Thibs,
I read your post about your bodyfat % in NovaGreg’s PC.
Is there an equation for the 12-site caliper test? Or a formula that you can plug the caliper measurements into?
Are the knee, cheek, and chin measurements included in the equation?
Thanks.
[quote]michsxmchn wrote:
Thibs,
I read your post about your bodyfat % in NovaGreg’s PC.
Is there an equation for the 12-site caliper test? Or a formula that you can plug the caliper measurements into?
Are the knee, cheek, and chin measurements included in the equation?
Thanks.
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You’ll have to sign up for coach Poliquin’s Biosignature seminar to learn about that. The 12 sites uses a computer program that you can access when you do the seminar.
[quote]listerfan wrote:
The Buzz wrote:
I wasn’t being sarcastic in the slightest. I was offering up some praise for Greg. Skimming through the thread I noticed a lot of negativity so I thought I’d add some encouragement. Sorry if you took it the wrong way, sir.
No problem, I just figured it had to be sarcasm…I just can’t see how anyone could say that without laughing. [/quote]
cant find a grain of sarcasm in it either… go greggy!
I’ve been a fan of the clinics from the beginning. I find them inspirational actually. But I am sorry, I don’t believe for a minute this guy has been with the program as posted. In three months or so he looks exactly the same to me. Does anybody really believe this guy has adhered to the routines and diet as prescribed and even semi-busted his ass in the gym? I’m not picking on the guy or trying to start a fight but at this point to keep up the “YOU GO GREG” stuff, to me, is like ignoring that the emperor has no clothes.
[quote]tinman915 wrote:
I’ve been a fan of the clinics from the beginning. I find them inspirational actually. But I am sorry, I don’t believe for a minute this guy has been with the program as posted. In three months or so he looks exactly the same to me. Does anybody really believe this guy has adhered to the routines and diet as prescribed and even semi-busted his ass in the gym? I’m not picking on the guy or trying to start a fight but at this point to keep up the “YOU GO GREG” stuff, to me, is like ignoring that the emperor has no clothes.[/quote]
I have to agree with you. I have also been following the clinics from the beginning and was most interested in Greg. I have seen some progress since the V-Diet and am glad for the guy but I feel he shoulda lost weight from the get go. I mean he was doing twice daily cardio and according to his posts had a good diet .
Something wasnt right. I feel like him oiling his upper body and flexing and never being relaxed in any of his pics was like he was trying to fool us. Greg I hope your friend recovers and you continue on with your diet and lifting but the only person you fooled with claimimg to be eating right and working hard during this clinic was yourself. Good LUCK
I have to agree with the prior posts. In several months, it is hard to tell that Greg lost any weight. He’s the only one of the PCs which that is so. And there is no real point to his daily updates, they are just copy-pastes …may as well just paste 7 days worth of updates at once.
[quote]Diomede wrote:
I have to agree with the prior posts. In several months, it is hard to tell that Greg lost any weight. He’s the only one of the PCs which that is so. And there is no real point to his daily updates, they are just copy-pastes …may as well just paste 7 days worth of updates at once.[/quote]
At least give credit where credit is due. He looks noticeably thinner since beginning the V-Diet.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
At least give credit where credit is due. He looks noticeably thinner since beginning the V-Diet.[/quote]
Only if you look closely, which is not my definition of noticeably.
I think the point people are making is what exactly is so different about the diets now?
I mean the diet ‘he was on’ prior was absolutely nothing at all anyways! I wouldnt think it was stopping him from losing any weight? Also there is a visual difference slightly in the pics now already, so why wasnt there before with the pounds lost or whatever it was reported? Dont give me this picture quality thing either!
I firmly believe Greg is doing the V-Diet now, heck of course he is because either way he needs this diet to work with visual changes or he will be slated by the likes of us!
I’ve been thinking the same thing as far as his previous diet. Greg probably realized somewhere around the time when the digital scale was showing his true weight that he was screwed. At that point, he was given a gift to stay in.
If it were me, I’d forget about the cardio (it’s done nothing), skip one V-diet meal and get the fricking fat off. Sorry, your strength will go down a little. Sorry, you’ll lose a little muscle. Shoot, after that, I’d be looking to get rid of the gyno. Those would be my priorities.
Dieting is uncomfortable, you should feel hungry. At times, you should be starving.
Everyone think about something here: Imagine if you were going to compete in a show and had four months to get in shape- do you think you’d only settle for losing 15 lbs? No way, you’d be trying to get every ounce of fat off of yourself. Hell, you’d even lose some muscle.
If I kept posting tubby pictures of myself for over four months, that alone would be enough to light a fire under my ass. Hey you may look big in a kick ass black shirt, but lets see you forget about your image. Who cares what the scales reads if it’s fat.
Greg, I think you’re a guy serving two masters- muscle gain and fat loss. You didn’t really do either justice. You were so scared about seeing the scale lower, that you did everything you could to believe that you were building enough muscle to let the fat slowly come off. It just doesn’t work that way unless you’re some genetic mutant. It was like you felt with all these T-Nation supps and great programs, you’d just get ripped on those alone.
I honestly think the best thing you could do would be to stop wanting to build muscle, because so many guys get into bodybuilding/weightlifting and become fat! They had decent builds before, but they were so over nourished, they got themselves 10 lbs of new muscle and 40 lbs of new bodyfat.
comparison shots… pre V-Diet and 3 weeks in…
front.
side.
back.
last one… a random front.
[quote]Xeneize wrote:
comparison shots… pre V-Diet and 3 weeks in…
front.[/quote]
WoW this one shows the biggest difference, Awesome work there.
Regardless what went on before I think everyone would agree that there is a visible difference in this picture. There is some good work being done here! I know you got to be tired of this shit by now Greg, hang tough finish strong!
[quote]Colin Wilson wrote:
WoW this one shows the biggest difference, Awesome work there.[/quote]
Yeah, he’s definitely showing progress, so kudos to him.
Wow you guys are way to nice. 14 pounds in 28 days is pretty good. I just dont see why he got the opportunity to continue in the PC. It took doing the V-Diet for him to lose 14 pounds. He should be down 60 pounds by now, along side Bartl, looking like a badass. He was on the same diet pretty much as Bartl and look where Bartl is at in his physique. Don’t give me well he’s a diffrent person, he is not Bartl. This guy has had almost HALF A YEAR to make improvements.
Its obviously not an issue for Greg to lose weight. He has lost 14 pounds which is good in one month, but what about the other four and a half months. Also I dont want to hear he has had a tough time. Well maybe he has, and maybe he has had some personal issues, but if that was the case call it quits. If you cant give us 100% like the rest then call it quits.
Everyone on this PC has had issues, look where there all at. Shit even USC made improvements in his short time period. I know its two opposing goals, but seriously everyone has made awesome improvements in there time here but Greg. The only thing Greg has improved on is his excuse making.
There could have been a new person in the PC by now that would be farther along than Greg.
Nova
Congratulations on your progress. I’m glad to see that you are showing everyone that you can perform.
Chad, Why keep beating the same old dead horse? Whatever went on before in no way takes away from what he is accomplishing now.
Hey NG,
After you finish the transition period of the V-Diet are you going to work with CT again ?? I know he offered his services to all the PC participants ( the men anyways) until July.
Have you given any consideration to this yet?
Do you have a goal weight that you would like to achieve?
What have you learned, either good or bad, from the PC as it pertains to your own nutrition, cardio, and weights? Basically, what works for you and what does not.
V.