This all coming after I just put a order in! 
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Part of the reason why I, BB is an ever going processs is that we are always trying new stuff. The original protocol works great, but it was somewhat complex and required a lot of product. So we are looking for a simpler one that is just as effective.
Right now I am using 2 Finibars 45 minutes prior to training, 3 scoops of Anaconda and 3 scoops of MAG-10 protein prior and during the workout (3 scoops of each total). With Alpha-GPC 90 minutes prior.
This actually gives me more of the amonia scavenging substances, more casein hydrolysate and more amino acids than the prior protocol. So far I’ve noticed in 1 day what I normally noticed in 5! So the protocol is at least as effective and much less complicated.[/quote]
6 sccops of powder? Damn! I hope the scoops are the size of the Leucine tub, otherwise you’d need a monster blender to churn it around if it’s the size of the Surge Recovery scoop!
I now have a vision where you hit the power button on the blender and powder dust explodes everywehre and covers the kitchen… he he he…
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Part of the reason why I, BB is an ever going processs is that we are always trying new stuff. The original protocol works great, but it was somewhat complex and required a lot of product. So we are looking for a simpler one that is just as effective.
Right now I am using 2 Finibars 45 minutes prior to training, 3 scoops of Anaconda and 3 scoops of MAG-10 protein prior and during the workout (3 scoops of each total). With Alpha-GPC 90 minutes prior.
This actually gives me more of the amonia scavenging substances, more casein hydrolysate and more amino acids than the prior protocol. So far I’ve noticed in 1 day what I normally noticed in 5! So the protocol is at least as effective and much less complicated.[/quote]
Seriously though, if I work out at noon, could you possibly have your lunch at 11am, then the Finibars, Anaconda, and Mag10 say at 11:40, or would it not provide enough time to digest prior to your 12:00 workout?
[quote]Smallfry69 wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Part of the reason why I, BB is an ever going processs is that we are always trying new stuff. The original protocol works great, but it was somewhat complex and required a lot of product. So we are looking for a simpler one that is just as effective.
Right now I am using 2 Finibars 45 minutes prior to training, 3 scoops of Anaconda and 3 scoops of MAG-10 protein prior and during the workout (3 scoops of each total). With Alpha-GPC 90 minutes prior.
This actually gives me more of the amonia scavenging substances, more casein hydrolysate and more amino acids than the prior protocol. So far I’ve noticed in 1 day what I normally noticed in 5! So the protocol is at least as effective and much less complicated.
Seriously though, if I work out at noon, could you possibly have your lunch at 11am, then the Finibars, Anaconda, and Mag10 say at 11:40, or would it not provide enough time to digest prior to your 12:00 workout?[/quote]
Allow for at least 2 hours between the last meal and the start of the protocol.
[quote]esh2424 wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
acelement wrote:
Ok Thibs, I know you said you can’t duplicate it w/o Anaconda and MAG-10, but this information is useless to 99% of your readers if we can’t even buy those products yet. You provided an old protocol to hold us over until the new products came out…can you provide a “close-enough” protocol for this new system with existing products to hold us over until these products are released?
No I can’t. Wish I could, but it’s not possible.
You’re teasing us Coach. At this point Anaconda sounds like it’s ingredients include every supplement ever made.[/quote]
Hot Stuff?
[quote]conorh wrote:
esh2424 wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
acelement wrote:
Ok Thibs, I know you said you can’t duplicate it w/o Anaconda and MAG-10, but this information is useless to 99% of your readers if we can’t even buy those products yet. You provided an old protocol to hold us over until the new products came out…can you provide a “close-enough” protocol for this new system with existing products to hold us over until these products are released?
No I can’t. Wish I could, but it’s not possible.
You’re teasing us Coach. At this point Anaconda sounds like it’s ingredients include every supplement ever made.
Hot Stuff?[/quote]
Far from it. I am, of course aware of the old Hot Stuff debacle. Anaconda and MAG-10 don’t have that many different ingredients, only those that actually work for its purpose and only in doses high enough to work. For example one of the ingredient, one of the most important one, is present at 6x the minimal effective dose. Hot Stuff was full of different ingredients, but none present in quantities sufficient to cause an actual effect.
Have there been any negative effects so far?
[quote]esh2424 wrote:
Have there been any negative effects so far?[/quote]
I now have three arms.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
esh2424 wrote:
Have there been any negative effects so far?
I now have three arms. [/quote]
LOL
i am all for simplification the original protocol seemed a little ridiculous. To be honest other than the basics i have never really been much for supplement hype. But i will say my seriously simplified protocol works well for me which is one “heavy” serving of Surge Workout Fuel about 30 minutes out. Then one heavy serving of Surge Recovery taken throuout the workout. each heavy serving is just a regular serving with an extra scoop. I also add my creatine to my Surge Recovery. Surge Workout Fuel really surprised me in a good way…it works as advertised you will notice a difference the first time you take it.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
esh2424 wrote:
Have there been any negative effects so far?
