Ryan Kennelly's 1036lb Bench Press!

[Hanley]

[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
Dude thats the point!! They are still just as big and just as strong if they dont use those shirts.

I guess when your sport is soley about increasing the amount of weight, it eventually go to the point where if you could increase it even more artificially with a tight shirt, thats the way it had to be. And really this is not a knock on the strength of these guys I just dont understand the need to artificially do it. Even juice is one thing, but adding an external crutch like that?

It seems to me like the guy at the gym “benching” 275 where his friend keeps picking it off his chest, but the guy is really only strong enough to rep 235.

But I will say this, it is the sports fault for allowing the shirts, not the lifters, because if that is your sport and it is allowed and everyone else does it you have to keep it up to even have a chance at competing. So, no hating on the athletes themselves here, just what the sport has turned into.

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I’m guessing you’ve never used a shirt? Not saying it as a knock, but using one is not only fun and a major fucking adreniln rush but it also helps to protect my joints.

Honestly now, how many guys do you reckon could consistently do full range benches with 700+ lbs year after year and survive in the sport? Not many I’d say.

As for “It seems to me like the guy at the gym “benching” 275 where his friend keeps picking it off his chest, but the guy is really only strong enough to rep 235.”

There’s one major difference. They guy in the shirt is controlling the weight on his own (and don’t say the shirts doing it for him) where as gym-rat isn’t doing much except spotting his buddys upright rows. BIG difference.

Hell, we may as well take shirts outta powerlifting. As soon as they take drugs outta bodybulding and other professional sports. I’ll burn my shirt the day someone wins the olympia under 230lbs, or they re-write the olympic records and say the fastest 100m ever was 11 seconds.

People knock shirts because they give an easily quantifiable increase. You don’t here someone saying “OMFG d-bol gave him .15 off his 100m time”.

When it comes down to it powerlifting is a closed community. We cater for ourselves and what we want to do. If the guys who don’t lift or support powerlifting don’t like it, then fuck 'em.

[Shadowzz4]

[quote]Hanley wrote:
Shadowzz4 wrote:
Dude thats the point!! They are still just as big and just as strong if they dont use those shirts.

I guess when your sport is soley about increasing the amount of weight, it eventually go to the point where if you could increase it even more artificially with a tight shirt, thats the way it had to be. And really this is not a knock on the strength of these guys I just dont understand the need to artificially do it. Even juice is one thing, but adding an external crutch like that?

It seems to me like the guy at the gym “benching” 275 where his friend keeps picking it off his chest, but the guy is really only strong enough to rep 235.

But I will say this, it is the sports fault for allowing the shirts, not the lifters, because if that is your sport and it is allowed and everyone else does it you have to keep it up to even have a chance at competing. So, no hating on the athletes themselves here, just what the sport has turned into.

I’m guessing you’ve never used a shirt? Not saying it as a knock, but using one is not only fun and a major fucking adreniln rush but it also helps to protect my joints.

Honestly now, how many guys do you reckon could consistently do full range benches with 700+ lbs year after year and survive in the sport? Not many I’d say.

As for “It seems to me like the guy at the gym “benching” 275 where his friend keeps picking it off his chest, but the guy is really only strong enough to rep 235.”

There’s one major difference. They guy in the shirt is controlling the weight on his own (and don’t say the shirts doing it for him) where as gym-rat isn’t doing much except spotting his buddys upright rows. BIG difference.

Hell, we may as well take shirts outta powerlifting. As soon as they take drugs outta bodybulding and other professional sports. I’ll burn my shirt the day someone wins the olympia under 230lbs, or they re-write the olympic records and say the fastest 100m ever was 11 seconds.

People knock shirts because they give an easily quantifiable increase. You don’t here someone saying “OMFG d-bol gave him .15 off his 100m time”.

When it comes down to it powerlifting is a closed community. We cater for ourselves and what we want to do. If the guys who don’t lift or support powerlifting don’t like it, then fuck 'em.

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I see what your saying and I agree with most of it. But can you name me another sport where an external assisting device that effects the outcome of the sport by 20% if not more is used? And im not saying its cheating like you are with using the steroids, because it is legal in the sport.

Though I know quite a few powerlifters juice and use the shirt. I guess the best argument is the injury prevention. I guess if your safer over the long term using a bench shirt benching 1036 than not using a bench shirt benching 850 than so be it. I can understand that.

[Pinto]

[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:

But I will say this, it is the sports fault for allowing the shirts, not the lifters, because if that is your sport and it is allowed and everyone else does it you have to keep it up to even have a chance at competing. So, no hating on the athletes themselves here, just what the sport has turned into.

