[quote]BusterTanner100 wrote:
Hey Shadow
Just a query about HCG/nolva, is there any reason my workouts would get sucky from taking either of these two? Mojo in the gym was great Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, started them Tuesday… Wednesday half as good and today was shocking
Cheers mate [/quote]
No, it shouldn’t have any effect on your training.
[quote]Anass wrote:
Hi Shadow Pro…
I got my bloodwork today here in Belgium and it’s pretty fucked up…I’m 23 years old and I’m blasting and cruising for 8 months.I started yesterday with my blast and also 16 week contest prep cycle 500mg Test - 300mg NPP-600mg BOLD-1000iu hcg-60mg T-BOL…Today I had my bloodwork from my doctor,cholesterol and liver were a bit fucked 2.Anyway my andro work:
G Y N E C O - A N D R O L O G I E
.LH * <0.1 1.5 - 9.3 U/L
.FSH * <0.3 2.0 - 7.5 U/L
.PROLACTINE totaal 8.2 2.1 - 17.7 ng/mL
.OESTRADIOL 16 0 - 40 ng/L
.TESTOSTERON * >15.0 2.8 - 11.0 ng/mL
.SHBG * 0.10 0.41 - 1.98 µg/dL
I’m really sad lol,Allot of thoughts are going thru my mind…should I stop and have a agressive pct,should I continue and do my show in november and then having a big pct and long ass recovery time,pct en stop taking AAS for life … pff 
Liver:
GOT (AST) 37°C * 67 < 35 U/L
.GPT (ALT) 37°C * 48 < 45 U/L
.RATIO GOT/GPT 1.4 Ratio
.GAMMA-GT 37°C 16 < 55 U/L
.RATIO GAMMA-GT/GOT 0.2 Ratio
Cholesterol
HDL-CHOLESTEROL * 23 > 40 mg/dL
.RATIO CHOL/HDL * 5.6 < 5.0 Ratio
.TRIGLYCERIDEN 46 < 150 mg/dL
.LDL-CHOLESTEROL 98 * cfr Ref.infra mg/dL
[norms ]
[average: < 115 ]
[High risk : < 100 ]
[Very high riskt: < 70 of -50%]
.NON-HDL CHOLESTEROL 107 * cfr Ref.infra mg/dL
[ norms: ]
[with high risks: < 130 ]
[with really high risks: < 100 ]
.RATIO LDL/HDL * 4.3 < 3 Ratio
CREATINE KINASE 37°C ** 1901 55 - 170 U/L
.[/quote]
This is very concerning considering that you are only 23 years old. I am not a doctor but I would suggest you do a pct and back off until your health is in a better place. You are very young and have a lot of other shows to choose from in the future but your health should come first.
[quote]Warner wrote:
Hi Shadow, so is it safe to assume you will be competing in this years Olympia?
And will we ever see a Flex magazine cover that reads …Shadow Pro wins Mr O…again! 
Got a supplement related question for you.
My gym results in the last couple of years have been rather poor and I feel that a big reason is my lack of proper peri workout supplementation. I am here to learn and was hoping you could just outline for me and others who also don’t understand this concept entirely, what one should be taking, when and why?
I know you hold the Biotest products in high esteem but trust me, if I had to import these products to South Africa (with the shit exchange rate here) I am gonna have to get a second job just for my supplement costs.
I was hoping you could give a “non-branded” type description of what a person should be buying and using in that pre - during workout - and post workout window.
So for example say you need a whey protein product but go for an isolate and use it say post workout along with .??..something like that.
Then I can take that info and head down to a local supplement retailer and see what I can get that closely matches your description to sort out my peri workout supplement needs?
I also would like to know how supplements like creatine and L-Glutamine play a role here. (I noticed the other day that you get all these different types of creatine on the market, is mono still the most effective choice?)