I now have three arms. [/quote]
Yeah, but I bet they’re all huge -lol
S
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
esh2424 wrote:
Have there been any negative effects so far?
I now have three arms. [/quote]
Ahh, so it has the same effect as extenze advertises. I think that’s worth it right there.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
conorh wrote:
esh2424 wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
acelement wrote:
Ok Thibs, I know you said you can’t duplicate it w/o Anaconda and MAG-10, but this information is useless to 99% of your readers if we can’t even buy those products yet. You provided an old protocol to hold us over until the new products came out…can you provide a “close-enough” protocol for this new system with existing products to hold us over until these products are released?
No I can’t. Wish I could, but it’s not possible.
You’re teasing us Coach. At this point Anaconda sounds like it’s ingredients include every supplement ever made.
Hot Stuff?
Far from it. I am, of course aware of the old Hot Stuff debacle. Anaconda and MAG-10 don’t have that many different ingredients, only those that actually work for its purpose and only in doses high enough to work. For example one of the ingredient, one of the most important one, is present at 6x the minimal effective dose. Hot Stuff was full of different ingredients, but none present in quantities sufficient to cause an actual effect.[/quote]
Yeah, I was just clowning on that fella’s post a little bit.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
esh2424 wrote:
Have there been any negative effects so far?
I now have three arms.
Yeah, but I bet they’re all huge -lol
S
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and his hair must be longer than ever.
I want to be able to workout 3 times a day
[quote]optheta wrote:
I want to be able to workout 3 times a day :([/quote]
I actually worked out 4 times yesterday.
What I am doing is training following this split:
DAY 1 - pushing
DAY 2 - pulling
DAY 3 - legs
I am training 1 lift per session, 3 sessions per day.
DAY 1
1.1 Bench press
1.2 Military press
1.3 Close-grip bench or dips
DAY 2
1.1 pull-ups
1.2 barbell row
1.3 upright row
DAY 3
1.1 back squat
1.2 leg press
1.3 front squat
BTW I do have a small gym in my garage so it makes it easier.
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Each workout lasts around 30 minutes and consists of doing 8 sets of 3 reps with the maximum weight I can accelerate (around 85%) then drop down by 20-40lbs (depending on the lift) and perform 5 sets of 5 reps.
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I ramp up the weight relatively rapidly until I reach the max force weight, because I’m neurally efficient I don’t need that many ramp up sets
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I train two competitive bodybuilders at the moment, and to keep them going as the diet and preparation take its toll I will sometimes train with either one of them when they are doing something that wont interfere with my main workouts (which is why I trained 4 times yesterday… I did biceps with one of the guys on my pulling day).
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I have 2 scoops of Anaconda and 2 scoops of MAG-10 for the first session (half before, half during) and 2 scoops of Anaconda with 1 scoop of MAG-10 for the other sessions.
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I take 2 FINiBARs 30 min. prior to the first workout and 1 for the 2 other workouts.
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The Anaconda and MAG-10 are mixed in a big jug with 2000 ml of water (CRUCIAL! Fluids are KEY for growth, I can’t overemphasize that.)
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I have 2 scoops of whey protein 15 minutes after my workouts
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I use 1200mg of Alpha-GPC 60-90 minutes prior to the first workout
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The other supplements I’m using are:
- vitamin D3 20 000IU
- Flameout 4 caps
- FA3 4 caps
- Magnesium (after my last session and before bed)
- Zinc (morning and lunch time)
- Curcumin 500, 8 caps
- My diet is not super strict, but I normally have 3 solid meals a day (trust me, with the 3 peri-workout protocols you wouldn’t want to eat more than 3 times either!) which are mostly:
- Yogurt, nuts and a small portion of meat in the morning
- Chicken and rice at lunch
- Red meat and green veggies in the evening
- I wake up at 5:30 and go to bed at 9:30 (unless there is a hockey game on TV)
[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
esh2424 wrote:
Have there been any negative effects so far?
I now have three arms.
Yeah, but I bet they’re all huge -lol
S
and his hair must be longer than ever.[/quote]
Trust me, you don’t wanna see me with long hair… Krusty the Klown anybody?!
CT 20 000iu of vitamin d3!!!..no doubt we live in Quebec…hihihihi…my wife is freaking out cause i m taking 5000iu per day…
Thibs, I know when you go big…you go big. The 20,000IU of Vite D? Is that a typo?
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
- and go to bed at 9:30 (unless there is a hockey game on TV)[/quote]
Just in case anyone doubted he was a full blooded Canadian -lol
S