[/quote]

Oh that’s ok- hate on me all you want. I really like what the sport has turned into. Actually, my next bench shirt will be a scooped tri-ply phenom just like big Ryan’s. However, I doubt I will get 300 lbs of carryover- but I can always hope, right?

[themechanic55]

[quote]xb100 wrote:
RJ24 wrote:
xb100, I hate to interject here, but you aren’t serious, are you? Guys like Ryan, Gene, and Scott get around 300 lbs out of their shirts, not 50-70. I believe the raw record is 715 (not held by Ryan) while the shirted record is now apparently 1036.

I’d think it would take a newbie powerlifter quite some time to get 300 pounds out of his shirt.

As for guys who have been powerlifting for quite some time ya, it might come easier for them.

Also a single ply shirt probably won’t give you as much support as say a double of triple ply. You could infer that wearing a triple ply would give you a bigger bench as opposed to wearing a single ply.

If guys got 200-300 pounds out of there shirts, there would be a ton more people benching 600-700 pounds.

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You don’t put on a bench shirt and immediately bench an extra 300lbs. You have to work out in it to find the groove, so that you can get the most out of the shirt.

[Joebob]

Wow! What a lift. Ryan is the man. This has been a long time coming for him. These guys are taking their damn cheater gear to whole new level.

[Taquito]

[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:

I see what your saying and I agree with most of it. But can you name me another sport where an external assisting device that effects the outcome of the sport by 20% if not more is used? And im not saying its cheating like you are with using the steroids, because it is legal in the sport.

Though I know quite a few powerlifters juice and use the shirt. I guess the best argument is the injury prevention. I guess if your safer over the long term using a bench shirt benching 1036 than not using a bench shirt benching 850 than so be it. I can understand that.

[/quote]

1. football(gridiron) don’t wear pads to a football game and see what happens
   2)pole vaulting- compare this to people jumping over a bar
   3)iceskating- try it without skates
2. any sport- shoes!
3. baseball- the bat is a lever arm that works much better that smacking at it with your hand
   and on and on…

[cunniff81]

[quote]shizen wrote:
It dosnt even look like he touches his chest though [/quote]

I’m with you on this. Doesn’t look like he gets low enough and where is the pause at the bottom? looks more like a tough ‘n’ go.
Is it getting to the stage that they are not worrying about the rules as long as it’s freak’n heavy.

[Shadowzz4]

[quote]Taquito wrote:
Shadowzz4 wrote:

I see what your saying and I agree with most of it. But can you name me another sport where an external assisting device that effects the outcome of the sport by 20% if not more is used? And im not saying its cheating like you are with using the steroids, because it is legal in the sport.

Though I know quite a few powerlifters juice and use the shirt. I guess the best argument is the injury prevention. I guess if your safer over the long term using a bench shirt benching 1036 than not using a bench shirt benching 850 than so be it. I can understand that.

1. football(gridiron) don’t wear pads to a football game and see what happens
   2)pole vaulting- compare this to people jumping over a bar
   3)iceskating- try it without skates
2. any sport- shoes!
3. baseball- the bat is a lever arm that works much better that smacking at it with your hand
   and on and on…

[/quote]

You my friend are a fucking idiot. The sport is called pole vaulting! There is also another event called the high jump! They are not the same! Just like he did not bench press 1036 pounds! That is not a bench press! Take the pole to the high jump competition and you have a good comparision to the bench shirt.

1)- Explain how pads make the players better.
3)- the skate is in the name of the sport! If they called this shirt pressing it would be fine. its not a bench press
4)- any sport shoes? Dude your a fucking moron.
5)- the game of baseball has used bats for over 100 years.

powerlifters just started artificially putting up their numbers fairly recently.

[jtrinsey]

I think what most people don’t realize is that equipped lifting is way harder than raw lifting. It adds an element of technique that most people (myself included because I’ve never used equipment) can’t understand. I’ve never used gear but have trained with some who have and it takes a lot of extra training and thought and hard work to use shirts and suits properly. Shit it takes hard work just to get em on!

[Hanley]

[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
Taquito wrote:
Shadowzz4 wrote:

I see what your saying and I agree with most of it. But can you name me another sport where an external assisting device that effects the outcome of the sport by 20% if not more is used? And im not saying its cheating like you are with using the steroids, because it is legal in the sport.

Though I know quite a few powerlifters juice and use the shirt. I guess the best argument is the injury prevention. I guess if your safer over the long term using a bench shirt benching 1036 than not using a bench shirt benching 850 than so be it. I can understand that.

