Routine - Tips?

routine something like this, my legs stay sore for awhile so I think this works better.
day of rest in between

chest
squat
chest
deadlift
chest
squest
chest
deadlift so on

Chest Routine: going from the last workout
little warm-ups
Bench:
135 x 10
155 x 8
175 x 6
185 x 3-4
Close Bench:
95 x 10
115 x 8
135 x 8 stopped there for some reason

dumbell tricep extension
1 arm-4 sets each
super set with situps then crunches(finally I start doing abs)
two arm dumbell tricep extension-
2 x heavy sets
then, end the work out with 4 sets of 8
bicep barrel curl superset with calf raises

Squat Routine:
get my knees warmed up.
back squats
95 x 6
135 x 8
185 x 8
195 x 6
205 x 3-4
Front Squats:
95 x 6
115 x 8
135 x 8
155 x 6
Overhead press
haven’t put it in yet

superset situps, and crunches with calf raises

Deadlift: Since school ended, I lost some of my deadlift strength for some reason.
warm up
135 x 6
185 x 8
235 x 8
255 x 6
275 x 4
295 x 4
stiff legged DL:
95lbs x 10
135 x 8
155 x 6
Shrugs
95 x -till it burns
145 x -till it burns
155 x -same :slight_smile:
superseted with sit ups+crunches
Bicep alternating curls
3 sets of 10-12
superset with calf raises

This might sound crazy, but you may want to think of doing some back work. Like rows. Or chin ups.

Actually, don’t do your program. Do this one:

Or this one:

I aggree with Boyscout, backwork is a must.
I would suggest pull-ups and rows will definately work. This seems to be a strait powerlifting routine almost.

What exactly are your goals for the program? increased streangth, size, an aesthetic physic?(sorry for bad spelling) Also, what is your age and general physical condition, and are you recovering from injury?

Also, what is your breakdown for a weak? For example mine is 2 days training, rest day, then 2 days training followed by 2 days off from wieghts but with moderate cardio.

Would just like some more info before any recommendation is given.

is 5x5 better then my current workout

one day on, one day off

6’1" 205lbs
17 years old
meatier build

I don’t think I could do a chin-up at the moment. I don’t mind throwing rows in there, dumbbell single rows or barbell

If i do 5x5
Does everything go to 5x5
bench, squat deadlift, and every variation of the excerise like
front squats, stiff legs, all 5x5?

arm curls 5x5? I don’t mind going to 5x5
when do you know its time to go past the 5x5 though?

[quote]Darin1 wrote:
is 5x5 better then my current workout[/quote]

probably. Try it.

Think of it this way:

The two programs I posted are written by people who make a living in the strength and condition business. Not only that, but I’d be willing to bet that they are both strong SOBs.

If you want to be successful, you copy the people who are successful. You learn from them, and the things they do. The two authors above (one being mark rippetoe, who is …kind of a bit deal) are drawing on years of experience of what works to get beginners (like you and I) stronger. I’d listen to them.

[quote]Darin1 wrote:

arm curls 5x5? I don’t mind going to 5x5
when do you know its time to go past the 5x5 though?[/quote]

Chances are you won’t need arm curls.

You move on when you stop making gains on it (after a few resets).

Try doing chin ups, you might be able to get a few.

For a 5x5 check out Bill Starr’s program. I personally never tried it but many people have and gotten great results with strength and size.

based off the weigh I listed above what would be my 5 rep max for
bench
deadlift
squat

like
bench day:
5x5 bench
5x5 close
curls/abs
squat
5x5 back squat
5x5 front
5x5 front press
deadlift
5x5 deadlift
5x5 stiff legs
traps/curls/abs

does that work?
I like that :slight_smile:

I hate long reps

[quote]Darin1 wrote:
based off the weigh I listed above what would be my 5 rep max for
bench
deadlift
squat

like
bench day:
5x5 bench
5x5 close
curls/abs
squat
5x5 back squat
5x5 front
5x5 front press
deadlift
5x5 deadlift
5x5 stiff legs
traps/curls/abs

does that work?
I like that :slight_smile:

I hate long reps[/quote]

No it doesn’t work. Because you again fail to put in upper back work.

You’ll have to test your 5RM to find it out.

Do programs as written for a while and see what happens.

bench day:
5x5 bench
5x5 close
curls/abs
squat
5x5 back squat
5x5 front
5x5 front press
deadlift
5x5 deadlift
5x5 stiff legs
traps/curls/abs

what day would be best to put rows in?

The thing is I know weight I can do 5 times, but not sure if I could do 5 sets of it. (Btw thanks for your help)

Well it seems you haven’t really taken any of boyscout’s advice. So, instead why not just try whatever you have yourself and see if you’re making gains?

Eat enough to gain weight and see how your body reacts to “your” 5x5 routine. If it’s working, stick with it, if not, change the routine. Give it time and see what happens.

alright thanks

Well, I read through the routines, I will try mine first then, whose ever

based off the routine I posted, what would be the best day to put in rows

mate, your missing the point. You came here asking for advice, and when given it, you chose to ignore it and go with your own routine anyway?
Boy scout gave you two programs written by people who do this with every breath they take.

Do one of those for 4 weeks, if you don’t like it, change to your one and see which gives more results.

I’d recommend the next time your in the gym, take a note pad, grab a spotter (or take one with you), and go through the main lifts to work out your 1RM and 5RM.

What’s your diet looking like?
Bite the bullet and take a coupla pics. Then take some more in 3 months and note your progress. Post em up here and people can advise you.

Nathan

well
im thinking of trying this one

it says each workout takes 30 which works good

do you still do calves/arm/traps after for example or not?

[quote]Darin1 wrote:
well
im thinking of trying this one

it says each workout takes 30 which works good

do you still do calves/arm/traps after for example or not?[/quote]

If you’re working hard enough, you won’t need to do arms traps/whatever.

Try pulling a heavy 1x5 pm deadlift and see if your traps don’t feel it. Your arms will be just fine with heavy pressing and pulling.

[quote]Darin1 wrote:
well
im thinking of trying this one

it says each workout takes 30 which works good

do you still do calves/arm/traps after for example or not?[/quote]

Do it exactly as written. Add calves and direct arm work on every Friday. Traps - you’re already working them with deadlifts and power cleans. It wouldn’t hurt. How about after you deadlift?

[quote]boyscout wrote:
Darin1 wrote:

do you still do calves/arm/traps after for example or not?

If you’re working hard enough, you won’t need to do arms traps/whatever.

Your arms will be just fine with heavy pressing and pulling. [/quote]

Normally I would agree with you. But after having gone through this twice, I see no problem in doing direct arm work. I used to think chins were enough. I just started adding concentration curls and have seen immediate growth - 0.25" in the last 10 days. No pump, cold, from 17.5" to 17.75". No joke.

[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:

Normally I would agree with you. But after having gone through this twice, I see no problem in doing direct arm work. I used to think chins were enough. I just started adding concentration curls and have seen immediate growth - 0.25" in the last 10 days. No pump, cold, from 17.5" to 17.75". No joke.[/quote]

It was probably just fat because direct arm work is the devil if you’re a beginner… Or atleast that’s what seems to be the consensus around here.

Adding some direct arm work, calf work, or whatever you feel necessary won’t kill you.

posting today work out here
lets see this progression goes

http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=2288485&pageNo=0#2289593