Shadow Pro Q&A 2.0

Pharma
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[quote]Ranjanman wrote:
Is EQ even worth the buy
I know alot of people in my gym who have used it up to 600mg a week
and they said all it did was make them hungry and increase BP
I have about 20 vials on me was wondering if i should throw it in my bulking cycle in sept

same with Tbol I have used Dbol before, was wonder if I can pack on mass like I did with Dbol just without the bloat.

Was thinking of running

750 mg Test E
900 EQ
Kickstarted with 50mg Tbol[/quote]

Eq is a great drug, it can give you good mass gains and better strength endurance. The cycle you suggested looks good but don’t forget your HCG and antiestrogens.

The mass gains from tbol won’t be as significant as dbol, it’s a more gentle drug but if you’re worried about bloating then it’s a better choice.

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Hi, shadow!

Let me introduce myself at first.

I am 22 years old, 188cm, 90kg, bf7.5%. I train powerlifting for almost three years, before I play basketball.

My first cycle for powerlifting is test e 580mg EW for 11 weeks, dbol 30mg ED in the first 4 weeks and m1t 7.5mg ED in the last 3 weeks. The result is amazing. I improved my squat from 165kg to 215kg, bench press from 100kg to 115kg, deadlift from 185kg to 240kg, under ipf rules without equipment, my body weight decrease from 91kg to 84 kg and body fat from 9% down to 6%.

I want to ask the question about the powerlifting cycle.

I am going to start a new AAS cycle in September. My goal is squat 270kg, bench press 150kg, deadlift 280kg, maybe decrease my body weight to 83kg class. What is the best gears for my goal?

Appreciate your reply!

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My question is, I know you’ve said you use pharm grade whenever possible, if the only source someone had was UGL, what would be some key signs you’d look for when finding a legit company. Obviously feedback/test results are the only true ways, but are there any other certain things you’d watch out for?

Also, have you seen any synergy when having all 3 families of aas(test+dht+19-nor) in a cycle? Or is it mainly just based of goals of cycle which compounds to include.

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[quote]Victor9 wrote:
Hi, shadow!

Let me introduce myself at first.

I am 22 years old, 188cm, 90kg, bf7.5%. I train powerlifting for almost three years, before I play basketball.

My first cycle for powerlifting is test e 580mg EW for 11 weeks, dbol 30mg ED in the first 4 weeks and m1t 7.5mg ED in the last 3 weeks. The result is amazing. I improved my squat from 165kg to 215kg, bench press from 100kg to 115kg, deadlift from 185kg to 240kg, under ipf rules without equipment, my body weight decrease from 91kg to 84 kg and body fat from 9% down to 6%.

I want to ask the question about the powerlifting cycle.

I am going to start a new AAS cycle in September. My goal is squat 270kg, bench press 150kg, deadlift 280kg, maybe decrease my body weight to 83kg class. What is the best gears for my goal?

Appreciate your reply![/quote]

You can try something like this…
12 weeks
Test-e @ 750mg/week
Tren-a @ 75-100mg/ED
Anadrol @ 50mg/ED (first 6 weeks)
HCG @ 250iu 2x/week
Nolva @ 10-20mg ED

There’s no “best” cycle but this is a decent one for strength gains. Anadrol will cause some water retention but will make you strong as hell. If you want to look leaner with less water retention, you could try halo @ 30-40mg/day for the first 3-4 weeks instead of the Anadrol… Keep in mind it’s a very harsh drug and I don’t think it’s a great idea for a second cycle. OR you could use dbol in place of Anadrol but increase it to 50mg Everyday. Just choose one of the 3 orals.

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[quote]anvilTX wrote:
My question is, I know you’ve said you use pharm grade whenever possible, if the only source someone had was UGL, what would be some key signs you’d look for when finding a legit company. Obviously feedback/test results are the only true ways, but are there any other certain things you’d watch out for?

Also, have you seen any synergy when having all 3 families of aas(test+dht+19-nor) in a cycle? Or is it mainly just based of goals of cycle which compounds to include.[/quote]

For me, I always have it tested but I know that’s not always possible. It’s really hard to tell because people can make something that appears to be a quality product but it’s not, or it can look like shit but work very well… Always look at the guys who use the product, if they look like shit then chances are it’s not so great.
Another obvious one is to make sure the oils are clear without seeing crystals or anything else floating around.

