Physique Clinic discussion for novagreg

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[quote]SamuraiWannaBe wrote:
BattlewithIron wrote:
It seems to me like a lot of people are taking Nova’s less than optimal progress very personally, as if somehow it is hurting their own lives

he might not be ‘hurting’ us but he is far on his way to hurting the reputation of CT and CS and Biotest. Granted, they have more success than failure, look at EVERY other Physique Clinic thread. There is a business saying (this all does come down to business, even Shugs says so) “Do a customer good, they will tell one person; wrong a customer they will tell ten.” I am honestly looking a this objectively as possible.

Nova is getting no results, I wont even say ‘sub optimal,’ this reflects poorly on the coaches and Biotest, someone who has not been here from the begining and knows all that is and has gone on will look at his most recent pics and his first, and say “what the hell, these guys know jack shit”

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A lot of people have been making this argument, I just don’t agree…Biotest and the coaches reputations will remain intact, no matter how this ends. Their track record speaks for themselves. From their individual articles, their willingness to answer questions and offer advice for FREE…

I, myself, have only been a part of T-Nation for a few months and I have a life times worth of training information from both coaches, not to mention the other contributors here. I did the V-Diet on the strength of the original article and those that followed, not to mention Gus’s outstanding results and the hundreds of T-Nation members who also tried it.

Even if a new person showed up and saw Greg’s pictures, I would hope that they would try to learn more before the rush to judgment, either way, The Clinic in my eyes is a complete success both men and women.

Now, I’m going to support Greg. I’m not blind and the pictures speaks for themselves but as annoyed as the coaches are, THEY have not given up on him and that says more about their character to me than anything else.

If they can continue to try to help Greg, the rest of us can do no less, cause in the end, we want to see the results that will inspire us to do just as well and right now, we haven’t and I think that’s why people are so upset.

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[quote]the2pin wrote:

Based solely on the pictures, can you say for sure that he hasn’t gained weight on the Clinic?

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That’s exactly what I thought…

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[quote]SamuraiWannaBe wrote:
BattlewithIron wrote:
It seems to me like a lot of people are taking Nova’s less than optimal progress very personally, as if somehow it is hurting their own lives

he might not be ‘hurting’ us but he is far on his way to hurting the reputation of CT and CS and Biotest. Granted, they have more success than failure, look at EVERY other Physique Clinic thread. There is a business saying (this all does come down to business, even Shugs says so) “Do a customer good, they will tell one person; wrong a customer they will tell ten.” I am honestly looking a this objectively as possible.

Nova is getting no results, I wont even say ‘sub optimal,’ this reflects poorly on the coaches and Biotest, someone who has not been here from the begining and knows all that is and has gone on will look at his most recent pics and his first, and say “what the hell, these guys know jack shit”

Honestly, I’d like to see him succeed, I like watching people do well, I like to do well myself. The other night my schools hockey team lost the semi finals, it sucked, I was not on the ice, but I felt horrible, everyone likes to see success.

My main point with Nova, there IS something else going on here, if he knows what it is or does not, there IS something out of the coaches control here, be it Nova’s fault on purpose or not (health problem).

and nova, like it or not, people flock to controversy, I follow your thread because it has the most appeal for results, I as well as others WANT TO SEE YOU DO WELL. Bartl is doing awesome, i now just check in once in while, not to exciting anymore, his banter is witty and entertain however. your thread has still much to prove. Like Shugs said in his hammer, I hope you’re giving us all the finger (in the end), both of them, while hip thrusting, and sticking your tongue out, with a pic of your face… for once.[/quote]

I appreciate you actually saying you want me to succeed man, I appreciate it. I’ve got more to prove now than ever, and to everyone who has been disappointed at the results of my PC, nobody is more disappointed than myself. I haven’t officially started the V-Diet yet, so sit tight, it’ll be underway this week. I totally realize what I signed up for with the PC, and everything that comes along with it, good and bad.

I’m not here to argue with everyone that my results have been ok, they’re subpar compared to my peers on the PC. In the end, if the coaches are still giving me a shot, that’s all I can ask for. I can’t hit a fast forward button and get to six weeks from now, and I realize that to a lot of people I have to prove that I deserve their support. That’s fine, just sit tight while I finish up this thing on a high note.

