Ryan Kennelly's 1036lb Bench Press!

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[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:

I said it multiple times in my posts, Im not hating on the guys at all, they are strong as shit, So they guy really benches 750 or whatever it is. Hanley had a good response in that it will prevent injuries. So its safe to put a shirt on to get almost 400 pounds out of your shirt? That guy will still bench more than anyone who posted on this thread including myself will ever squat.

Significantly more. Got alot of respect for all the time and effort it took to develop that type of strength. And my opinion on bench shirts alone means I dont know what the fuck Im talking about? The only way I would know what I was talking about is if I agreed with you.

Here is a post from powerliftingwatch says it better than I could.

Ok, you can get injured more from lifting raw then with a shirt. Whether it is torn pecs or some sort of triceps injury, I will admit that. BUT the bench shirts are becoming more and more dangerous. A bench shirt was created first for safety. Explain to me how it is SAFE to try to lift 300 pounds more then you can handle on the bench and have it coming crashing down on you cause so many lifts bomb out now a days. The big guys can handle 1000 pounds coming down on their chest but there is so many people who will not be able to handle that weight.

The bench shirts will keep on getting more and more rediculous and soon you will have guys in the 220 class attempting 1000 and it is only a matter of time when someone can not handle that addtional 300 pounds and have it crash down on their face and the result is fatal. There is a lot of people out there that do stupid shit everyday and you can say the same thing for kids b/c they do not know what they are doing. It is getting scary b/c these kids try way to much with the bench shirts b/c they do not know what they are doing, that we are going to witness some deaths from the shirt as a result. Maybe not at competitions but a gyms or in the basement where they are not smart enough to get more than one spotter.

It is only a matter of time, that with these bench shirts coming out that help you handle another 300 pounds, we are gonna witness it get so out of hand that some people are gonna get injured severly or it could be fatal. Bench shirts is becoming suicidal and stupid. BENCH SHIRTS ARE NOT SAFE AND HAS THE POTENIAL TO BECOMING A LOT MORE DANGEROUS THAN LIFTING RAW…IT IS A CHANCE YOU HAVE TO TAKE AND IT COULD BE A FATAL ONE…

Dude just because it is your sport and you love it dont be stupid sheep and follow everyone else and just reject common sense you idiots.[/quote]

Holy fucking slippery slope argument Batman!

We can’t encourage lifting shirts people. Soon, people are gonna be dropping weight on their face. After that, they’re gonna start dropping weight on OTHER peopele’s faces. Pretty soon, an entire face weight dropping epidemic will break out. After that, government and society as we know it shall collapse, and we’ll all resort to cannibalism to survive. If you love America, nay, if you love freedom, you will oppose bench shirts!

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Ryan is from my area and lifts at my gym sometimes. I have seen him do meet here locally for like 6-7 years. If you have ever seen him in the warmup room, you will know he is strong BEFORE he puts his shirt on. Shirt or no shirt = strong.

Palin and simple. You still have to lock it out. If you have a problem with shirts these days (they are rediculous) then lift in the WABDL where nothing over a 2-ply is legal. Bench shirts will top out soon and strength and technical approach will come back into play a little bit.

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woah i take back anything bad i said about this guy Ryan Kennelly - 405x20 Bench - YouTube saw some of his raw lifts which are probably old and its just nuts. The last guy who had the world record looked pretty out of shape also, this guy looks thick as hell.

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As gay and out of hand as equipped lifting is, that was impressive. I found his 405 for 20 to be even more impressive. I’d be willing to bet 95%+ of the people on this forum can’t get it for a raw single, and he did 20. The really nutty part is he had more in him, he just stopped.

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The dangers of bench shirts are why I have switched from powerlifting to competitive stamp collecting. Its a lot rougher than you would think…

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[quote]Bigpull wrote:
If you have a problem with shirts these days (they are rediculous) then lift in the WABDL where nothing over a 2-ply is legal. quote]

That isn’t exactly true though.