1. football(gridiron) don’t wear pads to a football game and see what happens
   2)pole vaulting- compare this to people jumping over a bar
   3)iceskating- try it without skates
2. any sport- shoes!
3. baseball- the bat is a lever arm that works much better that smacking at it with your hand
   and on and on…

You my friend are a fucking idiot. The sport is called pole vaulting! There is also another event called the high jump! They are not the same! Just like he did not bench press 1036 pounds! That is not a bench press! Take the pole to the high jump competition and you have a good comparision to the bench shirt.

1)- Explain how pads make the players better.
3)- the skate is in the name of the sport! If they called this shirt pressing it would be fine. its not a bench press
4)- any sport shoes? Dude your a fucking moron.
5)- the game of baseball has used bats for over 100 years.

powerlifters just started artificially putting up their numbers fairly recently.

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How dare you call someone else a fucking moron when your whole argument is based on the fact that YOU don’t like something.

Point 5, so you’re saying that in 100 years it will be ok for shirts to be a part of powerlifting too?

Did baseball players not “artficially” start to put up their numbers in recent decades with new bats?

Pads let football players tackle harder and reduce the chance of injury. Sorta like a bench shirt. But wait, that can’t be right because then your argument (based on personal opinion) starts to fall apart.

[vandalay15]

This thread is a great example of why so many regard these forums as a joke.

Here we have a guy who benches a new all-time record, is strong in AND out of gear, and carries more muscle than most likely anyone on the site, and we have fags who gotta hate because they “don’t get it” or “don’t like shirted benching”.

The thing is, if that’s your opinion, great. But don’t turn this thread into the same old tired bitchfest about bench shirts. ESPECIALLY when you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.

Now even if benching in a shirt isn’t your thing, at least respect a man for working hard enough and having the strength to achieve his goals.

You would think a bunch of dudes on a lifting site in the strength forum could at least do this. These are probably the same guys who get “T-Man” tattoos and love starting a new thread every week about how some moron at their gym did “isolation” movements for their arms and gave them a funny look because they were doing 1-leg good mornings.

[IainK]

Spot on Vandalay 15!

Whatever your view on bench shirts (and I certanly have my own) its just getting plain tired.

He’s another news flash. Equipped lifters actually realise their equipment helps them lift more, enjoy this fact and are very open about it if asked with respect!

[undeadlift]

News flash again: equipment doesn’t help with grip strength.

Anyway, let’s leave the shirt-hating alone and start talking about the lift again.

I see Scott Mendelson was on the meet as well. Still strong, but I wish he’d lift in four digits again.

[Hanley]

[quote]vandalay15 wrote:
This thread is a great example of why so many regard these forums as a joke.

Here we have a guy who benches a new all-time record, is strong in AND out of gear, and carries more muscle than most likely anyone on the site, and we have fags who gotta hate because they “don’t get it” or “don’t like shirted benching”.

The thing is, if that’s your opinion, great. But don’t turn this thread into the same old tired bitchfest about bench shirts. ESPECIALLY when you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.

Now even if benching in a shirt isn’t your thing, at least respect a man for working hard enough and having the strength to achieve his goals.

You would think a bunch of dudes on a lifting site in the strength forum could at least do this. These are probably the same guys who get “T-Man” tattoos and love starting a new thread every week about how some moron at their gym did “isolation” movements for their arms and gave them a funny look because they were doing 1-leg good mornings. [/quote]

Post of the thread.

[malonetd]

[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
5)- the game of baseball has used bats for over 100 years.
[/quote]

Fine – how a bout aluminum bats? Or shoes for sprints? Fiberglass poles for pole vaulting? Titanium drivers in golf?

All sports try to advance the technology of their equipment. Why is this so hard to understand?

[Hanley]

[quote]malonetd wrote:
Shadowzz4 wrote:
5)- the game of baseball has used bats for over 100 years.

Fine – how a bout aluminum bats? Or shoes for sprints? Fiberglass poles for pole vaulting? Titanium drivers in golf?

All sports try to advance the technology of their equipment. Why is this so hard to understand?[/quote]

Like I said, it’s an ego thing

People don’t like being made to look weak.

[michael2507]

This thread is a riot.

Next someone will diagnose scapular winging or gyno on the guy…

[Shadowzz4]

I said it multiple times in my posts, Im not hating on the guys at all, they are strong as shit, So they guy really benches 750 or whatever it is. Hanley had a good response in that it will prevent injuries. So its safe to put a shirt on to get almost 400 pounds out of your shirt? That guy will still bench more than anyone who posted on this thread including myself will ever squat.

