[quote]Sayjin wrote:
Good job on coming through with the pics, Nova. Now prepare to say farewell to the man in them![/quote]
Thanks bro, it’s like the famous quote says, risk everything you are for everything you can become…
ahem you have meant to have been risking it for the last 3-4 weeks now…
and if you want “negativity” which is anything thats not giving 2 thumbs up then go read Chris’s latest blog and critisize him too.
I have just paid CT ALOT of euro a month for the next year or two to train me, and you getting it for free and only losing 4lbs if that peeves me off.
I wish you the best for the V-Diet, whatever you were jacking around with up to this point STOP IT and at least do the diet properly as THATS IT for you after this. Life will go on and you will be left without coaches or free supps, for petes sake USE EM WHILE YOU HAVE THEM !!!
Bah im out of here, again good luck please do it properly !
Greg, just do the thing Brother. Don’t look to the left or to the right but keep your eyes on the goal in front of you! All this internet stuff is bullshit and none of it means a thing. Keep a razor like focus on the task at hand.
[quote]okaz wrote:
And you sound like you paid to watch this, but all you had to do was sign up for a website and watch. Do you have any idea how lucky you and I are to even get to read these transformation processes?
It’s one thing to give constructive critisism, but just spewing out a long post of pure negativity doesn’t help anyone one bit. If you meant “I’m disappointed with your results, but good luck with the V-Diet” you could have said so, instead of 800 words of “you suck” [/quote]
Yes, it’s great that we get to watch the physique clinic but I think you are exaggerating slightly. At the end of the day, this is a GREAT thing for T-Nation and for Biotest… AND for the coaches personally. It’s basically fantastic publicity for them. Look how many people who used to read the forums have registered and become members and have started to participate. More people will buy Biotest supps and more people will pay the coaches for help. So yes it’s great to watch this, but I don’t think it makes us “lucky.”
If you read what I wrote I did say that he should use the negativity to motivate him. The coaches have doubts too - Shugs even asking if nova is an alcoholic, plus this business with dodgy scales and poor pictures.
Honestly I don’t know why so many people are BLINDLY being supportive. Yes there’s positivity but saying things like “nice job coming through with the pics” is just ridiculous. It’s been almost FOUR MONTHS… how long does it take to come through with some pics?! You can only be positive for a certain amount of time.
When someone takes 4 months, $2000 worth of supplements, and hundreds (maybe thousands) of dollars of custom-made programs to lose 10lbs… that doesn’t really inspire confidence and IMO it doesn’t really deserve positivity
Sack up buddy and get to it. Get the lead out Greg. You have been called out and put out on front street. Time you answered the call and show yourself and T-Nation readers what you are made of. We think you can do it, time for you to think that too. See yourself do it in your mind cousin, and you will get there.
It is absolutely laughable that someone with this activity level (60+ minute walks, sometimes twice daily) and diet (which has been suspiciously spot-on every day) has these results to show.
Novagreg either has an undiagnosed medical issue or, more likely, he’s lying. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but people have been taken for a ride.
Based solely on the pictures, can you say for sure that he hasn’t gained weight on the Clinic?
Posters, get real. Novagreg, get serious. You’re still a fat guy.
I’m not fully convinced this has anything to do with his physical body rather more of a psychological disorder perhaps.
Honestly, anyone who allows themselves to decay to such a degree of obesity has a problem mentally with food. READ: Eating disorder. I personally don’t think he needs a physician, rather he needs a shrink to examine him. I say this with the assumption that he is straying from the diet and program.
Many factors lead me to believe that he is straying, including the lack of showing his face during picutrs (What do you have to hide from, more specifically, who do you have to hide from?) and the lack of any mental insight or effort into any of his posts. It makes it oh so much easier for someone to attack negativley another person who is “dehumanized” by the lack of any personal comments longer than a fucking sentence saying “thanks I won’t let you down.”
If Greg does have a problem and is using food to solve it, I’d say it would benefit him 100x more to see a counsoler rather than stand the negativity here.
Just my .02 that mean’s nothing, but figured Id throw it out there.
I would give my left nut to be on the Clinic (not really but you get the idea).
This guy should be dropped asap, WTF? i am on the 5th day of the v-diet and already can see a difference in the mirror.
T-Nation is giving the wrong message to the next lucky guys who enter to the Clinic.
DROP THIS GUY IF YOU CAN’T SEE A DIFFERENCE THE FIRST 2 WEEKS OF THE V-DIET.
Ask for multiple angle pictures and high resolution (some great photoshop kids abound).
This guy should be kicked out for the fact that he was doing something called “rack curls” on one of his workouts.
I am voting that he is an alcoholic.
