Physique Clinic discussion for novagreg

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Hey Greg, you excited about trying the V-Diet? I think that will be a good change for you. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I trust you are doing everything in your power to succeed.

And like everyone else said, don’t worry about the haters. For every one hater, you have 100 supporters.

Keep it up big homie![/quote]

Thanks dude, I appreciate the support more than you know.

[quote]Bartl wrote:
Wow. Time for the V-Diet huh? You can do it Greg, just keep training your ass off man.[/quote]

Thanks man, you and Gus are and will continue to be a big part of my inspiration.

Hey Greg, I heard they dropped the V-Diet Hammer on you. I think this diet was made for you and you got my support all the way through. This is going to be great and I think you might drop some jaws after this is all said and done.

I wonder if Coach CT is going to do your training or if Coach CW is going to help you out on this one? Coach CT’s training might be brutal on the V-Diet. Either way, give this one everything you got and then some! Make those results…YOURS!

[quote]gustavopacho wrote:
Hey Greg, I heard they dropped the V-Diet Hammer on you. I think this diet was made for you and you got my support all the way through. This is going to be great and I think you might drop some jaws after this is all said and done.

I wonder if Coach CT is going to do your training or if Coach CW is going to help you out on this one? Coach CT’s training might be brutal on the V-Diet. Either way, give this one everything you got and then some! Make those results…YOURS! [/quote]

Thanks Gus, I appreciate the support man!

The V-Diet was great for me. I am now exactly four weeks out from finishing the V-Diet + 2 week taper and this is the leanest and most in control of my diet I’ve ever been. The weight loss is the easy benefit that you see but the other benefits such as a love of clean foods, a new confidence in your control over your body and so on are long term benefits that go far beyond the four weeks of the shakes. I actually know that I’ll see my abs soon and that’s something I’ve never thought before! :slight_smile:

I started at about 22% and 111kg I lost 7% and almost 12kg in the four weeks and now 6 weeks after I am down to 13% and 95kg. I just finished stuffing down an amazing warm salad of broccoli, cauliflower, celery, avocado and kippers and loved every bite. Before the V-Diet salad and veges were my enemy, I hated them. Now I love 'em.

So anyway this isn’t supposed to be about me, I just thought I’d give you some more confidence that the V-Diet will definitely give you the boost you need. Having a nice protein powder (flavour wise) definitely helps :slight_smile:

Good luck !

From what I’ve read around here the V-Diet doesn’t sound easy but I’m 100% convinced that you have what it takes to handle it. I see a lot of people chiming in with support and advice allready. This thing’s gonna be a walk in the park for you :slight_smile:

To be honest, novagreg, I doubted you before but no one would be able to stand so much criticism if they were not working hard to achieve something. Good luck with the V-diet. I just finished it and I am sure you will have dramatic results!

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
Here’s the thing - I believe in giving everyone the benefit of the doubt. If Greg has something going on physiologically that’s causing his fat loss to be extremely slow, then giving him crap will not help him and will just bring him down even more. If it turns out that he isn’t complying with the program, well, that’s for those in charge of the forum to figure out.
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If a person really thinks there’s something wrong with them from a physiological standpoint…GO TO THE DOCTOR!!! A simple bloodtest can determine quite a bit in terms of what may be wrong, they will even be able to determine his T3, T4, and TSH levels. I’ve had it done myself, just because I have free access to it.

If something is wrong with you, wouldn’t you want to know?

I just wanted to point something out:

Chris Shugart wrote:
I’m mostly just thinking out loud here, but I’m also tempted to say screw it and V-Diet you. Let’s quit fucking around and get out the sledgehammer.

The V-Diet is now a verb, and an ominous sounding one at that! “We’re going to V-Diet you!” I’m just kidding; you’ll do fine. I’ve been doing a half-assed version of it, i.e., I’ll have some meat or cheese as a snack, and it still works.

And even the half-assed version I’m doing has changed my food preferences. I actually want to eat vegetables and I’m not a big veggie fan. I don’t know you personally but I’m excited for you. The V-Diet really is a kind of exorcism.

I’m not sure why people say the V-Diet is hard, I’d say they are just weak. I found the first few days were pretty easy as you are motivated, the last few days of the first week I startd looking for a bit of variety by mixing shake flavours, adding ice with a blender and so on. By middle of the second week I was thinking this was a cake walk, plus you’ve got that feeling of losing weight and feeling good. By the third week it was just routine and the time was flying by.

Good tasting shakes help A LOT. I had nice shakes at the beginning with Redbak then ran out and a delivery went missing and used some REALLY GROSS stuff, that was a bit hard but still by that point food was function over form. Then I got the ON stuff and it was smooth sailing. People rave about Biotest so I reckon Novagreg will have a very easy time of it :slight_smile:

Hey Greg! Do you want to do the V-Diet or do you want to try some carb cycling or even Precision Nutrition?

What do you think?

Whatever happens next I am sure any change is something to look forward to.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

Hey Greg! Do you want to do the V-Diet or do you want to try some carb cycling or even Precision Nutrition?

What do you think?

Whatever happens next I am sure any change is something to look forward to.[/quote]

Hey there,
I’m on board with the V-Diet 100%. Part of me wishes I would have gotten to do it three months ago, but starting Monday, I’ll get that opportunity.