Significantly more. Got alot of respect for all the time and effort it took to develop that type of strength. And my opinion on bench shirts alone means I dont know what the fuck Im talking about? The only way I would know what I was talking about is if I agreed with you.

Here is a post from powerliftingwatch says it better than I could.

Ok, you can get injured more from lifting raw then with a shirt. Whether it is torn pecs or some sort of triceps injury, I will admit that. BUT the bench shirts are becoming more and more dangerous. A bench shirt was created first for safety. Explain to me how it is SAFE to try to lift 300 pounds more then you can handle on the bench and have it coming crashing down on you cause so many lifts bomb out now a days. The big guys can handle 1000 pounds coming down on their chest but there is so many people who will not be able to handle that weight.

The bench shirts will keep on getting more and more rediculous and soon you will have guys in the 220 class attempting 1000 and it is only a matter of time when someone can not handle that addtional 300 pounds and have it crash down on their face and the result is fatal. There is a lot of people out there that do stupid shit everyday and you can say the same thing for kids b/c they do not know what they are doing. It is getting scary b/c these kids try way to much with the bench shirts b/c they do not know what they are doing, that we are going to witness some deaths from the shirt as a result. Maybe not at competitions but a gyms or in the basement where they are not smart enough to get more than one spotter.

It is only a matter of time, that with these bench shirts coming out that help you handle another 300 pounds, we are gonna witness it get so out of hand that some people are gonna get injured severly or it could be fatal. Bench shirts is becoming suicidal and stupid. BENCH SHIRTS ARE NOT SAFE AND HAS THE POTENIAL TO BECOMING A LOT MORE DANGEROUS THAN LIFTING RAW…IT IS A CHANCE YOU HAVE TO TAKE AND IT COULD BE A FATAL ONE…

Dude just because it is your sport and you love it dont be stupid sheep and follow everyone else and just reject common sense you idiots.

[Pinto]

[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:

I said it multiple times in my posts, Im not hating on the guys at all, they are strong as shit, So they guy really benches 750 or whatever it is. Hanley had a good response in that it will prevent injuries. So its safe to put a shirt on to get almost 400 pounds out of your shirt? That guy will still bench more than anyone who posted on this thread including myself will ever squat.

Significantly more. Got alot of respect for all the time and effort it took to develop that type of strength. And my opinion on bench shirts alone means I dont know what the fuck Im talking about? The only way I would know what I was talking about is if I agreed with you.

Here is a post from powerliftingwatch says it better than I could.

Ok, you can get injured more from lifting raw then with a shirt. Whether it is torn pecs or some sort of triceps injury, I will admit that. BUT the bench shirts are becoming more and more dangerous. A bench shirt was created first for safety. Explain to me how it is SAFE to try to lift 300 pounds more then you can handle on the bench and have it coming crashing down on you cause so many lifts bomb out now a days. The big guys can handle 1000 pounds coming down on their chest but there is so many people who will not be able to handle that weight.

The bench shirts will keep on getting more and more rediculous and soon you will have guys in the 220 class attempting 1000 and it is only a matter of time when someone can not handle that addtional 300 pounds and have it crash down on their face and the result is fatal. There is a lot of people out there that do stupid shit everyday and you can say the same thing for kids b/c they do not know what they are doing. It is getting scary b/c these kids try way to much with the bench shirts b/c they do not know what they are doing, that we are going to witness some deaths from the shirt as a result. Maybe not at competitions but a gyms or in the basement where they are not smart enough to get more than one spotter.

It is only a matter of time, that with these bench shirts coming out that help you handle another 300 pounds, we are gonna witness it get so out of hand that some people are gonna get injured severly or it could be fatal. Bench shirts is becoming suicidal and stupid. BENCH SHIRTS ARE NOT SAFE AND HAS THE POTENIAL TO BECOMING A LOT MORE DANGEROUS THAN LIFTING RAW…IT IS A CHANCE YOU HAVE TO TAKE AND IT COULD BE A FATAL ONE…

Dude just because it is your sport and you love it dont be stupid sheep and follow everyone else and just reject common sense you idiots.[/quote]

I totally agree with you man. It seems like every time I turn around someone gets killed from dropping a 800 lbs barbell on their face after a failed shirt press. My training group gets a little smaller every week. It’s just a question of time before my luck runs out.

[jlesk68]

I wonder what Mendy will bench when he comes back…