I choose my compounds according to my goals.

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Thanks for answering my questions! We really appreciate this!
I got 1 more,My gut swolls the f#ck up during the day,I have it for years,I’m diagnosed with IBS said the doctor because they couldn’t find
anything,I have no lactose/gluten or something similar allergy…also no Crohn…I’m 12 weeks out now. If I eat or just drink something my belly is bloated like a 6 months pregnant women,i’m at 9% bodyfat bt my gut tells me 15-ish lol…I’m even ashame 2 go for a swim…haha,my carb sources are: oatmeal,brown rice en brown pasta,apple, for protein just chicken/meat en my whey pwo…I’m carefully with vegetables and diet soda (gas/air) Could I use laxatives 2 clean out my bowels the day before the show or the day itself allong with a diuretic like aldactizine…

thnx man

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Hi Shadow,

I was just wondering how does it work in this industry with the sponsors?

From what I heard, the way it works is that the sponsor pay you for supplements, gear, food while the athlete have to keep his/her mouth shut and lie about the gear use and just promote their products… Does it really work like this?

Also I am sure you heard of the fake natty crews that state they are natural but we all know they aint. I was wondering what shit are they using to be that low bf%, hard and in shape all year round. I mean guys like Sergi Constance, Jaco De Bruyn, Lazar Angelov etc…

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]TT Eric wrote:
Hi! I would like to jump in the bandwagon and ask your input about my diet!

I’m near 44 y/o, 5’ 9’', natural, I have 13 years of training, 10 years in the 80-90s, did some competitions (as natural) back then, took a 20 years break, started back training in 2011 with a plan to go back on the stage in 2016 with the old farts, still as natural.

Actually 183lbs, LBM around 165lbs, currently dieting (dieting every year to keep good insulin sensibility).

Pic at 186lbs (2 weeks ago):

Here is the diet I have planned after the diet (with a transition time):

Meal#1: Raw milk 1/2-1 cup of berries 1/2 avocado 1-2 eggs whey Isolate

Meal#2: Red meat vegs

Meal#3: Peri-workout nutrition : 6 Indigo-3G 3 Plazma

Meal#4: PWO 1 MAG-10

Meal#5: White meat or fish vegs carbs GDAs

Meal#6: Shake before bed: Raw milk whey Isolate fibers.

Last off season diet was ~3200cal and I was packing fat fast. Now going for this one around 2800-3000cal top.

Thanks

Eric[/quote]

I can’t see your picture, can you try to repost it please.
[/quote]

Sorry about that! Here it should work!

Eric

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Hey Shadow, you mentioned in the comments of your last article that you’ve competed in tested feds (amateur level) and it wasn’t hard to pass the drug tests.

Could you go into a little detail as to how guys are passing these tests? I’ll understand if it’s not info you particularly want to share.[/quote]

I can’t name the show or I know you boys will be online researching.
I had a condom filled with my friends piss sitting in a training bag backstage. Once all of the categories are finished they randomly pick athletes for testing, it’s not like the Olympic athletes who are tested on the spot… I had a good 30min after stage before I was approached. I was the lucky one to get picked (probably because I won) by this time I had already grabbed the urine sample and put it under my balls in the posing trucks.

They led me to a bathroom and insisted on watching until I asked one for a bit of privacy from him staring at me. There were also 5 other guys with me at the same time and as soon as he turned I popped the condom and poured it in the glass with the pin from my competition number which had to be handed in along with the urine sample. I don’t think they’re really trying to catch you there.
[/quote]

You crafty old devil.

What about things like masking agents, diuretics etc. Is there anything like that you can take to fool a test? I’ve heard of guys doing crazy shit like taking birth control pills! Probably just locker room urban myth, but there’s bound to be some idiot out there who’s tried it.

