No Muscle Definition

i have been working out for about half a year and i have yet to see any muscle definition in my arms, shoulder, chest and back. what do i need to do get that nice v shape every body is trying to get?

[quote]lifelongbread wrote:
i have been working out for about half a year and i have yet to see any muscle definition in my arms, shoulder, chest and back. what do i need to do get that nice v shape every body is trying to get? [/quote]

If you can’t see any “muscle definition” you need to change your body composition (lower your Bodyfat) and/or increase overall muscle mass.

The “V Shape” is large determined by your genetics (width of shoulder vs width of hip), but you can shape your body by lowering your bodyfat% (making waist smaller) and increasing upper body mass, especially shoulders and Back.

Eat less crap and lift heavier. Throw in some cardio to get the bodyfat down faster.

A GOOD V taper is HARD to get. You need to identify weak spots in back, chest, shoulders, and work on them. You need to lose fat to increase the top:waist ratio.

It’s pretty much that ‘simple’.

Emphasis on eat LESS crap.

i call troll

Have a plastic surgeon remove your bottom ribs.

[quote]Petrichor wrote:
If you can’t see any “muscle definition” you need to change your body composition (lower your Bodyfat) and/or increase overall muscle mass.

The “V Shape” is large determined by your genetics (width of shoulder vs width of hip), but you can shape your body by lowering your bodyfat% (making waist smaller) and increasing upper body mass, especially shoulders and Back.

[/quote]

my shoulders are alot bigger than my waist, so i think i have potential. but im not seeing any distinct changes in my appearance.

You learned the quote function rather quick. you must troll in alot of forums

[quote]eremesu wrote:
you learned the quote function rather quick. you must troll in alot of forums[/quote]

my original forum was pbnation, but i heard about this one and since i enjoy lifting and i want to be huge i came to this one!

I’m watching you

[quote]lifelongbread wrote:
eremesu wrote:
you learned the quote function rather quick. you must troll in alot of forums

my original forum was pbnation, but i heard about this one and since i enjoy lifting and i want to be huge i came to this one![/quote]

Thought it may have been PB & J nation…

His user name does mention bread

hahaha pbnation
paintball

but lifelongbread is my 360 gamer tag. i got it from the random name generator.

[quote]eremesu wrote:
i call troll[/quote]

What is with you people and harassing everybody that posts. Maybe worry more about yourself and gaining weight.

Well, you gota post your workout/diet so people can help, and you gota work out for more then 6 months.

[quote]MtbKid wrote:
Well, you gota post your workout/diet so people can help, and you gota work out for more then 6 months.[/quote]

i go to the gym 5 days a week for about 45 minutes to an hour. i alternate days. day 1 biceps, triceps, and shoulders. and then the next day chest and back. i usually use free weights or the hammer strength machines. and i try to run for about 20-30 minutes 5 to 6 days a week.

my diet includes a bowl of cereal for breakfast.
usually a turkey sandwich or a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with some fruit and a granola bar
and for dinner i usually have one of those healthy microwavable meals.

what am i doing wrong? what am i doing right?
i dont want to be a beast, but i want to have a great looking body! not super big but big enough so that its noticable.
age 16
weight 165 lbs
height 5 foot 8 inches

thanks for the help

OP: Getting large muscles and dropping fat are not easy, and can take time. Within six months, you should have been able to see progress, though not yet anything to brag about. Is this the case?

In addition, I will point out some things you’re doing right:

  1. You have an organized training regimen. It falls short of… optimal… but at least you walk in the gym knowing what to do.

  2. You’re having a protein source during the day (turkey sandwhich). More of this would be good.

  3. You’ve carved out about 5 hours during the week for your workouts. This is a necessary first step of time management. Now all you need to do is fill that time with productive effort.

You’re making a bunch of mistakes too. So many, in fact, I kinda hope you’re a troll. Have you read anything on this site about lifting or eating?

I actually am interested in that question.

To fill in the gaps of what you don’t know, read through the beginner stickies. Go to the top of the page, and click on the banner that says Beginner. This will take you to the beginner forum.

Next, click on Vroom’s thread Are you a beginner II. It has a bunch of good articles indexed, in addition to some common sense information on it’s own. Read Vroom’s thread, and leaf through the articles. Two articles you should read are Dr. Berardi’s Seven Habits of Highly Effective Diets and… I’m actually not sure if it’s there, but there should be a similar article for training.

Read them. Take notes if you have to. That should clear up a great deal of what is going wrong with your current training and diet.

[quote]Otep wrote:
OP: Getting large muscles and dropping fat are not easy, and can take time. Within six months, you should have been able to see progress, though not yet anything to brag about. Is this the case?

In addition, I will point out some things you’re doing right:

  1. You have an organized training regimen. It falls short of… optimal… but at least you walk in the gym knowing what to do.

  2. You’re having a protein source during the day (turkey sandwhich). More of this would be good.

  3. You’ve carved out about 5 hours during the week for your workouts. This is a necessary first step of time management. Now all you need to do is fill that time with productive effort.

You’re making a bunch of mistakes too. So many, in fact, I kinda hope you’re a troll. Have you read anything on this site about lifting or eating?

I actually am interested in that question.

To fill in the gaps of what you don’t know, read through the beginner stickies. Go to the top of the page, and click on the banner that says Beginner. This will take you to the beginner forum.

Next, click on Vroom’s thread Are you a beginner II. It has a bunch of good articles indexed, in addition to some common sense information on it’s own. Read Vroom’s thread, and leaf through the articles. Two articles you should read are Dr. Berardi’s Seven Habits of Highly Effective Diets and… I’m actually not sure if it’s there, but there should be a similar article for training.

Read them. Take notes if you have to. That should clear up a great deal of what is going wrong with your current training and diet.[/quote]

thanks alot!
i realy appreciate the help!
so i should eat more protien? like how much more?

[quote]lifelongbread wrote:

i realy appreciate the help!
so i should eat more protien? like how much more?[/quote]

To fill in the gaps of what you don’t know, read through the beginner stickies. Go to the top of the page, and click on the banner that says Beginner. This will take you to the beginner forum.

Next, click on Vroom’s thread Are you a beginner II. It has a bunch of good articles indexed, in addition to some common sense information on it’s own. Read Vroom’s thread, and leaf through the articles. Two articles you should read are Dr. Berardi’s Seven Habits of Highly Effective Diets and… I’m actually not sure if it’s there, but there should be a similar article for training.

Read them. Take notes if you have to. That should clear up a great deal of what is going wrong with your current training and diet.

Turkey sandwich is not a good protein source if you use lunch meat - at least with the kinds i’ve looked at before in the past you get like 3g of protein per slice. The general recommendation around here is that you need (at least) 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight, (so me being 200lbs eats 200g a day).

You aren’t doing a whole lot right from what I can see, instead of having us point out what you’re doing wrong it’d be easier for you to read the beginner articles like Otep said.

[quote]nowakc wrote:
Turkey sandwich is not a good protein source if you use lunch meat - at least with the kinds i’ve looked at before in the past you get like 3g of protein per slice.[/quote]

It works okay if you use half a package of deli meat.
(why yes, my wife does hate me for it, thanks for asking)