Shadow Pro Q&A 2.0

[quote]k120 wrote:
Wow, thank you so much for this great answer. Aint nothing better than waking up and reading this. Now I am motivated even more!

As for the Plazma. There is no way I can get it here in Czech Republic, so I guess I will just order it from US. But to be clear, is it this one?

ndfitness.com.au/product/plasma-blast-pre-intra-post-workout/

I have never tried drinking carbs during the workout, so I will definetely give it a try. But the best way I was able to get the most from my workouts is training fasted first thing in the morning and then on a empty stomach in the evening. I have so much more energy during trainings and it also gave me the benefit to burn more fat … Every time I ate carbs before training, I literally felt like sleeping and my training sucked big time.

As for the twice a day training. I will be honest, I train like this for about a year now. The only time I wasnt was when I was dieting for the show.

Every one tells me it is bullshit to train so much and so on, but I am just obsessed. I just love the way I live. Wake up, train, eat, eat, train, eat, sleep.

There cannot be nothing wrong with it when I still have good workouts and I dont feel overtrained, right?. I take 1-2 days off every 10 days and basically eat what ever I want because I am in slight caloric deficit every day I train. I usually even do HIIT after morning sessions.

I am a believer that your body can adapt to anything you put it through. So if my body still gives me good results from twice a day training, why not continue?

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It’s not smart to train fasted, your body needs these specific carbs and protein to perform better and recover faster. There’s nothing comparable to it, so you’d have to order it from here… Plazma™ Brutal Workout Formula for Enhanced Growth & Recovery – T Nation Biotest

If you want to train twice a day, year round it might be possible but you need to use a periodization method in terms of volume and intensity. Your food intake would have to be much higher if you want to grow. As I mentioned before I would recommend to take the one day off each week for recovery… Go to the sauna, hot tub, physical therapy in the pool, just something different than the rest of the week.

Yes, your body can adapt to a lot but there is a limit at some point. You want to protect yourself from injury and taking one day off a week won’t hurt your progress, it will help you.

[quote]Warner wrote:
Hi Shadow, just finished reading your article “How Natural Is Natural Bodybuilding”…RESPECT!!! Its about damn time someone starts telling it like it is…keep up the good work!

Quick question on the Myostatin Inhibitors you mentioned, any good supplements you know of that will do the trick?..lets call them natural substances shall we… hahahahaha?
I have skimmed some articles and it seems a bit conflicting whether any of the supplements that claim to do it actually work.
If the supplements dont cut it could you provide some info on what drugs or protocols would? [/quote]

There’s no natural product that will do this trick. There were some products on the market years ago and they actually worked but they aren’t available anymore.

Some people just have friends in the right places to find supplements/drugs to mimic this effect. Look hard and you might find some pretty interesting things out there.

[quote]thezukiman wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]thezukiman wrote:
Ok Mr. Shadow Pro�?�¢?�?�¦I�?�¢??ve been lurking in the bushes long enough!lol!

I need our opinion on something I experienced a few years back. I tried my first cycle about 2 years ago now. It was simple and from a good �?�¢??source�?�¢?? (keyword included there�?�¢?�?�¦). It was two compounds Test E and D-Bol. The Test E was EOD and the D-Bol was to be taken daily 2 times/ED I think. I believe I was set to run this 12-16wks can�?�¢??t exactly remember and it makes no difference here.

I took the D-Bol first thing in the morning then took my first shot before lunch (a few hours before gym time). Right after the shot my heart started racing, I started sweating a bit and felt somewhat light-headed. That evening and night my heart never slowed down and I had trouble sleeping. The next day at lunch I felt a lot of pressure in my chest and it was like something heavy was sitting on it. I occasionally got pain down my left arm too. I began researching injections gone bad and probably made things worse�?�¢?�?�¦I was convinced I had an embolism! That night was no better and as I lay down for bed it felt as if my heart was palpating and was definitely in overdrive as I had my wife take a listen too. I felt like I do when working out�?�¢?�?�¦only 24/7! I went to the ER b/c I was very worried. The EKG was normal�?�¢?�?�¦my BP was quite high and my pulse was high as well. They gave me fluids and some meds to calm me down and watched me until my heart rate went down a bit. I never took my next shot and threw the stuff out thinking they gave me speed or something instead of roids!lol!

