[quote]lordstorm88 wrote:
Your Clean path on the 100kg looked very very good mate!
really? I thought I should have stayed a bit more over the bar during the 1st to 2nd pull period, but thats not hugely important. The problem was not getting under the bar fast.
Theres NO REASON why you SHOULDN’T be able to do 100kg! You hang on to the pull well, arms are straight but I think your hanging on to the bar too long with your arms, after the 2nd pull JUST WHIP YOUR ARMS UNDER THE BAR. Yoru still pulling on with your arms after the shrug and they are LOADED and you can’t whip them through. The bar is plenty high to recieve a PC let alone a full Clean!
I know. I actually think if I went for a PC in my mind then I would have gotten it. This is what annoys me, that I can PC so so close to my technique max but I can’t even clean that! Ill try whipping my arms more. I’ve never tried maxing out on hang cleans. I’ve done 90kgs hang power clean and that was actually over a year ago when I still had minimal Olympic weightlifting training. (though my strength on hte front squat was probably higher than now). One thing about hang lifts is that I can get my back in to a more tight position that I can’t get in the full lifts yet due to not enough stretching I guess. So that helps with the hang lifts. Anyway next time I go ill think about whipping my arms faster. Coach told me to do that with the cleans. Ill try it with the snatches. I wish I’d gotten a video of the snatches on saturday cause I thought some were really good(aside from the bar going a bit forwards)
Get a video of 90 and 95. I think it’s just more practice to ingrain the technique a bit more as that is a big big pull. Do some hang Cleans and see how far much you can lift.
Koing
Thats the thing, I don’t consider it a big pull. If I can power clean it it should always be a doable clean. Maybe hard, but definitely possible. I should miss them like… once every 10 or 20 tries. A normal clean max compared to a 100kg pc should be 115kg or so. 92kgs is 80%. I should be cleaning that for a double or triple.
Anyway I really appreciate the advice. And since I barely get any coaching lately I really wish I could train with you guys.
I get comments from guys from youtube that I shouldn’t do it…but for me it’s all mental and I pull much faster and more aggressively when I scream the bar off the floor. Sure I lose thoariac pressure but I breath again and I get up. It comes natural and happens when I lift big weigths.
True. I’ve found screaming though while you lose thoracic pressure, help keep your abs tight. Try screaming and hold your abs and you’ll see the louder you scream the more they’ll tighten. I sometimes scream too and it definitely gets me more aggressive too. But I only do it whenever it comes naturally. I’ve found doing it on purpose makes my technique worse sometimes but thats probably cause I’m short of a half a dozen years to reach your training experience.[/quote]
IMO you POWER clean too much. I didn’t do POWER lifts for MONTHS AND MONTHS afterwards.
This is the single biggest problem with lifters that aren’t coached from the get go.
It would be VERY VERY HARD to break such a ‘natural’ movement to you now. I would recommend NOT DOING ANY POWER LIFTS and then ONLY DOING FULL LIFTS. This will help you out.
You stay over the bar enough, it’s fine mate. The bar path is spot on, no issues.
The issues is the lack of full lifts. If you look at through your training I am willing to bet you do A LOT of power lifts right? Well quit that and you can learn to full lift.
With a 100Kg PC you should be Cleaning at least 115 -120kg imo. You have plenty of bar height and power up, just no speed under the bar due to LACK OF PRACTICE imo.
You can do the power stuff later but your limited by your lack of technique/ training to get under the bar.
Yes max out hang cleans and see what you get. This will be VERY VERY TELLING mate. Get a video.
I’ve been very fortunate in that I’ve always had a coach and never worked on my own, so I didn’t learn bad habits or if they are they are minor.
Koing
lol