Hello im also 6ft 1 you SURE about your weight ???
Im not tearing you down or anything but i look nothing like that or the other guy who says you look nothing like him either…
Whatever the cause of your really slow delay in spurring on fat loss, it more likely seems to do with your psyiological make up maybe invest in your health get yourself checked out.

I commend you on taking part in the Clinic but i would advise you NOT to respond to every single detractor that posts something, its a free thread open to all and as TC said
“When some people hate you, you know your doing something right”

So stick with it the V-Diet wrecking ball is swinging, if there is something up that will highlight it REALLY fast as fat should strip off you.
Wish you the best of luck for the next month i might add you to the clinics i watch so far Neya ( would reccomend all to watch) and Gus are the only 2 i watch.
Good luck man and i hope you go see a doctor !

[quote]Corkonian wrote:
Hello im also 6ft 1 you SURE about your weight ???
Im not tearing you down or anything but i look nothing like that or the other guy who says you look nothing like him either…
Whatever the cause of your really slow delay in spurring on fat loss, it more likely seems to do with your psyiological make up maybe invest in your health get yourself checked out.

I commend you on taking part in the Clinic but i would advise you NOT to respond to every single detractor that posts something, its a free thread open to all and as TC said
“When some people hate you, you know your doing something right”

So stick with it the V-Diet wrecking ball is swinging, if there is something up that will highlight it REALLY fast as fat should strip off you.
Wish you the best of luck for the next month i might add you to the clinics i watch so far Neya ( would reccomend all to watch) and Gus are the only 2 i watch.
Good luck man and i hope you go see a doctor !
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Thanks Bro, I appreciate the support. I did go to the doctor recently, and my metabolism is fine, nothing out of the ordinary.

The last shitty “before and after” pics you’ll see of Greg.

Hey, I lifted this off Crew’s Physique Clinic thread.

www.zone-training.net/articles/BBGuide.pdf

It’s a really good posing guide, and has some really good photo tips near the end.

We’re all behind you and we know you will kick some serious ass when it’s all said and done!

Thanks Kelly,
I won’t let you guys, the coaches, and most importantly, I will not let myself down.

Damn straight!

NovaGreg,

I posted something similar on Gus’ thread. When I was in the military(USAF '93-'97), they used and may still use a method for determining bf% using height/weight/neck/belly measurements. The best info I could find is that some AF researchers developed a calculation that was a best fit to test subjects that had their bf% tested in some standardized way.

Frankly, it is at best a serious SWAG(scientific wild-assed guess) and fairly variable based on the measurements though it does take three measures each in the neck and belly and averages them before doing the calculation. I say all of that because I want everyone to understand that I understand the limitations.

I have a DOS program that runs the calculation based on these input parameters. So, for grins, I ran your numbers. Your first measurements were on

1/7/2008

Height:73.00"
Weight:260lbs
Neck :17.125" rounded up to 17.13
Belly :45.00"

Total BM:260
Fat BM: 76
Lean BM:184

%BF: 29.27%

Your last measurements were on

3/9/2008

Height:73.00"
Weight:236lbs
Neck :17.00"
Belly :39.50"

Total BM:236
Fat BM: 53
Lean BM:183

%BF: 22.31%

The program returned a bf% and I multiplied this against the weight to generate the LBM, rounded to the next pound and subtracted from the total mass to get the fat mass.

The same two observations apply here. First, the bf% numbers seemed to pass the BS test and seemed reasonable. Second, these numbers show only a negligible drop in LBM while dropping 7% bf.

Dan

[quote]RockCrusher wrote:
NovaGreg,

I posted something similar on Gus’ thread. When I was in the military(USAF '93-'97), they used and may still use a method for determining bf% using height/weight/neck/belly measurements. The best info I could find is that some AF researchers developed a calculation that was a best fit to test subjects that had their bf% tested in some standardized way.

Frankly, it is at best a serious SWAG(scientific wild-assed guess) and fairly variable based on the measurements though it does take three measures each in the neck and belly and averages them before doing the calculation. I say all of that because I want everyone to understand that I understand the limitations.

I have a DOS program that runs the calculation based on these input parameters. So, for grins, I ran your numbers. Your first measurements were on

1/7/2008

Height:73.00"
Weight:260lbs
Neck :17.125" rounded up to 17.13
Belly :45.00"

Total BM:260
Fat BM: 76
Lean BM:184

%BF: 29.27%

Your last measurements were on

3/9/2008

Height:73.00"
Weight:236lbs
Neck :17.00"
Belly :39.50"

Total BM:236
Fat BM: 53
Lean BM:183

%BF: 22.31%

The program returned a bf% and I multiplied this against the weight to generate the LBM, rounded to the next pound and subtracted from the total mass to get the fat mass.

The same two observations apply here. First, the bf% numbers seemed to pass the BS test and seemed reasonable. Second, these numbers show only a negligible drop in LBM while dropping 7% bf.

Dan[/quote]

Dan,
Thanks so much dude. For my tape measurements, I use Myotape, which is very accurate. I posted on my thread that I’m am starting to wonder if my scale that I’ve been relying on is off, and that I actually started at a heavier weight than 266. I’ll be weighing myself on Friday on the gym scale, so when I find out and take measurements, perhaps you can let me know what the program says?