After reading some of the posts on here, I am very glad that I did NOT apply for the Clinic and have absolutely no intention of doing so. There are not enough free supplements and coaching advice for me to put up with this bullshit. Hey, I can see that Greg’s results are less than stellar. Do I think he may have missed a few workouts? Perhaps. That happens. It shouldn’t, and we’ve all heard stories about busy people with busy lives who don’t miss workouts and keep a strict diet. But it happens.
And while it is a shame that Greg didn’t achieve optimal results, for whatever reason, that doesn’t make him an alcoholic with a “severe” obesity problem who is in desperate need of psychological counseling. Got news for you GrabAKimber - taking one psychology class at the local college doesn’t make you an expert, okay. Seems like every moron and his dumber brother has an opinion.
Why, hello brother!
Whats really going on here is that the science (reproducible results) are not being seen. The coaches have worked with countless similar cases, this is not new to CT and CS. Everything that Nova is doing has been proven to work time and time again. Is it true that they cannot hold his hand, yes. Is it true that there is something else going on here? I think the answer is a resounding yes.
Nova, there is something you are not telling us or that you do not know yourself. An individual such as yourself, that is in a good ‘healthy’ state (other than overweight) SHOULD have made NOTICEABLE progress by now, the facts of science prove it, your coaches experiences says so too (in the trenches science). I’d like to see you do well, no doubt, if anything could help you it could be the v-diet, i’m doing it now and its great.
I personally feel that you need to evaluate where you stand, and what is really going on here? What is holding you back? I’m sorry but with all the training and diet, and FREE supps and coaching, you should have made astounding progress so far (unless there is an undiagnosed health problem), even with half the workouts, half the diet and half the coaching.
Please do yourself a favor- stop and think, whats really going on here? You say you won’t let us down, I’m sorry to say, but you already have.
[quote]SamuraiWannaBe wrote:
You say you won’t let us down, I’m sorry to say, but you already have. [/quote]
Fair enough, then follow the other Physique Clinics and just ignore mine.
[quote]jjbell63 wrote:
This guy should be kicked out for the fact that he was doing something called “rack curls” on one of his workouts. [/quote]
Rack curls are not ‘curls in the squat rack’ … but rather partial curls from a static start; they thus need to be started from a fixed point this is why a power rack is used: to start the bar off of the safety pins.
Nobody forced Physique Clinic participants to join. Those that did join got access to phenomenal supplements and coaching advice in exchange for the possibility of public scrutiny.
The apologetic tone of some posters in this thread astounds me. At his weight, novagreg should be losing 4-5 pounds each week from diet alone, to say nothing of his (ostensibly) high activity level.
For my part, I sincerely hope he succeeds. But until he proves me otherwise, I am no longer willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Get it in gear, friend.
Perhaps this whole thing has caused Nova’s cortisol levels to go so high that he can’t make progress
wow their are so many bullies on this site. how can any one get results for one greg is starting over in the Clinic fair no but we have to support the coaches. gregs new pictures really show his “progress” in the Clinic. lets see if he can change with this new diet
[quote]BattlewithIron wrote:
It seems to me like a lot of people are taking Nova’s less than optimal progress very personally, as if somehow it is hurting their own lives[/quote]
he might not be ‘hurting’ us but he is far on his way to hurting the reputation of CT and CS and Biotest. Granted, they have more success than failure, look at EVERY other Physique Clinic thread. There is a business saying (this all does come down to business, even Shugs says so) “Do a customer good, they will tell one person; wrong a customer they will tell ten.” I am honestly looking a this objectively as possible.
Nova is getting no results, I wont even say ‘sub optimal,’ this reflects poorly on the coaches and Biotest, someone who has not been here from the begining and knows all that is and has gone on will look at his most recent pics and his first, and say “what the hell, these guys know jack shit”
Honestly, I’d like to see him succeed, I like watching people do well, I like to do well myself. The other night my schools hockey team lost the semi finals, it sucked, I was not on the ice, but I felt horrible, everyone likes to see success.
My main point with Nova, there IS something else going on here, if he knows what it is or does not, there IS something out of the coaches control here, be it Nova’s fault on purpose or not (health problem).
and nova, like it or not, people flock to controversy, I follow your thread because it has the most appeal for results, I as well as others WANT TO SEE YOU DO WELL. Bartl is doing awesome, i now just check in once in while, not to exciting anymore, his banter is witty and entertain however. your thread has still much to prove. Like Shugs said in his hammer, I hope you’re giving us all the finger (in the end), both of them, while hip thrusting, and sticking your tongue out, with a pic of your face… for once.
I understand and agree with what you are saying Samurai. I was referring to people who take hit-and-run attacks on Nova and don’t really add anything productive. What they say strikes me as whining, as if Nova specifically caused them emotional distress.