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[quote]Anass wrote:
Thanks for answering my questions! We really appreciate this!
I got 1 more,My gut swolls the f#ck up during the day,I have it for years,I’m diagnosed with IBS said the doctor because they couldn’t find
anything,I have no lactose/gluten or something similar allergy…also no Crohn…I’m 12 weeks out now. If I eat or just drink something my belly is bloated like a 6 months pregnant women,i’m at 9% bodyfat bt my gut tells me 15-ish lol…I’m even ashame 2 go for a swim…haha,my carb sources are: oatmeal,brown rice en brown pasta,apple, for protein just chicken/meat en my whey pwo…I’m carefully with vegetables and diet soda (gas/air) Could I use laxatives 2 clean out my bowels the day before the show or the day itself allong with a diuretic like aldactizine…

thnx man[/quote]

I would try switching the oatmeal and brown rice to less fibrous carbs like white rice, cream of rice or baby oatmeal.

You could also try getting a colonic once a month and it should help a lot.

The day before the show you can try a suppository, but I wouldn’t recommend any oral laxatives.

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[quote]k120 wrote:
Hi Shadow,

I was just wondering how does it work in this industry with the sponsors?

From what I heard, the way it works is that the sponsor pay you for supplements, gear, food while the athlete have to keep his/her mouth shut and lie about the gear use and just promote their products… Does it really work like this?

Also I am sure you heard of the fake natty crews that state they are natural but we all know they aint. I was wondering what shit are they using to be that low bf%, hard and in shape all year round. I mean guys like Sergi Constance, Jaco De Bruyn, Lazar Angelov etc… [/quote]

I’ve never experienced something like this with any of my sponsors over the years and I’ve been very fortunate over the years.

As for denying the juice use… Obviously we don’t walk around on the street talking openly about using illegal drugs, that would be a bad idea for obvious reasons. You don’t ask and we don’t tell… Anyone who is familiar with the industry can see this is quite clear, but for an 80 year old granny it would be quite shocking to hear this.

I honestly don’t have any idea who those guys are that you named, but if you read my article you know how I feel about so called natural bodybuilding.

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[quote]TT Eric wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]TT Eric wrote:
Hi! I would like to jump in the bandwagon and ask your input about my diet!

I’m near 44 y/o, 5’ 9’', natural, I have 13 years of training, 10 years in the 80-90s, did some competitions (as natural) back then, took a 20 years break, started back training in 2011 with a plan to go back on the stage in 2016 with the old farts, still as natural.

Actually 183lbs, LBM around 165lbs, currently dieting (dieting every year to keep good insulin sensibility).

Pic at 186lbs (2 weeks ago):

Here is the diet I have planned after the diet (with a transition time):

Meal#1: Raw milk 1/2-1 cup of berries 1/2 avocado 1-2 eggs whey Isolate

Meal#2: Red meat vegs

Meal#3: Peri-workout nutrition : 6 Indigo-3G 3 Plazma

Meal#4: PWO 1 MAG-10

Meal#5: White meat or fish vegs carbs GDAs

Meal#6: Shake before bed: Raw milk whey Isolate fibers.

Last off season diet was ~3200cal and I was packing fat fast. Now going for this one around 2800-3000cal top.

Thanks

Eric[/quote]

I can’t see your picture, can you try to repost it please.
[/quote]

Sorry about that! Here it should work!

Eric
[/quote]

First of all, I think you look very good for a 44 year old natural athlete from what I can see in this back shot.

If your plan is to gain muscle after the diet, I would definitely add more carbs to this diet. I am not a fan of raw milk, some people like this and I think 1-3 times a week won’t hurt your progress but I definitely wouldn’t recommend to have it daily.

You didn’t write how much meat each meal? something like 6-8oz each meal works well for most people.

-In meal 2 add some carbs, for example: 1\2 cup or 1 cup of rice.
-start day with a MAG-10 shake as soon as you wake up then eat first meal 30min later (1-1.5servings)
-if you do a shake before bed, make sure it’s casein

I’m not sure if you packed on fat quickly in the offseason due to the higher calories or if it due to where the calories were coming from. Maybe the milk and too much fat in general caused this. Look into adding some more carbs in the offseason and lowering the fat.

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[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Hey Shadow, you mentioned in the comments of your last article that you’ve competed in tested feds (amateur level) and it wasn’t hard to pass the drug tests.