Many thanks and its great being able to communicate with someone knowledgeable instead of the 19 year old pencil neck supplements salesman who thinks he knows everything down at the local store.[/quote]
I will be there! Who knows, maybe you’ll see this magazine one day…
I can’t recommend any other company or substitute. It’s the only company that actually delivers, there’s so much shit out there and a huge waste of money for the most part. I will say it a million times over and over that there is no substitute for this, no company makes anything similar and I’ve tried everything. I still suggest to save your money and bite the bullet just to try the Plazma, you can’t replace this.
If it was just that easy to get the ingredients and make your own then everyone would do it… I don’t work in a lab producing world class supplements so I can’t give you a formula but I can tell you that my body is very important to me so I want to fuel it with the most quality nutrients possible so I make my choices wisely.
Hey Shadow Pro… I know you have been answering a lot of questions and might not remember my case, but to make a long story short, I was thinking about running a cycle with TEST-C (@200mg/week) with CLOMID (@25mg a day) and maybe throw some HUMALOG (starting with 5IU 15min before wkt).
After reading all your answers regarding cycle/doses/PCT/etc. I decided to leave the CLOMID for my PCT, keep the NOLVA (@10mg/day) I am taking right now with Alpha Male and add some HCG (@250IU 3x week) during my 10 week cycle.
It would look like this:
10 WEEKS
200mg TEST-C/week
10mg NOLVA/day
250IU HCG/3xweek
I do have some questions about HCG use and whether or not I should use HUMALOG with the BF I am right now (I attached a pictured from last weekend)
I keep reading different answers regarding HCG storage. I read you have just answered to steelk that keeping HCG mixed with bac water may last for 30 days in the refrigerator… my problem is that mine comes with preservative free normal saline to dissolve in… For how long it would last this way? I have acess to CHORIOMON 5000IU (pharmacy) here in Brazil, and my idea was to split it in 20 syringes containing 250IU each and take it every mon-wed-fri during my 10 week cycle.
Should I take the HCG IM or Subq? What is the difference regarding results, absorption, etc? Should I use an insulin pin for both or with IM I shall use a regular needle?
You told me to use HUMALOG IM with an insulin pin in an area where I have the least bodyfat… so, I can choose my quads, or bis, no prob? Does it work for HCG as well? I mean, if use it with a insulin pin of course…
With that BF of the picture, do you think I can start with HUMALOG since week 1 or wait for 2-3 weeks trying to low my BF a little bit more and then start with the insulin?
Thanks a lot
Spiffing! Just tired then ha ha
HCG has kicked in immensely
Things are going well
Thanks mate
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
[/quote]
I just want to point out that my HCG also came with that shitty saline solution and from my research I understand viability is reduced to 24-48 hours if using that one to mix it. I looked for bac water in pharmacies around here (eastern europe) but couldn’t find any for the life of it. Those dull faces when you ask for bacteriostatic water… Anyway, I had to buy mine online from UK. Having it shipped in a rubber head sealed vial I could also use it as a recipient for HCG. This is in case you may want to avoid filling all those syringes upfront.
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey Shadow Pro… I know you have been answering a lot of questions and might not remember my case, but to make a long story short, I was thinking about running a cycle with TEST-C (@200mg/week) with CLOMID (@25mg a day) and maybe throw some HUMALOG (starting with 5IU 15min before wkt).
After reading all your answers regarding cycle/doses/PCT/etc. I decided to leave the CLOMID for my PCT, keep the NOLVA (@10mg/day) I am taking right now with Alpha Male and add some HCG (@250IU 3x week) during my 10 week cycle.
It would look like this:
10 WEEKS
200mg TEST-C/week
10mg NOLVA/day
250IU HCG/3xweek
I do have some questions about HCG use and whether or not I should use HUMALOG with the BF I am right now (I attached a pictured from last weekend)
I keep reading different answers regarding HCG storage. I read you have just answered to steelk that keeping HCG mixed with bac water may last for 30 days in the refrigerator… my problem is that mine comes with preservative free normal saline to dissolve in… For how long it would last this way? I have acess to CHORIOMON 5000IU (pharmacy) here in Brazil, and my idea was to split it in 20 syringes containing 250IU each and take it every mon-wed-fri during my 10 week cycle.
