Physique Clinic discussion for novagreg

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[quote]novagreg wrote:

Dan,
Thanks so much dude. For my tape measurements, I use Myotape, which is very accurate. I posted on my thread that I’m am starting to wonder if my scale that I’ve been relying on is off, and that I actually started at a heavier weight than 266. I’ll be weighing myself on Friday on the gym scale, so when I find out and take measurements, perhaps you can let me know what the program says?

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I bought a new digital scale when I started the V-Diet from Target and it has been working great. Only cost about $30.00 Might be easier to use that for your personal progress instead of using the gym’s scale all the time. I used to have the very same scale that you had and it was always off.

I hated that old crappy scale and found it was off between 5 to 8 lbs no matter how I adjusted it. It was a Bed Bath and Beyond failure to me.

Kill this V-Diet Greg and really rip that fat off!

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Greg,
Here is a link to the software http://www.calculateforfree.com/index5.html It’s at the top free downloads Army Bodyfat Calculator/Air Force version. But, it can also give some screwy results so take what it says with a grain of salt. Here is a link to another site that talks through the algorithm http://home.fuse.net/clymer/bmi/

Just remember, to a certain degree, it’s all just mental masturbation. All that really matters is how you look. No one is going to come up to you and ask what your bf% is and by what method.

Dan

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Digital scales all the way!

If you’re using mechanical scales a good test would be to weigh yourself then grab a 20lb+ weight (to make sure it’s a decent % of the weight already on there) and weigh yourself with it and see how much it jumps up. That would be an interesting test I think.

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Awesome Greg! V-Diet your ass off…literally

Guess that was a Baaaaaadddd joke ← Get the sheep reference?

I wonder why he is so into sheep???

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[quote]novagreg wrote:
RockCrusher wrote:
NovaGreg,

I posted something similar on Gus’ thread. When I was in the military(USAF '93-'97), they used and may still use a method for determining bf% using height/weight/neck/belly measurements. The best info I could find is that some AF researchers developed a calculation that was a best fit to test subjects that had their bf% tested in some standardized way.

Frankly, it is at best a serious SWAG(scientific wild-assed guess) and fairly variable based on the measurements though it does take three measures each in the neck and belly and averages them before doing the calculation. I say all of that because I want everyone to understand that I understand the limitations.

I have a DOS program that runs the calculation based on these input parameters. So, for grins, I ran your numbers. Your first measurements were on

1/7/2008

Height:73.00"
Weight:260lbs
Neck :17.125" rounded up to 17.13
Belly :45.00"

Total BM:260
Fat BM: 76
Lean BM:184

%BF: 29.27%

Your last measurements were on

3/9/2008

Height:73.00"
Weight:236lbs
Neck :17.00"
Belly :39.50"

Total BM:236
Fat BM: 53
Lean BM:183

%BF: 22.31%

The program returned a bf% and I multiplied this against the weight to generate the LBM, rounded to the next pound and subtracted from the total mass to get the fat mass.

The same two observations apply here. First, the bf% numbers seemed to pass the BS test and seemed reasonable. Second, these numbers show only a negligible drop in LBM while dropping 7% bf.

Dan

Dan,
Thanks so much dude. For my tape measurements, I use Myotape, which is very accurate. I posted on my thread that I’m am starting to wonder if my scale that I’ve been relying on is off, and that I actually started at a heavier weight than 266. I’ll be weighing myself on Friday on the gym scale, so when I find out and take measurements, perhaps you can let me know what the program says?

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Here’s an Excel version you can download - I knew there was one out there. You have to mess with it a little to get it to work right but if you know something about Excel you’ll figure it out. Basically, cells F10 and F11 are “protected,” but these are the cells that are used for the calculation.

When you download this file, save a copy to your hard drive. Then unprotect the sheet, and in cells F10 and F11 enter the formulas =E10 and =E11 respectively. This will then get the formula to work. Or, send me a PM with your email and I’ll send you my copy, which I’ve already fixed.

http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/useful_files/apft_and_weight_control/body-fat-calculator-2.shtml

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[quote]Colin Wilson wrote:
Awesome Greg! V-Diet your ass off…literally

Guess that was a Baaaaaadddd joke ← Get the sheep reference?

I wonder why he is so into sheep???[/quote]

ahhaahahahahaha!

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Like a couple others have mentioned, get a digital scale…but as with all scales, the upper and lower 10% of it’s range is usually inaccurate. I calibrated scales as well as numerous other types of equipment in the Navy and we’d only certify the median 80% of range.

So if you have a 0-300 pound scale, it’s accurate range is 31-270 pounds…which is another reason you should be using more than a 5# dumbbell to check your scales accuracy.

I’m glad Chris is going to V-Diet you, and you should be too. I just completed my own after seeing Gus’s progress and I dropped 29# and over 18" of BF in 28 days. If you can’t peel it off with the V-Diet, you’ve got a serious metabolic disorder, or your training intensity is below par.

Good luck.

PS: One of the other great benefits of the V-diet was it uncovered an as yet unknown food allergy in me. Some persistent dandruff/seborrea and back acne that has plagued me for years is gone and my skin hasn’t been this good since I was a kid. My Mom thinks it was wheat since she is allergic to it as well, so I’ve avoided wheat products since ending the diet.

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Hey Nova!