I have a history of bipolar disorder and depression in my family if that makes any difference. I also have had a few �?�¢??tight chest�?�¢?? episodes since then�?�¢?�?�¦and have considered having my heart thoroughly checked out (I think it might just be panic attacks b/c a few of my family members have these often). Do some people just not respond well to certain compounds or the roids in general? Maybe you know ppl who have had �?�¢??issues�?�¢?? with the standard compounds and there is something else you could recommend??

Thanks and your stuff has been interesting to read!

-Z
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Sorry to hear about your bad experience.

I would assume it’s very unlikely that it has any relation to the juice, you mentioned it’s a reliable source so it would be extremely rare to experience something of this nature with just test and dbol. These are two of the most common drugs out there with usually minimal side effects so if you don’t have any specific allergy to these substances I would agree that it is probably a panic attack or something to do with mental/physical health.

Other compounds you might want to try that are very gentle would be masteron, primobolan or anavar and maybe try a short ester like Test-P incase you do have some kind of issue with test, this way the substance is in and out of you quickly.

I really doubt it’s a juice issue, but hearing your family history of bipolar and depression I would recommend to stay away from tren, halotestin and Anadrol. Eq can also cause anxiety in some people so you might want to avoid this as well.
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Don’t mind the above post…I screwed it up!

Thanks for the prompt and thorough response.

You are likely right as I also doubt it was either of the substances which caused my issues. It seems that even low doses of steroids have always produced a big effect on me (and others in my family might be genetics?). Those little steroid packs you get from the doc when trying to fight off a cold or whatnot even make me irritable and make my dad wanna rip someone�?�¢??s head off! lol! Also, the injections you get in the office for a cold (usually followed by antibiotic shot) also make me feel much more energetic (in a good way).

The shorter ester might be a good option that I have never considered, the only downside would probably be pinning ED. One compound I didn’t see you mention was Decca (not sure if it’s a bad choice b/c of my “craziness”)
Based on the “safer” compounds you listed any way you could recommend a stack or two for my first cycle with PCT (if not too much trouble)? My main goal is size gains, but I also wish to get stronger. In the future I want to compete in both bodybuilding and powerlifting at least once or twice a year.

Thanks.
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It sounds like you are very sensitive to drugs in general. Deca isn’t supposed to have any major effect on your mood or mental state so it could work for you.

You could try something like this for mass gaining…

Test-P @ 75mg eod
Deca or NPP (NPP is shorter version) 200-300mg/week
Oral Tbol. 30-40mg/day

Since you’ve never done a cycle before, start VERY low. And use nolva and HCG during the cycle.

For cutting you could try something like this…

Test-P @ 75mg eod
masteron-p @ 75mg eod
Anavar @ 60mg/day

You could also replace the masteron with primo here if you want.

Both of these are very gentle cycles to start with…

Usually my workouts are between 2.5-3hours depending on the bodypart, as long as you’re drinking it you won’t go catabolic so I’m allowing myself to do more work. My workouts were much shorter before I started using this(1-1.5hrs) and I’ve made significant improvements since then.

Increase your Plazma gradually to avoid getting at upset stomach.

You can move the finibars to 90min preworkout and you shouldn’t feel so sluggish.

I don´t know whether this question has been answered or not but. Myostatin inhibitors are already on the market, how reliable are they, pros, cons. If they are already available. What are they called on the market (product)? I suppose they are already being used by the pros, right ?!

I know there have been a lot of questions about insulin but what do you think abote this sheme: 20 days of insulin (only be taking on training days before the workout, five days a week, mo - fr) then one week complete off, that leads to the said 20 days of insulin use and 17 days off. Then repeating this sheme again for as much time as I want.

Cheers

[quote]michell wrote:
Shadow,

I have a doubt how to manipulate diet or use some tools for legs. Look at them, difficult to peel. What should I consider?