Single ply shirts are not “tame” at all. The Katana, F6s, and inzers are a lot of shirt. Single ply is going to be worn a lot tighter to get the maximum benefit out of it, so don’t think that these shirts are any less extreme.

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SAFE LOL!!

I guess we all lift to avoid injury and not have degenerative joint issues later life lol!!

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Well, many athletes lift to avoid injury, but you have a point on the degenerative joint issues…

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“many athletes lift to avoid injury”

Your right, was meaning powerlifters.

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I will say that the plain fact is a human being had a large part in pressing over 1000 pounds, that is incredible really incredible.

Now back to bashing shirts. Just curious, where do you think the equipped bench record will be in ten years? Anyone? Do you think 1500 pounds is out of the question? With a Raw max of 650 and a 4 inch thick spider silk shirt with steel cables. That will be incredible!!

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I have trained with Gene Rychlak, Bobby Fields, Mike Miller and Joe Mazza are personal friends and past training partners. I have competed in the BB4Cash semi’s (where I bombed) and many other high profile meets.

Compared to some of the lifts (Markus Schick)I have winessed, this is a good lift. Bench shirt or no bench shirt.

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Lifting raw is like sleeping without a pillow.

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[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:

I said it multiple times in my posts, Im not hating on the guys at all, they are strong as shit, So they guy really benches 750 or whatever it is.[/quote] “Really benches”? There is no “really” he benched 1036, in a competition.[quote] Hanley had a good response in that it will prevent injuries. So its safe to put a shirt on to get almost 400 pounds out of your shirt? That guy will still bench more than anyone who posted on this thread including myself will ever squat.[/quote] Maybe more than you ever will, but I don’t like to limit myself with that kind of thinking.[quote]

Significantly more. Got alot of respect for all the time and effort it took to develop that type of strength.[/quote] Then leave it at that. Why come into a thread and complain about shit you don’t really understand? [quote]And my opinion on bench shirts alone means I dont know what the fuck Im talking about? The only way I would know what I was talking about is if I agreed with you.

Here is a post from powerliftingwatch says it better than I could.
“blah, blah”
[/quote]How about forming an intelligent opinion through experience and research? Do’nt be a stupid sheep.[quote]

Dude just because it is your sport and you love it dont be stupid sheep and follow everyone else and just reject common sense you idiots.[/quote]Idiot? Dumbass.

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Shadowzz4, if you wanna continue bashing bench shirts, open your own thread.

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I might open up a football thread and complain about pads…

Or a running thread and moan about spikes…

Or a bodybuilding thread and slag drugs…

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[quote]Hanley wrote:
I might open up a football thread and complain about pads…

Or a running thread and moan about spikes…

Or a bodybuilding thread and slag drugs…
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Since Orange Cola has never been one to avoid controversy, let me take a stab at this one.

This “1036” bench was a joke.

Comparing pads and bench shirts makes absolutely no sense unless pads start getting equiped with mini rockets which allow the players to run faster and hit harder.

Running spikes don’t even come close to adding the advantage that bench shirts do. I have never seen a runner have to train for a year just to relearn how to run in spikes. The 100 meter time would be 8 seconds if there was as much carry over to running with spikes as there was with bench shirts.

Bench shirts are now starting to make the “sport” MORE DANGEROUS because they are allowing athletes to lift loads way outside what they should ever be handling.

I am not going to cower down to the lemming like group think here and accept this “effort”.

I am not saying that this bench is as big a joke as Kara Bohigan’s 402 bench:

The WPO and Kiernan are “for the lifters” and it is like letting the little kids run the elemetary school with nobody to set limits on how ridiculus the equipment or the “tricks” that these guys are using. You need a strong governing body to kick some ass and put the lifters in their places or else you wind up with this.

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Pads DO allow the player to hit harder. Do you think players would hit as hard without pads? It’s such a deeply ingrained part of the sport that it is no longer questioned. They have less regard for their personal safety with them on. And can have multiple big hits per game

Parrallel this with rugby where players have recently started wearing a form of mini armour, pad like equipment under their jersey. At first it was said it dilutes the game and players are being soft, but in such a physical and dangeroius sport is it not prudent to do everything possible to prevent injuries?

