Weeks out: Stop Humalog
3 Weeks out: tren and mast 200mg
2 Weeks out: same
1 Weeks out: see what’s happening.

[/quote]

Thanks for posting, you gave me a lot of information and I appreciate this. I see a lot of things I would change but I don’t want to give any information without seeing some current photos. Please post a front and back relaxed so I can give more accurate information.

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my diet is pretty strict on and off cycles. I am eating about 5 times a day, mostly grilled or baked chicken breast, veggies, carbs. i drink protein shakes while on cycle but not so much off cycle plus i don’t drink or drug

I would have been fine to just lose 10lbs, just couldn’t believe how i lost 25lbs.

I don’t no what yu mean by macros. but I’m quessing i didn’t adjust accordingly.

no plasma was used during my work outs, again not sure what that is. but this sounds important.

i was also not taking any pct orals after my cycle but i made sure to get some nova for when i get on my next cycle.

i would like to get into the GH, yu have been writing about this throughout your Q&A. just not sure the levels to administer. is this oral or oils? GH is something i’d really like to experiment with after my next cycle,

my training is pretty strict, i was an army ranger in my earlier yearsin the service so i have a great work ethic, i train like an animal 5-6 days in the gym plus what i do outside the gym on my own.

i hope this will help better then my last post

thanks for getting back to me so quickly Shaddow

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Monty604 wrote:
Hi Shadow Pro. I am 15 Weeks Out from competition and wanted to post my cycle here along with my diet to get your take on things.

Stats:
219.5 lbs
5’9"
12% bodyfat
Training experience: 17 Years have been coached previously by another IFBB pro

Goal: Win Light Heavy Weight at my contest and Overall

Diet:

First Meal
40g protein from Extra Lean Ground Beef and 40g fats from coconut oil veggies with all meals (Multi, Vitamin C, Cla, DIM, NAC, LiverCare)

Second Meal
50g protein from Extra Lean Ground Bison and 50g carbs from Brown Rice Pasta 5g fish oil

Pre-Workout Meal
1/4 cup organic cream of brown rice 1 medium apple 2 scoops whey protein (Multi, Probiotic, Zinc)

Intra-Workout:
150g Carbs from Karbolyn, 50grams protein from Hydrolyzed Casinate (Would you Add BCAA’s here if you were not doing hydrolyzed casinate?) Post Workout 50grams Whey Protein Isolate with Greens.

Post Workout Meal:
2 cups White Rice 6oz Extra Lean Ground Bison 30grams Whey protein isolate

Last Meal:
8oz Ground Turkey Breast (homemade burger in lettuce wrap) 1 TBSP Avacado Oil

Non Training Days:
I take out the Intra/Post Workout Shake. I divide the Post Workout Meal into 2 Whole Food Meals instead.

Cycle: (GH Genevatropin and Saizen 6-8iu/day) T3. 12.5mcg to start Clen/ECA 2 on 1 off 2 on 2 off. 250iu hcg 2x/week, aromasin 12.5mg daily
15 Weeks out: 600mg test 2x/week, 300 deca 2x/week anadrol 50mg preworkout
14 Weeks out: up Deca to 450mg
13 Weeks out: up Test to 800mg
12 Weeks out: 50mg winstrol/day 50mg proviron/day Take out anadrol
11 Weeks out: Add 5iu slin pre like you suggested
10 Weeks out: Add 100mg Mast Prop EOD
9 Weeks out: Same
8 Weeks out: Take out Deca, Add in EQ, Start 100mg Tren Ace EOD
7 Weeks out: Take out long acting test switch to 150mg Test Prop EOD
6 Weeks out: 50mg Test Suspension preworkout 20mg halo daily, 25mg anadrol daily, (50mg anavar daily or 50mg primo ace daily or both) Your Take on this oral protocol please.
5 Weeks out: tren mast 150mg now. Aromasin 25mg proviron 100mg winstrol 75mg
4 Weeks out: Stop Humalog
3 Weeks out: tren and mast 200mg
2 Weeks out: same
1 Weeks out: see what’s happening.

[/quote]

Thanks for posting, you gave me a lot of information and I appreciate this. I see a lot of things I would change but I don’t want to give any information without seeing some current photos. Please post a front and back relaxed so I can give more accurate information.

[/quote]

Awesome Thank You I will get the wife to take some pictures in the morning brother!