  • Insulin even from Plazma can affect the ratio to get them lean
  • Distribution adrenoreceptors 2 alpha
  • Estrogen dominance

How would you manipulate nutrition or gear?

Thanks

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I think you’re making it more complicated than it is. I think you need to just lose more bodyfat in general. You could try increasing the anti-estrogens and increase your cardio.

I doubt it’s the insulin because your upper body is very lean and it would effect your whole body and not just your legs.

From a training point of view, you can add 2 days of leg circuits each week on different days than your regular leg training day. Nothing heavy but just enough to bring blood to the area. The extra stimulation might help.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]k120 wrote:
Hi Shadow,

First of all I gotta say that this is just amazing, having free answers from someone like you. As I have been reading the previous thread and looking for my answers I didnt find one, so I have couple of questions to ask.

Just want to let you know that I am not a native english speaker, I only study british university so my vocabulary is not that wide and it might be harder to understand my questions…

Just to let you know something abt my background.

I 21yo from Czech Republic and been training for about 4-5 years naturally. 2 months ago I tried my first competition and ended up 3rd, which is in my eyes success for a first show. But the reason why I am really here is to ask you questions about different approaches to eating while taking into consideration the body type which is in my case Mesomorph… My body have tendency to gain and lose weight very quickly.

So my first question is:

1.) What would be the best approach to eating due to your experience for someone like me? (Low fat, high carb or vise versa).

Also I am still wondering how is it with the glycemic index. I found that the best results in my physique are by eating low-glycemic carbs(harder muscles, gaining lean muscle while losing fat) but when I eat white rice and generally high glycemic carbs I am soft and bloated the next day.

2.) My muscles responds very well to twice a day training. I have made insane results by training twice a day the same muscle group and eating carbs only post workout and I can go 7 days in a row without overtraining only with 200-300g carbs a day.

My question is, should I stick to this if it works for me better than anything else even though I eat only 3 meals a day? And Does it really matter how many times a day I eat as longest I hit my macros?

  1. After my first show I realized that there is a huge competition and that being natural in this sport is just a joke.

So what would be the best FIRST cycle for someone like me who is training 4+ years? I did a lot of research last year and found that the best cycle would be just 250mg of TST E + Proviron? Any suggestions?

  1. What is the best approach to do cycles for the most benefits(healthy also). For example is it better to do two cycles/year, one while bulking and second while dieting. Or is it better to be just off in the off season and basically do a cycle before the show and just grow into the show?

  2. Most important one. Do I have the genetics to be good in the future?

The first four pictures are from diet the last two from short off season.

I lost shit load of muscle in the diet. My coach got me doing 3 month of diet with 0g fat. I still dont have my testosterone levels back :confused: :smiley:
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You look great and you’re doing very well for your age. It’s nice to see someone who is training hard and motivated to do well.

  1. I would definitely go with high carbs and low fat approach. Protein at roughly 1.5g/lb is a good starting point. As for the type of carbs to eat (low or high glycemic index) the most important thing is the timing for eating these carbs. High GI carbs would be the most beneficial pre, intra and post workout. The rest of the day low GI carbs will be better.

Intraworkout carbs should be your staple. Plazma is your best friend here and the majority of your daily carbs should come from this.

  1. 2x/day training is good but you can’t do it all the time. Something like 4-6 weeks of two-a-days and then back off to once a day for 6 weeks would be a good starting point.

I would take at least 1 day off each week for active recovery. Massage, physical therapy etc.

For someone who wants to take bodybuilding seriously would never eat just 3 times a day. You need to eat every 3 hours and just meeting your macros is not going to cut it… Meal timing is everything. Get used to eating 5-7 times/day. Start educating yourself about the intraworkout nutrition, just by adding this you will add new muscle… I’m sure you’ve read my speeches about Plazma on here already. Also, having MAG-10 first thing in the morning and post workout will be a great benefit for your physique and recovery time.

Judging by your pictures I would suggest that you can eat more than 300g of carbs per day so start slowly building it up and have at least 100-150g of carbs from Plazma during the workout and the rest spread throughout the day.