Thus, your point is redundant.

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[quote]orangecola wrote:

I am not saying that this bench is as big a joke as Kara Bohigan’s 402 bench:

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And hold on one fucking second. Kara did that in a closed back rage (not sure if it was single or double, BUT it lacked the extreme jackability of open shirts), there was a hold at lockout, a proper pause on the chest and it was fully locked out, and quite smooth too. AND it was quite soon after a knee operation. Or is your head so far up your ass you couldn’t see the knee brace?

It would appear your another person who doesn’t have a clue.

You want a “strong governing body” to look after the lifters? To what end? So people like you are more willing to accept the sport? If that’s the audience we’re attempting to cater for then powerlifting is about to take huge steps backwards.

If you’re a raw advocate (this is assuming you compete) then go lift in 100% RAW, USAPL raw, ADFPA (WDFPF) unequipped or APF raw and quite moaning about gear, single ply USAPL, APF, IPA, WPO whatever the hell fed you want, and if you’re a multi ply guy go APF, IPA, WPO etc etc… And most of all, if you’re actually a powerlifting fan then shut the hell up and appreciate one of the greatest strength displays the world has ever seen.

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[quote]orangecola wrote:

Comparing pads and bench shirts makes absolutely no sense unless pads start getting equiped with mini rockets which allow the players to run faster and hit harder.

Bench shirts are now starting to make the “sport” MORE DANGEROUS because they are allowing athletes to lift loads way outside what they should ever be handling.

I am not going to cower down to the lemming like group think here and accept this “effort”.

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Here’s one for you, pads DO have an element of danger. THe players wouldn’t go in as ferciously as they do without the knowledge they have extra protection. They wouldn’t charge with their heads down without a helmet would they?? Sure the pads are there to prevent injuries (like the shirt) and do most but from time to time the extra security they afford can cause them. You can’t deny that.

The only “lemming” here is you. Unless you’ve actually tried a shirt you can’t form fully a conclusive opinion. You’re just going along with what all the ohter raw advocates say. If that’s not a clear case of following the crowd then I don’t know what is. And if you’re saying we should listen to you and disregard the lift then surely we become lemmings for blindly falling you. Damned if I do, damned if I don’t.

And if you have ever trained in a shirt then I’ll be genuinely shocked because anyone who I’ve come across that’s spent time in a shirt will at least respect the effort and STRENGTH that goes into it even if they didn’t like it because they realise how fucking hard it is and how uncomfortable and painful shirted training is.

Let me ask you a question, in your opinion who is the strongest bencher in the world? And we’re not talking lb for lb. We’re talking abosolutes.

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I hate to beat a dead horse, but the thing that people are disagreeing with here is the magnitude of aid provided by the suit. The bench shirts used by the very top bench pressers increase their performance by 50%. No other aid in any other sport does so much for the athlete. Earlier in the thread, bench shirts were compared to spikes for track athletes, but there is no comparison here. The equivalent of spikes in powerlifting is the bar, not the shirt.

Getting back to the magnitude of aid, if athletes in other sports had something similar to the bench shirt (perhaps like some sort of spring apparatus attached to their feet) that increased their performance by 50% then the 100M world record would be under 5 seconds, the high jump record would be over 12 feet, and baskebally players would be hitting their ribs on the rim when they went up to dunk. Would the athletes be performing these feats, or would it be due to the gear?

Personally, I have no problem with powerlifters competing in suits, just as long as they don’t call what Kennelly did a bench press. If I jump off of a trampoline and clear a 12’ bar can I high jump 12’? No, but I can trampoline jump that high. And that’s what’s going on here. The top lifters can bench press around 700 lbs (an amazing feat of strength) and shirt press around 1000 (also an amazing feat of strength, but not a bench press). All I ask is that they call their accomplishments by the name they deserve.