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Hi Shadow…I want to ask some questions that have popped up regularly on other sites and should probably be in the bro science hall of fame…I guess this relates more to folks that have only used juice moderately or just done a few light cycles.

a) What would the benefit be of using 10mg of Dbol in the mornings as a bridge between light cycles?

b) The benefit of using only 10mg of Dbol as a supplement, perhaps post workout to help recovery, or prior to workouts to give a boost?

The basic idea is to get some benefit and eliminate shutdown.
As a side note, do you perhaps know of any such uses of Dbol in the early days of bodybuilding?

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Shadow,
I posted a question for you intended for your forum. I am a complete moron when it comes to computers. If you can, can you move it to here and take a look. Thx

-ExPro79

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ShadowPro, with regard to a bb’s eating habits and food selection, I have a slightly different question for you, which is one with regards to a pro’s diet and vitamin & mineral supplementation: I am curious as to how most competition bodybuilders eat and diet (generally speaking) during the off season, as well as just before a competition to get in peak shape.

Since you are an experienced competitor, with the relevant vast expertise and credentials in this field, I’d greatly appreciate your personal input and observation on this subject. I understand that this is quite an extensive question, and it can vary to significantly in degree from individual to individual, but I am trying to find out (in the most general sense) how much things have changed from 20-30 years ago, as opposed to today. In retrospect I’d like to understand how a pro bodybuilder approaches his daily dietary intake, and how most IFBB pros structure their diets throughout the course of a typical day.

For example, former bodybuilder Ric Drasin (who used to train with Arnold and the boys back in the day, andhappens to have quite a prolific following on YouTube), talks extensive about the time he used to train, and how the guys (back in the 70’s at Venice Beach) used to eat every day. It sounds like it was very simple and basic back then: a seven egg omelet for breakfast, cottage cheese as a snack, steak and lean hamburger meat w/a salad for lunch and dinner, buffet style (meat, chicken & fish) grub from time to time, and the occasional end of the week all-you-can-eat pie feast (which Arnold himself was well know for) as a treat and carb-up. In short, high protein, moderate fat, and mostly low carbs pretty much year round.

Fast forward to the year 2000, and the info I received sounded radically different (as written in online features and forums, as well as from a competitor I spoke with at the time), where things became much more varied and elaborate with food selection, as well as with attention to detail (in types of food and macronutrient partitioning) for some bb’s. I know there were guys at the time (or so I heard) that still never wandered that far off, poundage and fat wise, from stage shape, and then there were guys like Lee Priest - who were renowned for ballooning up and down during the off season and on stage - whose diet contained lots of junk, fast and sugary food, in addition to continuously devouring seemingly limitless calories throughout the day during their off-season mass phase. As such, do most pro’s still follow this “eat everything in sight” approach, namely in the off season?

As for pros your size, what constitutes the typical caloric and macronutrient ranges throughout the year? How about grams of protein, fats and carbs per day, during both a mass and cutting phase?

Lastly, strictly form a vitamin and mineral supplement standpoint, what are the primary vitamin and mineral supplements you use (and recommend) yourself throughout the year? Do you know if most pros do the same?

Your insight and feedback would be most welcome.

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[quote]Legit_Force wrote:

my diet is pretty strict on and off cycles. I am eating about 5 times a day, mostly grilled or baked chicken breast, veggies, carbs. i drink protein shakes while on cycle but not so much off cycle plus i don’t drink or drug

I would have been fine to just lose 10lbs, just couldn’t believe how i lost 25lbs.

I don’t no what yu mean by macros. but I’m quessing i didn’t adjust accordingly.

no plasma was used during my work outs, again not sure what that is. but this sounds important.

i was also not taking any pct orals after my cycle but i made sure to get some nova for when i get on my next cycle.

i would like to get into the GH, yu have been writing about this throughout your Q&A. just not sure the levels to administer. is this oral or oils? GH is something i’d really like to experiment with after my next cycle,

my training is pretty strict, i was an army ranger in my earlier yearsin the service so i have a great work ethic, i train like an animal 5-6 days in the gym plus what i do outside the gym on my own.

i hope this will help better then my last post

thanks for getting back to me so quickly Shaddow[/quote]

Don’t get me wrong buddy but if you have to ask whether GH is administered orally or in oils then you really have some reading up to do. Google is your friend.

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Shadow, which of these scenarios would you deem “most optimal?”