  1. This is not a bad idea for a first cycle. Just make sure you’re doing a good pct after and take HCG @ 250iu 2x/week. I would also suggest adding 40mg of anavar everyday (optional) and there’s no need for the Proviron in your first cycle, the HCG will be fine. You can keep nolvadex in hand just incase you need it during the cycle, or play it safe and take 10mg everyday (optional)

I think you look very good naturally, you still have lots of potential to improve before starting a cycle. I think you can make some big progress just from changing your diet and supplementation. Waiting a year could be very beneficial for you to perfect your diet and make another jump before starting juice, you waited this long so one more year won’t kill you if you are thinking long term. Micro-PA and Plazma are an amazing tool for growth and strength and you’ll be surprised what you can still do.

  1. When you start cycling I think that 2 cycles a year would be a better approach. A gaining cycle followed by a good pct and then try to keep as much of the gains as you can and then go on a cutting cycle to get as ripped as you can leading up to the show without losing muscle. When you are just starting it’s better to do it in stages rather than mixing them.

  2. You definitely have great potential. If you’ll be consistent you can be a lot better than what you are now, you need to take your time and set small goals to conquer every time. Best advice I can give is not to rush things, this is a sport where you want longevity… No drugs will make you mr.olympia in 3 years (contrary to popular belief ;))
    How good you’ll be in the future also depends on your competitors, there’s always genetic freaks out there. Do the sport because you love it, not for the placing. You need to love to look like this and love the lifestyle without chasing a placing otherwise you’ll be set up for disappointment, this will always be a subjective sport and the judging doesn’t always fall in your favor.

Keep training hard and let me know if you have anymore questions. You’re doing great![/quote]

this was an awesome post, very motivating

not even directed towards me in particular but makes me excited for the future and the new protocol i got from you, thanks again for all the help shadow!

Hey shadow you mentioned myostatin inhibitors as something used to make more gains above and beyond just steroids hgh etc. What ones do you recommend? Do you believe any of the research companies bodybuilders go to buy them are legitimate? Also what kind of gains can you expect using them along with aas and at what dosages?

[quote]SmileyRiley1994 wrote:
Hey shadow you mentioned myostatin inhibitors as something used to make more gains above and beyond just steroids hgh etc. What ones do you recommend? Do you believe any of the research companies bodybuilders go to buy them are legitimate? Also what kind of gains can you expect using them along with aas and at what dosages?[/quote]

Take the effort to at least read a few posts back to see if your question has been answered… which it has, on this very same page:

"There’s no natural product that will do this trick. There were some products on the market years ago and they actually worked but they aren’t available anymore.

Some people just have friends in the right places to find supplements/drugs to mimic this effect. Look hard and you might find some pretty interesting things out there. "

Shadow, do Myostatin Inhibitors play an important role in the professional bodybuilders arsenal of products?
Is it something you guys would use year round for example or only for certain periods during the year?
Are the chemicals that give you the effect of Myostatin Inhibition dangerous, iow could their use cause serious damage to your system in some way?
Would one use the products long term?

What sort of gains would one get from this sort of inhibition, is it similar to juice?
Are the gains “permanent” iow most of it can be kept with propper diet, training and supplementation after getting off the chemicals?
Can you use them as a stand alone or is it only suitable on cycle.

Curious as to know if you had any contact with Nasser El Sonbaty? The media made it out that steriods effectively lead to his untimely death…do you have any thoughts to share?

Hello Shadow Pro

1st time poster here. My question is what can you recommend for quad sweep development?
Best exercise, feet position etc.

I have ok wheels, not as big as they need to be in comparison to my upper body and I would really like to get more of a sweep out of them.

Here is a leg workout I use for 1 week and the next I will switch out for Wide Stance Leg press, Hack Squats and Leg Extensions and drop Squats, Lunges and Stiff Leg Deads.

Exercise Sets Reps
Tri-Set
Toe Press 4 12-20
Standing Calf Raises (machine) 4 12-20
Standing Calf Raises (just bodyweight) 4 maximum

Lying Leg Curls 5 (1 warm-up) 12-15
Reverse Leg Curles (with stability ball) 3 12-15
Stiff Leg Deadlifts 4 12-15
Squats 5 (1 warm-up) 10-15

Super Set
Leg Press 5 12-20
Walking lunges 5 maximum

Thanks in advance.