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[quote]The_Darkness wrote:
gregs new pictures really show his “progress” in the Clinic. lets see if he can change with this new diet[/quote]

WTF? Progress? The guy is fatter! Oh yeah and maybe a little bit more muscular…
This guy obviously was fucking around with the diet, didn’t follow it.

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novagreg:

There are times when calling out your Wingman; the one who’s got your back and supports you the most…

Is not such a good move…

Mufasa

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  1. Shorts NOT pulled up to your nipples and NOT cutting through / hiding your love handle area. We can’t see your progress if you continue to hide your worst areas.

Why wasn’t this followed in the latest pictures?

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Hey, NG:

Nothing like a pic of “Next Door Nikki” to cheer a guy up!

Mufasa

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[quote]Phatko wrote:
3. Shorts NOT pulled up to your nipples and NOT cutting through / hiding your love handle area. We can’t see your progress if you continue to hide your worst areas.

Why wasn’t this followed in the latest pictures?[/quote]

I’m not hiding anything dude, you’ve got very clear view of my love handles and everything. That’s where I wear my pants/shorts, right below belly button level.

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
novagreg:

There are times when calling out your Wingman; the one who’s got your back and supports you the most…

Is not such a good move…

Mufasa[/quote]

Mufasa,
Sometimes accusing someone of basically being a thief and reselling merchandise on E-Bay isn’t a great move either bro. I hear what you’re saying, but understand where I’m coming from too. Thanks for next door Nikki :slight_smile:

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Fair enough, NG!

I struggle with all this stuff myself…

But do you see where a lot of peoples skepticism is coming from?

(Another picture of Niki!)

Mufasa

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Fair enough, NG!

I struggle with all this stuff myself…

But do you see where a lot of peoples skepticism is coming from?

(Another picture of Niki!)

Mufasa[/quote]

Mufasa,
Absolutely, and I will redeem myself. Thanks for the pics, she’s smokin!

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You’re welcome!

(…and yes she is…!!!)

Mufasa

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You are a liar. Get serious or stop waisting your coaches time. there are tons of people that submitted applications for this clinic and were not chosen, like myself! Your new scale is broken…? How about your diets broken… Get it together or drop out!

OKAZ! lets be honest… right now he doesnt need anyone sticking up for him. He needs to man up and take responsibility for his lack of effort!

Physique Clinic… Why have you guys had so much patience with this guy?

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… and take those pictures off your physique clinic thread. I think its about time your start to take shit seriously!

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Greg,

Buddy this is my first post ever anywhere, but I have to write this.

  1. Good luck because I want to see you win
  2. Show your whole waist (Drop your waist line to under your roll not on it)
  3. Show your face ( If your ashamed someone will see you, how many 300lb 6ft. guys named Greg that loves the WWE and lifts weights live in your part of PA? Not many in mine)
    .5 Good luck because Karma is real and “if” you have been slacking/cheating then you will need it
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I fucked up 4 and 5 unreal and thats why I don’t post

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i still bleeve ya greg…

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I just hope these posts aren’t scaring away future participants in the clinic. And nowhere am I blindly supporting novagreg, I’m simply giving him the benefit of the doubt and wishing him luck.

Because being negative never leads to anything good, but even a smidge of support can do a lot of good.

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[quote]DuncW wrote:
stefan2k wrote:
No offense nova but how is it possible that the weight of the DB was right, but yours is wrong (I mean 20 pounds)? Weren’t you asked to use a DB to prove the scales measurement?

Maybe the new scale is wrong? :X

Just curious, greetings stefan

I was thinking the same exact thing, because if your old scale verified that it was right by putting the plate or DB on, then this one must be way off. Also, how about getting a new food scale? That one seems way off too.
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Go back a page or two and read my post…I used to calibrate things like this and it is normal for these things to be inaccurate in the bottom and top 10% of range. The fact that the scale checked out with a 5# dumbbell does not mean the scale was right…it means he didn’t use enough weight to get into its real working range; so you still can’t tell whether or not it was accurate.

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Can you get a second opinion on the medical check up?

Good luck on the V-Diet