AM Training Session:

Breakfast/Pre WO:
75g CHO + Pro

Intra Workout: 50-75g CHO from Plazma

Post WO:

100-125g CHO, mostly from white rice, white potatoes, little veggies. + Pro

Next Meal:
Pro + Fat from MCT Oil

Dinner:
50-75g CHO + Pro (about 30-40g starch like brown rice, rest from veggies)

Before Bed:
Pro + Fat and maybe some more veggies

PM Training Session:

Breakfast: 50g CHO + Pro

Next Meal: Pro + Fat

Next Meal: Pro + Veggies Only

Pre WO: 75g CHO + Pro

Intra: Plazma as stated above

Dinner / Post WO, largest meal: Pro + 150-200g CHO

Before bed: Pro + Fat from MCT Oil

Might be splitting hairs here, but trying to find the best scenario for when I obtain a full-time job. Trying to keep gains as lean as possible.

And i don’t think you’ve been asked this, but when would you rather recommend a cycle? For example and for pure physique purposes, when someone reaches a plateau in either weight gain or strength, or when someone reaches a particular weight? Since I’m 5’5" I was thinking of waiting until I reach the 165-170 region naturally. Plan on taking only Micro-PA at 750mg Pre WO and possibly trying out 1g -1.5g if funds allow.

Also, when do you recommend taking any thyroid medication like T3 or T4? I was prescribed T4 finally for hypothyroid and was going to dose it when I get up to pee at like 2 AM as I usually do since it should be spread apart from meals. Looking to make somewhat of an optimal benefit of the prescription if possible in terms of bodybuilding

Sorry for the long post, and thanks again !

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yea, I’m a definate newb to this shit, acronyms and diff types of gear. just want to do it correctly, thought i could reach out

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[quote]Legit_Force wrote:

my diet is pretty strict on and off cycles. I am eating about 5 times a day, mostly grilled or baked chicken breast, veggies, carbs. i drink protein shakes while on cycle but not so much off cycle plus i don’t drink or drug

I would have been fine to just lose 10lbs, just couldn’t believe how i lost 25lbs.

I don’t no what yu mean by macros. but I’m quessing i didn’t adjust accordingly.

no plasma was used during my work outs, again not sure what that is. but this sounds important.

i was also not taking any pct orals after my cycle but i made sure to get some nova for when i get on my next cycle.

i would like to get into the GH, yu have been writing about this throughout your Q&A. just not sure the levels to administer. is this oral or oils? GH is something i’d really like to experiment with after my next cycle,

my training is pretty strict, i was an army ranger in my earlier yearsin the service so i have a great work ethic, i train like an animal 5-6 days in the gym plus what i do outside the gym on my own.

i hope this will help better then my last post

thanks for getting back to me so quickly Shaddow[/quote]

Ok, first things first my friend! You have a lot of research to do before even considering another cycle.

Knowing what macros are and how to administer GH is very VERY basic information. I would suggest you hire a coach that knows what he’s doing in order to help you learn the basics and to be safe.

This is Plazma

You are right, it’s very important and with this alone you won’t lose any muscle and likely gain some. It will help tremendously with recovery.

Also, HCG should be used during your cycle and in your pct, nolvadex alone won’t cut it.

You should really take the time and read through the first thread, you will learn a lot there. It will also tell you how much, when and how to use GH. Btw- GH isn’t an oral or an oil!

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[quote]Warner wrote:
Hi Shadow…I want to ask some questions that have popped up regularly on other sites and should probably be in the bro science hall of fame…I guess this relates more to folks that have only used juice moderately or just done a few light cycles.

a) What would the benefit be of using 10mg of Dbol in the mornings as a bridge between light cycles?

b) The benefit of using only 10mg of Dbol as a supplement, perhaps post workout to help recovery, or prior to workouts to give a boost?

The basic idea is to get some benefit and eliminate shutdown.
As a side note, do you perhaps know of any such uses of Dbol in the early days of bodybuilding? [/quote]

A. I think it would give you very little benefit, if any. If you’re after a regular cycle, it won’t prevent you from crashing.

B. Again, if you do this you will experience very little… It’s too small of a dose to make any kind of impact, you’d probably see the same from a basic supplement like Creatine.

No, I’ve never heard of anything like this even in the early years… Lowest dose I’d consider is 30mg.

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[quote]ExPro79 wrote:
Shadow,
I posted a question for you intended for your forum. I am a complete moron when it comes to computers. If you can, can you move it to here and take a look. Thx

-ExPro79[/quote]

Ok, thanks I’ll check it out. I’ll copy it and answer the questions in this thread.