Should I take the HCG IM or Subq? What is the difference regarding results, absorption, etc? Should I use an insulin pin for both or with IM I shall use a regular needle?
You told me to use HUMALOG IM with an insulin pin in an area where I have the least bodyfat… so, I can choose my quads, or bis, no prob? Does it work for HCG as well? I mean, if use it with a insulin pin of course…
With that BF of the picture, do you think I can start with HUMALOG since week 1 or wait for 2-3 weeks trying to low my BF a little bit more and then start with the insulin?
Thanks a lot
[/quote]
i’d think if your using insulin you’d need to use GH and a higher dose of test along with some tren… insulin is the most anabolic chemical there is and without the added use of GH and higher doses of test coupled with tren it seems like a recipe to get fat.
Shadow,
For a cutting cycle I like TrenA (obvious…), but I liked me what you said about 50 mg daily for 8 weeks. In case I had to switch it by Tren Hex (tren A run out), how would you take it?
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey Shadow Pro… I know you have been answering a lot of questions and might not remember my case, but to make a long story short, I was thinking about running a cycle with TEST-C (@200mg/week) with CLOMID (@25mg a day) and maybe throw some HUMALOG (starting with 5IU 15min before wkt).
After reading all your answers regarding cycle/doses/PCT/etc. I decided to leave the CLOMID for my PCT, keep the NOLVA (@10mg/day) I am taking right now with Alpha Male and add some HCG (@250IU 3x week) during my 10 week cycle.
It would look like this:
10 WEEKS
200mg TEST-C/week
10mg NOLVA/day
250IU HCG/3xweek
I do have some questions about HCG use and whether or not I should use HUMALOG with the BF I am right now (I attached a pictured from last weekend)
I keep reading different answers regarding HCG storage. I read you have just answered to steelk that keeping HCG mixed with bac water may last for 30 days in the refrigerator… my problem is that mine comes with preservative free normal saline to dissolve in… For how long it would last this way? I have acess to CHORIOMON 5000IU (pharmacy) here in Brazil, and my idea was to split it in 20 syringes containing 250IU each and take it every mon-wed-fri during my 10 week cycle.
Should I take the HCG IM or Subq? What is the difference regarding results, absorption, etc? Should I use an insulin pin for both or with IM I shall use a regular needle?
You told me to use HUMALOG IM with an insulin pin in an area where I have the least bodyfat… so, I can choose my quads, or bis, no prob? Does it work for HCG as well? I mean, if use it with a insulin pin of course…
With that BF of the picture, do you think I can start with HUMALOG since week 1 or wait for 2-3 weeks trying to low my BF a little bit more and then start with the insulin?
Thanks a lot
[/quote]
Get the bacteriostatic water (multi-dose) and then split it up into the syringes as you suggested. If you mix it with the preservative free water it must be used within 24-48 hours.
IM. I just use a regular syringe rather than an insulin pin, whatever you have access to will work fine.
For Humalog, you can shoot it in whatever muscle you want. Bis and quads will work too. Do the HCG in your glutes.
If you want to use insulin without GH you should start at an even lower bodyfat at a very small dose like 5iu pre workout before your heavy workouts (maybe 3x/week)
[quote]steelk wrote:
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
[/quote]
I just want to point out that my HCG also came with that shitty saline solution and from my research I understand viability is reduced to 24-48 hours if using that one to mix it. I looked for bac water in pharmacies around here (eastern europe) but couldn’t find any for the life of it. Those dull faces when you ask for bacteriostatic water… Anyway, I had to buy mine online from UK. Having it shipped in a rubber head sealed vial I could also use it as a recipient for HCG. This is in case you may want to avoid filling all those syringes upfront.
[/quote]
This is a good idea, you’ve done your research… Good post!
[quote]michell wrote:
Shadow,
For a cutting cycle I like TrenA (obvious…), but I liked me what you said about 50 mg daily for 8 weeks. In case I had to switch it by Tren Hex (tren A run out), how would you take it?