Could you go into a little detail as to how guys are passing these tests? I’ll understand if it’s not info you particularly want to share.[/quote]

I can’t name the show or I know you boys will be online researching.
I had a condom filled with my friends piss sitting in a training bag backstage. Once all of the categories are finished they randomly pick athletes for testing, it’s not like the Olympic athletes who are tested on the spot… I had a good 30min after stage before I was approached. I was the lucky one to get picked (probably because I won) by this time I had already grabbed the urine sample and put it under my balls in the posing trucks.

They led me to a bathroom and insisted on watching until I asked one for a bit of privacy from him staring at me. There were also 5 other guys with me at the same time and as soon as he turned I popped the condom and poured it in the glass with the pin from my competition number which had to be handed in along with the urine sample. I don’t think they’re really trying to catch you there.
[/quote]

You crafty old devil.

What about things like masking agents, diuretics etc. Is there anything like that you can take to fool a test? I’ve heard of guys doing crazy shit like taking birth control pills! Probably just locker room urban myth, but there’s bound to be some idiot out there who’s tried it.[/quote]

It really depends on the quality of the test what they are looking for. Taking something like Lasix can mask everything, that would be assuming you don’t get caught for taking the lasix itself.

I’ve also heard the stories about the birth control pills but I don’t know anyone who ever did it…

I know some some Olympic athletes and other high level athletes will go as far as getting blood transfusions prior to testing and other sophisticated and complex methods. No bodybuilder would do something like this… It would cost much more than the $10 trophy they receive.

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Hello there,
I had to start my treatment this morning turinabol to 60mg per day but I just raise transaminase (60 alat) because I have a little treatment, if I take desmodium during its cure is to prevent more damage I need regular.
thank you

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]TT Eric wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]TT Eric wrote:
Hi! I would like to jump in the bandwagon and ask your input about my diet!

I’m near 44 y/o, 5’ 9’', natural, I have 13 years of training, 10 years in the 80-90s, did some competitions (as natural) back then, took a 20 years break, started back training in 2011 with a plan to go back on the stage in 2016 with the old farts, still as natural.

Actually 183lbs, LBM around 165lbs, currently dieting (dieting every year to keep good insulin sensibility).

Pic at 186lbs (2 weeks ago):

Here is the diet I have planned after the diet (with a transition time):

Meal#1: Raw milk 1/2-1 cup of berries 1/2 avocado 1-2 eggs whey Isolate

Meal#2: Red meat vegs

Meal#3: Peri-workout nutrition : 6 Indigo-3G 3 Plazma

Meal#4: PWO 1 MAG-10

Meal#5: White meat or fish vegs carbs GDAs

Meal#6: Shake before bed: Raw milk whey Isolate fibers.

Last off season diet was ~3200cal and I was packing fat fast. Now going for this one around 2800-3000cal top.

Thanks

Eric[/quote]

I can’t see your picture, can you try to repost it please.
[/quote]

Sorry about that! Here it should work!

Eric
[/quote]

First of all, I think you look very good for a 44 year old natural athlete from what I can see in this back shot.

If your plan is to gain muscle after the diet, I would definitely add more carbs to this diet. I am not a fan of raw milk, some people like this and I think 1-3 times a week won’t hurt your progress but I definitely wouldn’t recommend to have it daily.

You didn’t write how much meat each meal? something like 6-8oz each meal works well for most people.

-In meal 2 add some carbs, for example: 1\2 cup or 1 cup of rice.
-start day with a MAG-10 shake as soon as you wake up then eat first meal 30min later (1-1.5servings)
-if you do a shake before bed, make sure it’s casein

I’m not sure if you packed on fat quickly in the offseason due to the higher calories or if it due to where the calories were coming from. Maybe the milk and too much fat in general caused this. Look into adding some more carbs in the offseason and lowering the fat.

[/quote]

Thank you for the compliment, it’s very nice of you! I train very hard, very brutal.

Yes meat is usually around 200g portion.

The diet I used for the 2 last years was relatively low carbs since we have hypercholesterolemia in the family, many relatives are dead young (heart attack at 28, 30, 42, 55, etc…), Doctor said I had probably one of the highest level of cholesterol in Canada in my age group (was 19). So I try to control arterial inflammation and keep carb at bay.