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[quote]MikeManos wrote:
ShadowPro, with regard to a bb’s eating habits and food selection, I have a slightly different question for you, which is one with regards to a pro’s diet and vitamin & mineral supplementation: I am curious as to how most competition bodybuilders eat and diet (generally speaking) during the off season, as well as just before a competition to get in peak shape.

Since you are an experienced competitor, with the relevant vast expertise and credentials in this field, I’d greatly appreciate your personal input and observation on this subject. I understand that this is quite an extensive question, and it can vary to significantly in degree from individual to individual, but I am trying to find out (in the most general sense) how much things have changed from 20-30 years ago, as opposed to today. In retrospect I’d like to understand how a pro bodybuilder approaches his daily dietary intake, and how most IFBB pros structure their diets throughout the course of a typical day.

For example, former bodybuilder Ric Drasin (who used to train with Arnold and the boys back in the day, andhappens to have quite a prolific following on YouTube), talks extensive about the time he used to train, and how the guys (back in the 70’s at Venice Beach) used to eat every day. It sounds like it was very simple and basic back then: a seven egg omelet for breakfast, cottage cheese as a snack, steak and lean hamburger meat w/a salad for lunch and dinner, buffet style (meat, chicken & fish) grub from time to time, and the occasional end of the week all-you-can-eat pie feast (which Arnold himself was well know for) as a treat and carb-up. In short, high protein, moderate fat, and mostly low carbs pretty much year round.

Fast forward to the year 2000, and the info I received sounded radically different (as written in online features and forums, as well as from a competitor I spoke with at the time), where things became much more varied and elaborate with food selection, as well as with attention to detail (in types of food and macronutrient partitioning) for some bb’s. I know there were guys at the time (or so I heard) that still never wandered that far off, poundage and fat wise, from stage shape, and then there were guys like Lee Priest - who were renowned for ballooning up and down during the off season and on stage - whose diet contained lots of junk, fast and sugary food, in addition to continuously devouring seemingly limitless calories throughout the day during their off-season mass phase. As such, do most pro’s still follow this “eat everything in sight” approach, namely in the off season?

As for pros your size, what constitutes the typical caloric and macronutrient ranges throughout the year? How about grams of protein, fats and carbs per day, during both a mass and cutting phase?

Lastly, strictly form a vitamin and mineral supplement standpoint, what are the primary vitamin and mineral supplements you use (and recommend) yourself throughout the year? Do you know if most pros do the same?

Your insight and feedback would be most welcome.[/quote]

Nutritional science has evolved tremendously since those days. With the introduction of Peri-Workout nutrition and higher quality supplements the game has changed. No one eats the way they used to back in the day, it was far from optimal.

As far as bodyfat percentages, most of the guys are staying around 8-10% even in the off season and still eat clean food year round just in larger amounts. The approach that most guys are using today is high protein, high carb and low fat. The amounts are individual and depends on the person, they are also changing based on training and timing around the competitions. Cheat meals are placed strategically into the meal plan, usually once or twice a week depending if it’s offseason or during the prep.

Ok, as far as supplements… Here is what I use and recommend. A lot of other guys I know are using the same but you won’t always hear about these specifically from the guys because they are obligated to promote the supplements companies who pay their bills.

All year:
Elitepro multiminerals
Calcium
Vitamin-C
Circumin
Flameout
Superfood
Plazma
MAG-10
NAC

Diet:
Indigo-3G
Micro-PA

After my competition season ends I’ll get on Alpha Male, Rhodiola , Rez-V and kidney support.

I really need to make a strong note about the MAG-10 and Plazma here… Regardless of what supplement company that anyone is sponsored by or working with. These 2 are a staple that cannot be missed.

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Shadow I PM’d you some pictures

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After my competition season ends I’ll get on Alpha Male, Rhodiola , Rez-V and kidney support.

Just out of curiosity what kind or type of kidney support do you use?

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[quote]SauceMonkey wrote:
Shadow, which of these scenarios would you deem “most optimal?”