[/quote]
If you’re going use long esters like Tren Hex, you can’t simply just switch to it… You need to give it time to kick in so I would continue with the tren-a for 2 weeks while you start the tren hex. Also, you don’t need to inject everyday with the hex, 2x/week is sufficient.
Hi shadow. I recall that in the previous thread you mentioned for mass gaining it’s best to take slin pre work out and GH post work out. Though I see here that you are recommending to take Gh pre- work out as well?
I think if I recall correctly you said for mass the best 2 times are pre bed and post work out and for cutting fat pre work out and first thing in the am. Is this true? I am just trying to see which two times would be the best to take my GH during the off season. I’ll also be taking slin pre work out.
[quote]steelk wrote:
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
[/quote]
I just want to point out that my HCG also came with that shitty saline solution and from my research I understand viability is reduced to 24-48 hours if using that one to mix it. I looked for bac water in pharmacies around here (eastern europe) but couldn’t find any for the life of it. Those dull faces when you ask for bacteriostatic water… Anyway, I had to buy mine online from UK. Having it shipped in a rubber head sealed vial I could also use it as a recipient for HCG. This is in case you may want to avoid filling all those syringes upfront.
[/quote]
thanks for your input… just ordered my bc water
[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey Shadow Pro… I know you have been answering a lot of questions and might not remember my case, but to make a long story short, I was thinking about running a cycle with TEST-C (@200mg/week) with CLOMID (@25mg a day) and maybe throw some HUMALOG (starting with 5IU 15min before wkt).
After reading all your answers regarding cycle/doses/PCT/etc. I decided to leave the CLOMID for my PCT, keep the NOLVA (@10mg/day) I am taking right now with Alpha Male and add some HCG (@250IU 3x week) during my 10 week cycle.
It would look like this:
10 WEEKS
200mg TEST-C/week
10mg NOLVA/day
250IU HCG/3xweek
I do have some questions about HCG use and whether or not I should use HUMALOG with the BF I am right now (I attached a pictured from last weekend)
I keep reading different answers regarding HCG storage. I read you have just answered to steelk that keeping HCG mixed with bac water may last for 30 days in the refrigerator… my problem is that mine comes with preservative free normal saline to dissolve in… For how long it would last this way? I have acess to CHORIOMON 5000IU (pharmacy) here in Brazil, and my idea was to split it in 20 syringes containing 250IU each and take it every mon-wed-fri during my 10 week cycle.
Should I take the HCG IM or Subq? What is the difference regarding results, absorption, etc? Should I use an insulin pin for both or with IM I shall use a regular needle?
You told me to use HUMALOG IM with an insulin pin in an area where I have the least bodyfat… so, I can choose my quads, or bis, no prob? Does it work for HCG as well? I mean, if use it with a insulin pin of course…
With that BF of the picture, do you think I can start with HUMALOG since week 1 or wait for 2-3 weeks trying to low my BF a little bit more and then start with the insulin?
Thanks a lot
[/quote]
i’d think if your using insulin you’d need to use GH and a higher dose of test along with some tren… insulin is the most anabolic chemical there is and without the added use of GH and higher doses of test coupled with tren it seems like a recipe to get fat.
[/quote]
Yep… I will wait a little bit more to use insulin only when I can afford GH together… regarding my TEST doses, I will keep it this way this time and maybe do another cycle with stronger doses in the beginning of next year… tks
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey Shadow Pro… I know you have been answering a lot of questions and might not remember my case, but to make a long story short, I was thinking about running a cycle with TEST-C (@200mg/week) with CLOMID (@25mg a day) and maybe throw some HUMALOG (starting with 5IU 15min before wkt).
After reading all your answers regarding cycle/doses/PCT/etc. I decided to leave the CLOMID for my PCT, keep the NOLVA (@10mg/day) I am taking right now with Alpha Male and add some HCG (@250IU 3x week) during my 10 week cycle.