Hi! I would like to jump in the bandwagon and ask your input about my diet!

I’m near 44 y/o, 5’ 9’', natural, I have 13 years of training, 10 in the 80-90s competitions (as natural), took a 20 years break, started back in 2011 with a plan to go back on the stage in around 2016 with the old farts still natural.

Currently 183lbs, LBM around 165lbs, currently dieting (dieting every year to keep good insulin sensibility).

Pic at 186lbs (2 weeks ago):

Here is the diet I have planned after the diet (with a transition time):

Meal#1: Raw milk 1/2-1 cup of berries 1/2 avocado 1-2 eggs whey Isolate

Meal#2: Red meat vegs

Meal#3: Peri-workout nutrition : 6 Indigo-3G 3 Plazma

Meal#4: PWO 1 MAG-10

Meal#5: White meat or fish vegs carbs GDAs

Meal#6: Shake before bed: Raw milk whey Isolate fibers.

Less off season diet was ~3200cal and I was packing fat fast. Now going for 2800-3000cal top.

Thanks

Eric

Hey Shadow, you mentioned in the comments of your last article that you’ve competed in tested feds (amateur level) and it wasn’t hard to pass the drug tests.

Could you go into a little detail as to how guys are passing these tests? I’ll understand if it’s not info you particularly want to share.

Is EQ even worth the buy
I know alot of people in my gym who have used it up to 600mg a week
and they said all it did was make them hungry and increase BP
I have about 20 vials on me was wondering if i should throw it in my bulking cycle in sept

same with Tbol I have used Dbol before, was wonder if I can pack on mass like I did with Dbol just without the bloat.

Was thinking of running

750 mg Test E
900 EQ
Kickstarted with 50mg Tbol

[quote]bodyculture wrote:
I don�´t know whether this question has been answered or not but. Myostatin inhibitors are already on the market, how reliable are they, pros, cons. If they are already available. What are they called on the market (product)? I suppose they are already being used by the pros, right ?!

I know there have been a lot of questions about insulin but what do you think abote this sheme: 20 days of insulin (only be taking on training days before the workout, five days a week, mo - fr) then one week complete off, that leads to the said 20 days of insulin use and 17 days off. Then repeating this sheme again for as much time as I want.

Cheers[/quote]

Myostatin inhibitors are out there, it’s hard to find anything reliable. If you know the right people then you can get some experimental stuff that actually works. Some of us are like guinea pigs here as these substances are very experimental and there’s not enough research and studies done in order to give full answers as to how effective it is. The results are promising.

You’re not going to wake up one day looking like the muscular cow but it will give you a definite push in muscle gains. It’s very rare to find the stuff that actually works, you likely won’t find anything helpful on the peptide sites.

As for the insulin, what you mentioned will work fine. It might be more effective to take a week off every 6 weeks.

[quote]rhod wrote:

[quote]SmileyRiley1994 wrote:
Hey shadow you mentioned myostatin inhibitors as something used to make more gains above and beyond just steroids hgh etc. What ones do you recommend? Do you believe any of the research companies bodybuilders go to buy them are legitimate? Also what kind of gains can you expect using them along with aas and at what dosages?[/quote]

Take the effort to at least read a few posts back to see if your question has been answered… which it has, on this very same page:

"There’s no natural product that will do this trick. There were some products on the market years ago and they actually worked but they aren’t available anymore.

Some people just have friends in the right places to find supplements/drugs to mimic this effect. Look hard and you might find some pretty interesting things out there. "[/quote]

Thank you

[quote]Warner wrote:
Shadow, do Myostatin Inhibitors play an important role in the professional bodybuilders arsenal of products?
Is it something you guys would use year round for example or only for certain periods during the year?
Are the chemicals that give you the effect of Myostatin Inhibition dangerous, iow could their use cause serious damage to your system in some way?
Would one use the products long term?

What sort of gains would one get from this sort of inhibition, is it similar to juice?
Are the gains “permanent” iow most of it can be kept with propper diet, training and supplementation after getting off the chemicals?
Can you use them as a stand alone or is it only suitable on cycle.