AM Training Session:

Breakfast/Pre WO:
75g CHO + Pro

Intra Workout: 50-75g CHO from Plazma

Post WO:

100-125g CHO, mostly from white rice, white potatoes, little veggies. + Pro

Next Meal:
Pro + Fat from MCT Oil

Dinner:
50-75g CHO + Pro (about 30-40g starch like brown rice, rest from veggies)

Before Bed:
Pro + Fat and maybe some more veggies

PM Training Session:

Breakfast: 50g CHO + Pro

Next Meal: Pro + Fat

Next Meal: Pro + Veggies Only

Pre WO: 75g CHO + Pro

Intra: Plazma as stated above

Dinner / Post WO, largest meal: Pro + 150-200g CHO

Before bed: Pro + Fat from MCT Oil

Might be splitting hairs here, but trying to find the best scenario for when I obtain a full-time job. Trying to keep gains as lean as possible.

And i don’t think you’ve been asked this, but when would you rather recommend a cycle? For example and for pure physique purposes, when someone reaches a plateau in either weight gain or strength, or when someone reaches a particular weight? Since I’m 5’5" I was thinking of waiting until I reach the 165-170 region naturally. Plan on taking only Micro-PA at 750mg Pre WO and possibly trying out 1g -1.5g if funds allow.

Also, when do you recommend taking any thyroid medication like T3 or T4? I was prescribed T4 finally for hypothyroid and was going to dose it when I get up to pee at like 2 AM as I usually do since it should be spread apart from meals. Looking to make somewhat of an optimal benefit of the prescription if possible in terms of bodybuilding

Sorry for the long post, and thanks again ![/quote]

Both options are very similar but it really depends on when you feel your strongest. I prefer to train later in the day but some people prefer the morning. What I would change is to add more carbs intraworkout and take them away from the post workout meal (for example: 120-150g intra & 75-100g post). This would be a better option.

I don’t necessarily go by bodyweight when determining when it’s the right time to start a cycle, it can be very deceiving. Plateau in strength or muscle gains would be a better signal to determine whether it’s time to start or not, also bodyfat should be down to a respectable level of ~10% naturally before beginning for optimal results. You can be 5’5 @ 170 ripped or 5’5 @170 and be a fatass, so the weight isnt be good indication.

Your plan for the micro-pa is good. As for t3 or t4, I would either take it pre cardio or before bed. Your idea of taking it in the middle of the night isn’t a bad idea either, just make sure you aren’t sleeping straight through and missing it.

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[quote]Monty604 wrote:
Shadow I PM’d you some pictures [/quote]

I don’t receive PM’s

Post it here on the thread so others can benefit from the answers and information as well. Just block your face from the pictures if you don’t want people to see you.

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[quote]as wrote:
After my competition season ends I’ll get on Alpha Male, Rhodiola , Rez-V and kidney support.

Just out of curiosity what kind or type of kidney support do you use?[/quote]

You’ll be surprised at how well these work together for recovery. The Kidney Support I’m using is called Himalaya, this one is decent.

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Thank you for posting, I appreciate the support. It’s great to have you here and thanks for sharing your story.
It’s good to have another professional athlete here from another sport(a very respectable sport) I’m sure a lot of guys here are interested in hearing more from you as well…

Here’s my suggestions…

  • even on a low carb diet, I would still keep the Plazma intraworkout. These carbs are thermic in nature and you won’t get fat from this. If anything you’ll get leaner and recover faster. 80-120g of carbs intraworkout would work for your diet. Replace the extra calories from the carbs by lowering your fat somewhere else in the day.
  • at your age, GH is your best friend for both body composition purposes and recovery. The first thing I would do is increase your GH to 4-6iu/day and use it on a semi-empty stomach (first thing in the morning or 60min preworkout)
    -keep protein at 1.2-1.5g/lb

If getting lean is your main hola, you can try something like this for your cycle. Dosages will be determined based on your cycle history

10-12weeks
Test-P @ 100-150mg EOD
Tren-A @ 75mg ED or 150mg EOD
Masteron-P @ 75mg ED or 150 EOD
T3 @12.5mcg ED (increase by 12.5mcg every week until you reach 50-75) you should taper it down very slowly
Nolvadex 10-20mg ED
HCG @ 250iu 2x/week
(Clenbuterol is also an option if you want to speed up the fat burning process)
Indigo-3G is also amazing for body composition purposes

Your training looks great, you can add HIIT cardio 3x/week to speed the progress.

If you don’t want to use prescription fat loss products you can try HOT-ROX in place of t3 and clenbuterol.

GH and t3 are the key for the fat loss, the tren and test will help retain and possibly gain some new muscle. The masteron will give you a harder/leaner look and work as a mild anti-estrogen. It’s a basic cycle but it works like a charm everytime.

Thanks again for posting, I look forward to hearing how everything works out for you.