It would look like this:
10 WEEKS
200mg TEST-C/week
10mg NOLVA/day
250IU HCG/3xweek
I do have some questions about HCG use and whether or not I should use HUMALOG with the BF I am right now (I attached a pictured from last weekend)
I keep reading different answers regarding HCG storage. I read you have just answered to steelk that keeping HCG mixed with bac water may last for 30 days in the refrigerator… my problem is that mine comes with preservative free normal saline to dissolve in… For how long it would last this way? I have acess to CHORIOMON 5000IU (pharmacy) here in Brazil, and my idea was to split it in 20 syringes containing 250IU each and take it every mon-wed-fri during my 10 week cycle.
Should I take the HCG IM or Subq? What is the difference regarding results, absorption, etc? Should I use an insulin pin for both or with IM I shall use a regular needle?
You told me to use HUMALOG IM with an insulin pin in an area where I have the least bodyfat… so, I can choose my quads, or bis, no prob? Does it work for HCG as well? I mean, if use it with a insulin pin of course…
With that BF of the picture, do you think I can start with HUMALOG since week 1 or wait for 2-3 weeks trying to low my BF a little bit more and then start with the insulin?
Thanks a lot
[/quote]
Get the bacteriostatic water (multi-dose) and then split it up into the syringes as you suggested. If you mix it with the preservative free water it must be used within 24-48 hours.
IM. I just use a regular syringe rather than an insulin pin, whatever you have access to will work fine.
For Humalog, you can shoot it in whatever muscle you want. Bis and quads will work too. Do the HCG in your glutes.
If you want to use insulin without GH you should start at an even lower bodyfat at a very small dose like 5iu pre workout before your heavy workouts (maybe 3x/week)
[/quote]
thanks for all the info Shadow…
I have just ordered some bac water… will wait a little longer for the insulin… this time will keep only my TEST-C and HCG… one last doubt… maybe this is because I might have understood something different due to the translation from english to portuguese:
The HCG will be injected in the glutes IM with a 1,2 inches (3 centimeters) needle… I can not use an insulin needle (same I use for GH), CORRECT?
BUT the insulin can be injected IM but with the small needle (same I use for GH), CORRECT?
Don´t wanna look dumb, just wanna make sure I got this 100%
Hey Shadow,
Im starting tren along with prami tomorrow. I have to get up for work at 3:30am on tue/thur so taking prami in the evening the night before may be problematic as i wouldnt want to be knocked out cold and sleep through my alarms. What is your experience in taking it in the morning instead and riding out the tiredness/sick feeling (if you get that at all).
Thanks
Jekyll
Hi Shadow!
I’m goin to start contest preparation for my first competition. I’m not sure about detection time of clenbuterol. I asked several people and someone said 5 dayz and the other said 3weeks etc. Can you give me satisfactory answer? My own opinion is 5 dayz.
Thanx so much for your answer! Sorry for my english, have a nice day!
Hi Shadow Pro, for fat loss you mentioned that walking on a treadmill post workout is a good idea.
20 - 30 minutes worth of walking? But what speed and elevation do you suggest for fat loss.
Also is it steady state for the whole period?
Its me again. My bloodwork came back normal I’m actually a hundred over what I was before. I will wait to 8 weeks like you recommend. could you recommend a good cut cycle? no clenbuterol please
DISCLAIMER: This is GH15 info, not info associated with Shadow Pro.
[quote]Sincl@r wrote:
No, indeed I’m not. Feel free to enlighten me/us, always wanting to learn. [/quote]
Egg whites you’re spot on… he drinks them by the carton, uncooked. Not sure how because I get incredibly sick when I try to do that. CHEAP lean proteins (chicken, tilapia, white fish in general, egg whites) are the go to sources. Mix that up with rice and that’s your meal. Still hungry? THEN eat some ice cream (it’s the only dairy source LOJ recommends). Pineapples / juice are a HUGE staple, as well as other fruit like bananas. He’s a huge advocate of low fat / high carb, mostly because he’s always on tren.