Last 2 years diet was 175-200g carbs per day, mostly all PWO, basically wanted to keep insulin low during training to enjoy the maximum GH production and had most of my carbs PWO since insulin sensibility was at it’s highest and would result in less arterial inflammation. Reading you, convinced me to try a higher carb protocol peri-workout, having carbs before and during training should help and I’m pretty sure insulin sensibility would still be high during this period so I should be ok for inflammation. But this is why I did not include carbs in meal #2 and I’m kind of reticent to add some more out of the peri-workout area.

You are also probably right on why I was packing fat, since I was not eating lots of carbs, I had more fats in my meals. Raw milk might also not help (this diet include half of what I was drinking before).

Thanks

Eric

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Shadow,
Have you ever used EPO? On social media Mike Quinn said he used EPO one year along with GH and he added about 30lbs of stage weight. He said the combination made him grow so fast it actually scared him.

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hey shadow, yu may or may not have answered this Q but there is so much traffic that can’t really look through it all. if yu could take the time to read, it be much appreciated.

so I’m 29 years old i just finished my first 12 week cycle of SUS 250 @ 1cc 2x wk as well as deca 300 mg 1x a wk. i had fantastic gains and was shredded as well, my start out weight was 170lbs at the end of my 12 weeks i was at 210lbs. being that it was my first cycle ever, i didn’t know that yu can’t just stop w/o taking any orals. it has been 9 weeks since my last injection and i have still been very active with my gym workouts, but i shrunk down to 185lbs and still shrinking.

i am about to start a cycle of sus and tren E at the end of august, i hope yu could give me so info to where i don’t lose all of my gains like i did my first cycle. money isn’t an issue and i have a very promising conection to nearly anything. can yu help me with some guidelines so this doesn’t happen again?

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Hi Shadow Pro. I am 15 Weeks Out from competition and wanted to post my cycle here along with my diet to get your take on things.

Stats:
219.5 lbs
5’9"
12% bodyfat
Training experience: 17 Years have been coached previously by another IFBB pro

Goal: Win Light Heavy Weight at my contest and Overall

Diet:

First Meal
40g protein from Extra Lean Ground Beef and 40g fats from coconut oil veggies with all meals (Multi, Vitamin C, Cla, DIM, NAC, LiverCare)

Second Meal
50g protein from Extra Lean Ground Bison and 50g carbs from Brown Rice Pasta 5g fish oil

Pre-Workout Meal
1/4 cup organic cream of brown rice 1 medium apple 2 scoops whey protein (Multi, Probiotic, Zinc)

Intra-Workout:
150g Carbs from Karbolyn, 50grams protein from Hydrolyzed Casinate (Would you Add BCAA’s here if you were not doing hydrolyzed casinate?) Post Workout 50grams Whey Protein Isolate with Greens.

Post Workout Meal:
2 cups White Rice 6oz Extra Lean Ground Bison 30grams Whey protein isolate

Last Meal:
8oz Ground Turkey Breast (homemade burger in lettuce wrap) 1 TBSP Avacado Oil

Non Training Days:
I take out the Intra/Post Workout Shake. I divide the Post Workout Meal into 2 Whole Food Meals instead.

Cycle: (GH Genevatropin and Saizen 6-8iu/day) T3. 12.5mcg to start Clen/ECA 2 on 1 off 2 on 2 off. 250iu hcg 2x/week, aromasin 12.5mg daily
15 Weeks out: 600mg test 2x/week, 300 deca 2x/week anadrol 50mg preworkout
14 Weeks out: up Deca to 450mg
13 Weeks out: up Test to 800mg
12 Weeks out: 50mg winstrol/day 50mg proviron/day Take out anadrol
11 Weeks out: Add 5iu slin pre like you suggested
10 Weeks out: Add 100mg Mast Prop EOD
9 Weeks out: Same
8 Weeks out: Take out Deca, Add in EQ, Start 100mg Tren Ace EOD
7 Weeks out: Take out long acting test switch to 150mg Test Prop EOD
6 Weeks out: 50mg Test Suspension preworkout 20mg halo daily, 25mg anadrol daily, (50mg anavar daily or 50mg primo ace daily or both) Your Take on this oral protocol please.
5 Weeks out: tren mast 150mg now. Aromasin 25mg proviron 100mg winstrol 75mg
4 Weeks out: Stop Humalog
3 Weeks out: tren and mast 200mg
2 Weeks out: same
1 Weeks out: see what’s happening.