Just wanted to wish you all the best for the V-Diet! Stay strong! :O)

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Nova,

Good luck on the V-Diet man! I just wanted to stop in and throw in my support.

“One possibility is the loss of sub-abdominal, visceral fat. This is the fat coating your internal organs, very dangerous stuff. Losing it is basically saving your life or adding years to your life, but visually it doesn’t make for jaw-dropping before and afters.”

While this is true for the pictures, I wanted to say good job on losing the fat! That’s some nasty stuff to be carrying around and certainly great that you got it off!

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Greg,
I’ve been following yours and all the other PC threads and I’m glad to see you going on the V-Diet. I am on Day 18 myself and have dropped 16 lbs of fat so far. The workouts are brutal and should leave you in a pile of sweat on the floor 3x a week. The diet part is simple and actually very enjoyable. The NEPA walks are a great time to collect yourself and get your head straight. I do mine first thing in the AM. I wish you great success on this journey!

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[quote]SeaHag wrote:
Like a couple others have mentioned, get a digital scale…but as with all scales, the upper and lower 10% of it’s range is usually inaccurate. I calibrated scales as well as numerous other types of equipment in the Navy and we’d only certify the median 80% of range.

So if you have a 0-300 pound scale, it’s accurate range is 31-270 pounds…which is another reason you should be using more than a 5# dumbbell to check your scales accuracy.

I’m glad Chris is going to V-Diet you, and you should be too. I just completed my own after seeing Gus’s progress and I dropped 29# and over 18" of BF in 28 days. If you can’t peel it off with the V-Diet, you’ve got a serious metabolic disorder, or your training intensity is below par.

Good luck.

PS: One of the other great benefits of the V-diet was it uncovered an as yet unknown food allergy in me. Some persistent dandruff/seborrea and back acne that has plagued me for years is gone and my skin hasn’t been this good since I was a kid. My Mom thinks it was wheat since she is allergic to it as well, so I’ve avoided wheat products since ending the diet.[/quote]

Good to know about the food allergies!

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[quote]Jennjenn wrote:
Hey Nova!

Just wanted to wish you all the best for the V-Diet! Stay strong! :O)[/quote]

Thanks Jenn, I appeciate the support!

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[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Nova,

Good luck on the V-Diet man! I just wanted to stop in and throw in my support.

“One possibility is the loss of sub-abdominal, visceral fat. This is the fat coating your internal organs, very dangerous stuff. Losing it is basically saving your life or adding years to your life, but visually it doesn’t make for jaw-dropping before and afters.”

While this is true for the pictures, I wanted to say good job on losing the fat! That’s some nasty stuff to be carrying around and certainly great that you got it off!
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Thanks bro, now it’s time to catch up to you other guys results wise. :slight_smile:

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[quote]jstines wrote:
Greg,
I’ve been following yours and all the other PC threads and I’m glad to see you going on the V-Diet. I am on Day 18 myself and have dropped 16 lbs of fat so far. The workouts are brutal and should leave you in a pile of sweat on the floor 3x a week. The diet part is simple and actually very enjoyable. The NEPA walks are a great time to collect yourself and get your head straight. I do mine first thing in the AM. I wish you great success on this journey![/quote]

Thanks man, and great job on your progress!

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I don’t know if this has been brought up or thought of yet in the world of novagreg.

But I’ve been following along all of the Physique Clinic’s contendents progress since the begining and have been nothing less then impressed.

And Novagreg, I do believe you work your ass off.

Now, if anyone has thought of this or mentioned it, I apologize. But have you ever been tested for Adrenal Fatigue? Because I’ve seen it before where people work their absolutely hardest and stick to an amazing diet that should do the trick, yet results aren’t exactly upto par with what they should be in comparison.

Adrenal Fatigue… Maybe a test should be done?

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[quote]ChokeOnStrength wrote:
I don’t know if this has been brought up or thought of yet in the world of novagreg.

But I’ve been following along all of the Physique Clinic’s contendents progress since the begining and have been nothing less then impressed.

And Novagreg, I do believe you work your ass off.

Now, if anyone has thought of this or mentioned it, I apologize. But have you ever been tested for Adrenal Fatigue? Because I’ve seen it before where people work their absolutely hardest and stick to an amazing diet that should do the trick, yet results aren’t exactly upto par with what they should be in comparison.

Adrenal Fatigue… Maybe a test should be done?[/quote]

Hey man, I actually did have all that stuff checked out, I’m good.

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Awsome. Was just wonderin and lookin out for ya.

Keep killin it bro

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Coach Thibs on the V-Diet with Greg, that is the coolest thing I’ve read to date and on this site, I’ve read a lot.

Greg, $%ck! an explosion, nuke this clinic and smile about it later. Good luck to you man!

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Whoah, this should be good. I have no doubt that both of you will get through it fine, but I think this will make for some interesting reading. I enjoy reading others’ V-Diet logs because they often end up changed in so many ways when they’re done. I hope monsieur CT will join in with his thoughts along the way too.

And Greg, you’re so gonna beat him in amount of weight lost, hehehe. Think of all the gloating you can do afterwards!

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[quote]ChokeOnStrength wrote:
Awsome. Was just wonderin and lookin out for ya.

Keep killin it bro[/quote]

Thank you man. Shoot me a PM and let me know how your training and all is going.