Curious as to know if you had any contact with Nasser El Sonbaty? The media made it out that steriods effectively lead to his untimely death…do you have any thoughts to share?
[/quote]

They play a role, but I wouldn’t say an important role. I am only using these certain periods of the year(if I have something reliable at the time) there’s not enough research at this point to know if it causes any long term damage… So far, so good!

I don’t know about using it long term, for now I’m just experimenting but it seems to work. In terms of gains it would be similar to juice and the gains seem to stay even when you go off it. I’ve never used it as a stand alone, so I can’t answer that.

I heard the stories about Nassar, I don’t know if it was available in his time and from what I heard it was some kind of kidney issue but it’s all hear-say.

[quote]c17flyer wrote:
Hello Shadow Pro

1st time poster here. My question is what can you recommend for quad sweep development?
Best exercise, feet position etc.

I have ok wheels, not as big as they need to be in comparison to my upper body and I would really like to get more of a sweep out of them.

Here is a leg workout I use for 1 week and the next I will switch out for Wide Stance Leg press, Hack Squats and Leg Extensions and drop Squats, Lunges and Stiff Leg Deads.

Exercise Sets Reps
Tri-Set
Toe Press 4 12-20
Standing Calf Raises (machine) 4 12-20
Standing Calf Raises (just bodyweight) 4 maximum

Lying Leg Curls 5 (1 warm-up) 12-15
Reverse Leg Curles (with stability ball) 3 12-15
Stiff Leg Deadlifts 4 12-15
Squats 5 (1 warm-up) 10-15

Super Set
Leg Press 5 12-20
Walking lunges 5 maximum

Thanks in advance.[/quote]

I don’t think there’s a specific exercise for quad sweep. Just a lot of variety as well as heavy squats in various rep ranges will do the trick.

Your circuits look good… I hope you are doing a heavy compound exercise by itself before going into circuits. For example: start with heavy front or back squats and then go into your circuit

[quote]TT Eric wrote:
Hi! I would like to jump in the bandwagon and ask your input about my diet!

I’m near 44 y/o, 5’ 9’', natural, I have 13 years of training, 10 in the 80-90s competitions (as natural), took a 20 years break, started back in 2011 with a plan to go back on the stage in around 2016 with the old farts still natural.

Currently 183lbs, LBM around 165lbs, currently dieting (dieting every year to keep good insulin sensibility).

Pic at 186lbs (2 weeks ago):

Here is the diet I have planned after the diet (with a transition time):

Meal#1: Raw milk 1/2-1 cup of berries 1/2 avocado 1-2 eggs whey Isolate

Meal#2: Red meat vegs

Meal#3: Peri-workout nutrition : 6 Indigo-3G 3 Plazma

Meal#4: PWO 1 MAG-10

Meal#5: White meat or fish vegs carbs GDAs

Meal#6: Shake before bed: Raw milk whey Isolate fibers.

Less off season diet was ~3200cal and I was packing fat fast. Now going for 2800-3000cal top.

Thanks

Eric[/quote]

I can’t see your picture, can you try to repost it please.

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Hey Shadow, you mentioned in the comments of your last article that you’ve competed in tested feds (amateur level) and it wasn’t hard to pass the drug tests.

Could you go into a little detail as to how guys are passing these tests? I’ll understand if it’s not info you particularly want to share.[/quote]

I can’t name the show or I know you boys will be online researching.
I had a condom filled with my friends piss sitting in a training bag backstage. Once all of the categories are finished they randomly pick athletes for testing, it’s not like the Olympic athletes who are tested on the spot… I had a good 30min after stage before I was approached. I was the lucky one to get picked (probably because I won) by this time I had already grabbed the urine sample and put it under my balls in the posing trucks.

They led me to a bathroom and insisted on watching until I asked one for a bit of privacy from him staring at me. There were also 5 other guys with me at the same time and as soon as he turned I popped the condom and poured it in the glass with the pin from my competition number which had to be handed in along with the urine sample. I don’t think they’re really trying to catch you there.