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[quote]TT Eric wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]TT Eric wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]TT Eric wrote:
Hi! I would like to jump in the bandwagon and ask your input about my diet!

I’m near 44 y/o, 5’ 9’', natural, I have 13 years of training, 10 years in the 80-90s, did some competitions (as natural) back then, took a 20 years break, started back training in 2011 with a plan to go back on the stage in 2016 with the old farts, still as natural.

Actually 183lbs, LBM around 165lbs, currently dieting (dieting every year to keep good insulin sensibility).

Pic at 186lbs (2 weeks ago):

Here is the diet I have planned after the diet (with a transition time):

Meal#1: Raw milk 1/2-1 cup of berries 1/2 avocado 1-2 eggs whey Isolate

Meal#2: Red meat vegs

Meal#3: Peri-workout nutrition : 6 Indigo-3G 3 Plazma

Meal#4: PWO 1 MAG-10

Meal#5: White meat or fish vegs carbs GDAs

Meal#6: Shake before bed: Raw milk whey Isolate fibers.

Last off season diet was ~3200cal and I was packing fat fast. Now going for this one around 2800-3000cal top.

Thanks

Eric[/quote]

I can’t see your picture, can you try to repost it please.
[/quote]

Sorry about that! Here it should work!

Eric
[/quote]

First of all, I think you look very good for a 44 year old natural athlete from what I can see in this back shot.

If your plan is to gain muscle after the diet, I would definitely add more carbs to this diet. I am not a fan of raw milk, some people like this and I think 1-3 times a week won’t hurt your progress but I definitely wouldn’t recommend to have it daily.

You didn’t write how much meat each meal? something like 6-8oz each meal works well for most people.

-In meal 2 add some carbs, for example: 1\2 cup or 1 cup of rice.
-start day with a MAG-10 shake as soon as you wake up then eat first meal 30min later (1-1.5servings)
-if you do a shake before bed, make sure it’s casein

I’m not sure if you packed on fat quickly in the offseason due to the higher calories or if it due to where the calories were coming from. Maybe the milk and too much fat in general caused this. Look into adding some more carbs in the offseason and lowering the fat.

[/quote]

Thank you for the compliment, it’s very nice of you! I train very hard, very brutal.

Yes meat is usually around 200g portion.

The diet I used for the 2 last years was relatively low carbs since we have hypercholesterolemia in the family, many relatives are dead young (heart attack at 28, 30, 42, 55, etc…), Doctor said I had probably one of the highest level of cholesterol in Canada in my age group (was 19). So I try to control arterial inflammation and keep carb at bay.

Last 2 years diet was 175-200g carbs per day, mostly all PWO, basically wanted to keep insulin low during training to enjoy the maximum GH production and had most of my carbs PWO since insulin sensibility was at it’s highest and would result in less arterial inflammation. Reading you, convinced me to try a higher carb protocol peri-workout, having carbs before and during training should help and I’m pretty sure insulin sensibility would still be high during this period so I should be ok for inflammation. But this is why I did not include carbs in meal #2 and I’m kind of reticent to add some more out of the peri-workout area.

You are also probably right on why I was packing fat, since I was not eating lots of carbs, I had more fats in my meals. Raw milk might also not help (this diet include half of what I was drinking before).

Thanks

Eric[/quote]

Well, you figured it out yourself my friend… If you drank twice as much as you wrote then that would definitely be the reason. If you don’t want to add carbs in meal 2 then add an extra 1/2 scoop or 1 scoop to your Plazma.

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[quote]Tweeder wrote:
Shadow,
Have you ever used EPO? On social media Mike Quinn said he used EPO one year along with GH and he added about 30lbs of stage weight. He said the combination made him grow so fast it actually scared him.[/quote]

No I haven’t tried EPO before and I’ve never heard of any other top guys using it. But…we don’t all sit in a friendly circle and discuss what we do, so it could be something!